the HIGH PLACE in christ...................

[LucySmith]

There are many denominations and churches but they are at the bottom of the mountain.

Matt 17:1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain apart.
2 And was transfigured before them: and His face did shine as the sun, and His raiment was white as the light.

Only Yeshua can take us to this next level.
It is a high place separate from the normal occurrences of life.

NOTICE
only 3 out from 12 had the invitation to climb to the mountain tops to SEE a wonder of a human man displayed as a LIGHT BEING.
not too many make this mountain top experience a reality in their lives.
yet
it was the very purpose of His advent.
MAN AND GOD - CO JOINED... God in man and man in God = here.

HEAVEN is within

[LucySmith]

true worship in high places....

is not about a place;
it is not about only certain things;
it is not about certain appointed times;
it is not about religious activities, such as Sunday “church services.”

It is about LIFE, everyday life, everywhere, in all matters.

Micah says,

“He has showed you, O man, what is good.
And what does the Lord require of you, but to love mercy, to do justly, and to walk humbly with your God” (Micah 6:8).

ITS ABOUT LIFE MATTERS.
ITS ABOUT L.I.F.E. here = God in man = here.

how to be removed from vanity and into ETERNAL - here.
how to shed humanness and convert into divineness. - here.

Yeshua showed the impossible to be possible here..... on the Mt of transformation. HE DISPLAYED WHAT WE ALL SHOULD BE LIKE------------------------------------- HERE.

HOW MANY PEOPLE FROM ANCIENT TIMES TILL TODAY - DO YOU SEE AS THE IMAGE OF THE CHRIST MINISTRY......millions, thousands, hundreds, a few or none?
be truthful - ask the questions WHY don't we see divine ministries working ?

because most dwell at the bottom of the mountain - too afraid TO COME UP HITHER.....

BTW
A strange thing is happening to THE EKKLESIA.
We are losing everything we once held dear in our doctrine.
The Lord, instead of building us up into some sort of super saint is reducing us down – through the power of the all consuming cross – to JUST having faith

ASK
do you have this faith
PRAY....to have the SAME faith as Yeshua - the same mighty essence as He had.....
why?
because these overcoming saints have been transferred from the lion’s mouth to the King’s throne.

its all about CHANGE - CONVERTED - INTO A NEW WAY OF THINKING.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LNHBMFCzznE

TO BE THE SAME IMAGE AS YESHUA - a disciple has to think in the same way.
you cannot remain churched religious because you are like all carnal minded dead people.....the keys to the kingdom has been lost by the church system.

the 'great falling away' began at the beginning - as THE FOUNDATIONS WERE LOST.
THE FOUNDATIONS OF LEARNING HOW TO BECOME GOD IN MAN. amen

[LucySmith]

what is ''come up hither''?

PROPHETIC WORD



“ The Deeper Realm is where there is the fullness of life to the soul.
[]It is where natural thinking does not control the life.
[/b]It is where the mind is translated into His mind.
It is where the mind is not subject to the human Adamic control but led by Light.

You cannot experience thoughts of destruction, defeat, alarm, despair, fear, hopelessness, death, disappointment and agitation.
Instability will not exist; you will not be soon shaken.
There will be no fluctuation of moods and emotions.
You will still experience emotion but it will be pure.

Indecision will not exist.
Every thought and contemplation will be born from Glory and Life.
Confidence will be renewed.
There will be a constant feeling of brokenness, humility, peace and joy.

Appetites will change.
Things that satisfy will change.
You will no longer be excited by things, which originate from the carnal kingdom, in fact they will be so pathetic you will laugh at them.

Intimidation by the so called intellectual will have no effect on you as you become aware of all Truth which transcends man’s understanding.

The limits of the natural man’s understanding is the beginning of yours, into depths which reach into the very secret of light, sound, vision, and the vaults of the heavens.

You will find that your ability to withstand personal persecution increases.

You will feel that you have moved from a house of straw to an impregnable fortress.
You will feel strength where once you were weak.

Whilst others are seeking for cures, remedies and healings, your tabernacle doors will be bursting with songs of praise.

Whilst earthly lights are fading, the light through the veil in your sanctuary will burst forth and it will turn eyes to behold its wonder and splendour.
You will speak and command attention.
You will speak forth wisdom as bread to the hungry. You will know Me and reflect Me says the Lord of Hosts even Jesus”.



