so~~ WHAT is N.O.R.M.A.L.? - Yeshua was NOT ''normal''.

[LucySmith]

to have knowledge without character................................

this really is the core problems within churchdom.
this saul/paul reflection is installed within the clery of his ex Pharisee ancient system.
the ugly fruits are all there too see, for those who are not welded onto churchianity called ''christian'' without the CHRIST VERB working for them
satan and his henchmen would love to have people remain in the dark over this 1st anti-Christ experiment.

to have knowledge without character...... is the fruits of the pews.
the ugly world of churchdom.
ugly clergy make ugly pews.... all stems from the ugly character of the spy saul/paul..... the same spirit still lingers within the halls of satan.


a snapshot of the Pauline churches.
http://see_the_truth.webs.com/inquisition.html

A History of Christian Torture
Mass Murder and
Destruction of Human Life
"The Christian resolve to find the world evil and ugly, has made the world evil and ugly."
- Friedrich Nietzsche

this whole ugly history is considered ''normal'' by the pews.
no one questions such a system as they sit there like dummies, in religious sewerage

[Eliyah]

this really is the core problems within churchdom.
this saul/paul reflection is installed within the clery of his ex Pharisee ancient system.
the ugly fruits are all there too see, for those who are not welded onto churchianity called ''christian'' without the CHRIST VERB working for them
satan and his henchmen would love to have people remain in the dark over this 1st anti-Christ experiment.

to have knowledge without character...... is the fruits of the pews.
the ugly world of churchdom.
ugly clergy make ugly pews.... all stems from the ugly character of the spy saul/paul..... the same spirit still lingers within the halls of satan.


a snapshot of the Pauline churches.
http://see_the_truth.webs.com/inquisition.html



this whole ugly history is considered ''normal'' by the pews.
no one questions such a system as they sit there like dummies, in religious sewerage

Lucy, what makes your Yeshua that YOU promote on this forum any different?

Or, can't you see and understand, that sooner or later, satan's henchmen will come for you too?

Because satan don't care WHICH Yeshua is promoted, because sooner or later, all of us are going to be brought up before the councils for His name sake Matt.24:9.

[Eliyah]

Do you really think I don't know what you are doing?

Lucy,

Do you really think I don't know what your really doing? You speak out of both sides of your mouth, you criticize the Jesus=Yeshua of churchanity including Paul, and then, you turn around and promote a YESHUA to people on this forum.

I know what you do Lucy. You really think you can hide this from me?

[LucySmith]

the ''normal'' church view of the 13th apostle

''the great apostle paul'' - they cry.
never knowing the truth.....
Paul was allowed to do what he did because he is the antichrist.
He is the one who presents the whole world with the "anti:" the choice between LIFE and DEATH.


the '''ex'''' Pharisee running true to Pharisee form LOCKED UP the house of knowledge.......as proven by 2000yrs of failure to birth anyone out as a true and anointed Minister in the ways of Yeshua.
the diehards need to stop drinking their morning denial juices.

I suppose the diehards will be judged as ''antichrist'' too.....by agreeing with the ''my gospel'' of paul.
[now that is a worry]
the satanic mindset is tattoo-ed on like a mark of evil- and only THE SAVIOUR AND HIS GOSPEL can break off such strongholds of indoctrination

[Eliyah]

Where did Paul claim he was a 13th apostle?

''the great apostle paul'' - they cry.
never knowing the truth.....
Paul was allowed to do what he did because he is the antichrist.
He is the one who presents the whole world with the "anti:" the choice between LIFE and DEATH.


the '''ex'''' Pharisee running true to Pharisee form LOCKED UP the house of knowledge.......as proven by 2000yrs of failure to birth anyone out as a true and anointed Minister in the ways of Yeshua.
the diehards need to stop drinking their morning denial juices.

I suppose the diehards will be judged as ''antichrist'' too.....by agreeing with the ''my gospel'' of paul.
[now that is a worry]

Lucy,

Where did Paul claim he was a 13th apostle? Please, show everyone on this forum, where Paul wrote, that he was the 13th apostle as YOU say?????????????????

[Eliyah]

This 13th apostle is your or your STRANGERS words, not Paul's written words.

[LucySmith]

the failure of the system is because....STRANGERS are in control.

notice the TEACHER, THE SHEPHERD IS YESHUA.................. not millions of strangers from the ''ungodly collection titles of the Christian clergy''
TITLES TITLES AND MORE TITLES from the saul/paul corrupted theory - all unholy strangers.

When we look about us in Christendom, we can hardly see the sky for the horde of shepherds, or "pastors" that the church supplies to the world.
Yeshua designated them as "strangers," and that they bring themselves under condemnation by accepting the designation, "pastor" all in total ignorance of the significance of the Lord's words.

here is the proof
yet, the deniers disregard THE SAVIOUR'S information THAT HE IS THE truth TEACHER/GOOD SHEPHERD TO HIS FLOCK as they remain in favour of an '''ex''''pharisee indoctrination they cannot give up.....

the GOSPEL IS CLEAR ON WHO TEACHES IT......................... and it was never given to a titled clery = called strangers.
When we look about us in Christendom, we can hardly see the sky for the horde of shepherds, or "pastors" that the church supplies to the world.
It is my position that these are those whom Jesus designated "strangers," and that they bring themselves under condemnation by accepting the designation, "pastor" all in total ignorance of the significance of their Lord's words.

you cannot get it more plainer than that?
so who are those who promote STRANGERS?
there is only 1 conclusion - satan's helpers.

[Eliyah]

notice the TEACHER, THE SHEPHERD IS YESHUA.................. not millions of strangers from the ''ungodly collection titles of the Christian clergy''
TITLES TITLES AND MORE TITLES from the saul/paul corrupted theory - all unholy strangers.

When we look about us in Christendom, we can hardly see the sky for the horde of shepherds, or "pastors" that the church supplies to the world.
Yeshua designated them as "strangers," and that they bring themselves under condemnation by accepting the designation, "pastor" all in total ignorance of the significance of the Lord's words.

here is the proof
yet, the deniers disregard THE SAVIOUR'S information HE IS THE TEACHER/GOOD SHPEHERD TO HIS FLOCK] in favour of a an '''ex''''pharisee indoctrination they cannot give up.....

the GOSPEL IS CLEAR ON WHO TEACHES IT......................... and it was never given to a titled clery = called strangers.
When we look about us in Christendom, we can hardly see the sky for the horde of shepherds, or