ALL GLORY TO JESUS

[LucySmith]

the WORD... WHAT OR WHO IS 'THE WORD'

Yeshua of Nazareth, the Light of the world,
the True Word of God says:

"You search the scriptures (the bible), for in them you think you have eternal life; and these are they which testify of me.
But you are not willing to come to Me that you may have life."
Matt. 23:8-12



“So Yeshua answered them and said, “My teaching is not mine, but His who sent Me.”
(John 7:16)



“He who rejects Me and does not receive My sayings, has one who judges him; the word I spoke is what will judge him at the last day.”
(John 12:48)



“So Yeshua was saying to those Jews who had believed Him, “If you continue in My word (NOT 'the bible' or 'the scripture'), then you are truly disciples of mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free.”
(John 8:31-32)

millions of people have gotten to the sad place of substituting 'the bible' for the Light of the world.

millions of people go to the bible but ONLY THE DISCIPLES - GO TO THE WORD......

FACE THE TRUTH and honour Yeshua.
i.n.s.p.i.r.a.t.i.o.n.
Inspiration means that "the Holy Spirit of God superintended the human writers in the production of scripture so that what they wrote was precisely what God wanted written."
yes/no/maybe?

This principle states that
"the human authors of scripture wrote precisely what God wanted written".

however the real facts are.....
It must be acknowledged that this belief is not put forth by Yeshua, but by Paul alone.
As such, the belief should be suspect, and if we find contradictions in the bible, this belief ought to be rejected, for a perfect, all knowing being would not contradict Himself.

*facing the truth is...
a person who is not looking to defend the bible will find many contradictions contained therein.

who is wrong?
face it and adjust to it~~~~because if you don't ye remain a valley dweller and never reach the heights of perfecting.....

[LucySmith]

its rather interesting to see ''christian excuses'' when faced with the facts....

indoctrination works.

some edification of a disciple versus a Christian.

http://www.joshuafamilies.info/conversations.html

Below are some conversations that I have had with religious people - christians and biblians - over the years. They are not verbatum 'recordings', but they are representative of the content of those conversations and accurately represent majority christian/biblian thinking.

The Bible Discussion - A discussion about the christian belief that the bible is the "Word of God" to mankind and why that belief is wrong.

The Christianity Discussion - A discussion about christianity and why it does not represent the person or teachings of Jesus of Nazareth.

A "Church" Discussion, Version A - A discussion with a christian who defends his "church" against Jesus' teachings.

A Conversation with Sally, a faithful church-goer - A typical conversation with a 'church-going' christian.

YESHUA is the word of God.

[LucySmith]

edification kenneth visscher

. I stand holding forth the candlestick of the Laodicea church to those who would overcome and be illuminated by the light of this candle.
My spirit has moved until now to separate each of you fully unto myself so that my image can be firmly created new upon you and for you to be able to mirror perfectly my person within your own lives.
The works of faith you have done up until this time have been created by me to perfect that which concerns your own salvation and the salvation of those whom you care for as family and friends.
Yet from the midst of all others, even those that have been the closest to you in your lives upon the earth I have worked to separate you and to seclude you, even unto myself.
As the Father and I are one, so have I worked to make you one. To do this I had to bring hard circumstances into your lives and judgments whereby you would come apart unto me and you would learn by these testings to fix your gaze steadfastly upon me alone, the author and the finisher of your faith.

[LucySmith]

to ''come up hither'' is [rev 4]

To come out from the absurdity of all forms of religions men have devised from the ancient past to modern day dogmas that kill.
So many teachers - so little Christlikeness abounds.
Religious men locked and loaded into their various isms still die IN SIN.

The power to only FOLLOW ME is not given to all.
Just the FEW who find eternal life.
Questions to ask is
Why hasn't millions of souls found eternal life under the law of moses?
Why hasn't millions of souls found this illusive eternal life under saul/paul teaching?
If you believe these 2 men, and follow hard after them WHY ARENT U AN ETERNAL BEING- why do you still die IN sin?

Can you answer this truthfully?

Why do you advise others to fall into the same traps as you have fallen into - namely Christless beliefs

The reason none have the public ministry of the Saviour for 2000yrs is because Christianity is not of the Saviour.

Yes, Christianity is for the masses NOT FOR HIS SAINTS... who come up hither....

what does this mean in real life~~~~

The Matrix dweller of Pauline Christianity remains ignorant, IN sin.
how?
they fail the FAITH WALK TESTS and remain locked into carnal minded thinking of ''seeing is believing''
They have not applied the divine eye salve so remain blinded, wretched, miserable - under the divisive Pauline church system.

where did it all go pear-shaped?

''the seeing is believing'' formed UNBELIEF within and Yeshua cannot work successfully with UNBELIEVERS.
UNBELIEF STOPS faith FROM FORMING WITHIN AND WITHOUT FAITH....well... die in sin is to be expected.~~~

the trapped, the captive, still maintains their belief is the truth.
that is deception in its highest form.

so, to come up hither is a ascension into the faith walk, and to use the right side of our mind not the left hand side.
[remember the goats are always on the LH side, this is why you never call your children kids= baby goats. ['''my kids''', a most popular phrase of unbeknown condemnation]
THE NEW WAY OF THINKING, reproduces a new way of walk BY FAITH OF THE SON OF GOD.

OFCOURSE this walk is outside the religious box, and not for the fainthearted.
the switched over of brain lobes is the answer to all problems [ putting it in modern terms]


the left hand thinking needs to be deleted completely.
THIS IS A WITNESS TO CHAOS AND DIVISIONAL CHRISTIANITY IN ALL OF ITS CONFUSION.

IN VANITY all the consciousness thinking is done with the LHS of the brain.
in divine realm conversion is RHS THINKING.

FAITH WALKING, FAITHIN TALKING IS RHS thinking.

[LucySmith]

not thinking for yourself.... but programmed to think by others...[ as strangers]

leads to death.
''let the dead bury the dead''
blind guides......trap others into a death trap of victimization.

the programme of VANITY needs to be fully D.E.L.E.T.E.D. from human consciousness.
vanity can be described as a VIRTUAL REALITY.... programmed to deceive and destroy the children of God.

the MINDSET OF YESHUA WAS OUTSIDE OF VANITY - He continually said '' I do the will of My Father''.
no other person ever achieved this yet - out there in religious land, we are continually bombarded with MISFITS who tell us all how to think~~~~~

to think correctly is to THINK LIKE YESHUA AND NO ONE ELSE.
Yeshua refused to be bombarded with carnal vain thinking, that is sent as ''thought waves'' from serpentine connections.
a game is being played on humanity and most all humanity succumbs to this game.

ask
why are some countries so poor and others so rich in material wealth?
why is the church Inc, so wealthy, yet fails to give in abundance to the poorer countries. [ yes token handouts are given only]
its all to do with the programme of imbalance and disharmony.... [divide and conquer]

what causes the poor to be poor? = unbalanced thinking.
what causes the rich to be rich? = unbalanced thinking.
both stemming from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. [ opposites]

the PAULINE system, chose to gather wealth, and pay the hirelings and then gave its clergy titles so their system is 1 of imbalanced religious thinking mostly based on Greek gnosis

[Eliyah]

leads to death.
''let the dead bury the dead''
blind guides......trap others into a death trap of victimization.

the programme of VANITY needs to be fully D.E.L.E.T.E.D. from human consciousness.
vanity can be described as a VIRTUAL REALITY.... programmed to deceive and destroy the children of God.

the MINDSET OF YESHUA WAS OUTSIDE OF VANITY - He continually said '' I do the will of My Father''.
no other person ever achieved this yet - out there in religious land, we are continually bombarded with MISFITS who tell us all how to think~~~~~

to think correctly is to THINK LIKE YESHUA AND NO ONE ELSE.
Yeshua refused to be bombarded with carnal vain thinking, that is sent as ''thought waves'' from serpentine connections.
a game is being played on humanity and most all humanity succumbs to this game.

ask
why are some countries so poor and others so rich in material wealth?
why is the church Inc, so wealthy, yet fails to give in abundance to the poorer countries. [ yes token handouts are given only]
its all to do with the programme of imbalance and disharmony.... [divide and conquer]

what causes the poor to be poor? = unbalanced thinking.
what causes the rich to be rich? = unbalanced thinking.
both stemming from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. [ opposites]

the PAULINE system, chose to gather wealth, and pay the hirelings and then gave its clergy titles so their system is 1 of imbalanced religious thinking mostly based on Greek gnosis

both stemming from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. [ opposites]

Lucy, your own words again betray you, first you quote from the O.T. and next you will condemn it.

Is the above quote NOT in the book of GENESIS??

You also said:

the PAULINE system, chose to gather wealth,

Really? Where did the apostle Paul gather wealth to himself????

Lucy-fer-her speaking like the serpent again, huh?

PS Oh, don't forget, you don't read my posts huh?

[LucySmith]

the unbelief within the pauline system kills the pews...

here is one example...
There is no reason for saul/Paul going around condoning false worship by giving their idols a different name or revealing their idols to them in a different way!
And that is exactly what has been done in Acts 17:22-24.

if you believe a man, who wears this character within - it is NOT the kingdom of heaven manifesting.
when you sit at the feet of such a person, and soak in his teaching, you die.
if you sit at the feet of this CHARACTER - YOU BECOME LIKE THIS CHARACTER... and wear the same human trait - you die IN sin.

ofcourse those who deny this fact, offer up nothing that is acceptable, on how to walk by faith and be taught by Yeshua THE DIVINE TEACHER - TO LIVE HERE abundantly.

ofcourse if you sit at the feet of saul/paul you are automatically a liar and liars never enter the kingdom of heaven
you see the reality is TO PARTAKE THE SINS OF THOSE TO WHOM YE ADMIRE AND REVERE AND listen too.....[most people don't understand this soul tie]
here is an outstanding example....of saul/paul telling others...


You Can Trust Me, I’m Not Lying”
One very interesting nugget about Paul is that he has to convince his audience that he is not a liar.
And as a matter of truth, Paul had to tell people on many occasions that he was not lying.
so~~After he relates his conversion story~[ 3 different ways] in his letter to the Galatians, completely different from the stories of his conversion throughout Acts, he says

“the things which I write to you, see, before the Mighty One, I do not lie” (Gal. 1:20).
And again in 2 Cor. 11:5, and verse 31.
And again in 1 Tim. 2:7.

But interestingly enough, saul/Paul expects people not to believe that he is lying in all of these passages, even though he stated in Romans 3:7 that he does lie sometimes to exalt the truth of the Almighty.

this testimony is NOT ONE OF ASCENSION into the come up hither realm.... ofcourse if you chose to believe a stranger, you too, will never ascend into the kingdom realm.

[Eliyah]

here is one example...
There is no reason for saul/Paul going around condoning false worship by giving their idols a different name or revealing their idols to them in a different way!
And that is exactly what has been done in Acts 17:22-24.

if you believe a man, who wears this character within - it is NOT the kingdom of heaven manifesting.
when you sit at the feet of such a person, and soak in his teaching, you die.
if you sit at the feet of this CHARACTER - YOU BECOME LIKE THIS CHARACTER... and wear the same human trait - you die IN sin.

ofcourse those who deny this fact, offer up nothing that is acceptable, on how to walk by faith and be taught by Yeshua THE DIVINE TEACHER - TO LIVE HERE abundantly.

Really?

Let's quote Luke here in Acts:For as I passed by, and beheld your devotions, I found an altar with this inscription, TO THE UNKNOWN GOD. Whom therefore ye ignorantly worship, him declare I unto you. God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands;

Lucy,

Who is the LORD OF HEAVEN AND EARTH?? Is it NOT Yahweh?? Who is the unknown Elohim?

Now, Lucy, suppose you tell the people on this forum, who is the person YOU call "father" and what is his name??

[Eliyah]

Lucy,

Messiah spoke of deceivers like YOU here below:

For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Messiah; and shall deceive many. Matthew 24:5; Mark 13:6; Luke 21:8.

Are you not coming in the name of Messiah, even speaking ABOUT Him as Messiah, yet rejecting His red words and NOT obeying them?????

[Eliyah]

Lucy,

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:31.

Lucy,

Will YOU believe and obey Messiah's red words above???

[Eliyah]

Lucy,

What does it profit YOU to speak ABOUT Messiah, and do NOT obey and do HIS WORDS????

[Eliyah]

Lucy,

And he said unto him, If they hear not Moses and the prophets, neither will they be persuaded, though one rose from the dead. Luke 16:31.

Lucy thinks, that HER OWN WORDS ABOUT Messiah, will save her and others, without believing, obeying, and doing Messiah's red words, as Messiah said to do. Lucy is using a deception as Messiah said people like her would do, she is fooling herself and others into a false salvation.

Lucy,

Will YOU believe and obey Messiah's red words above???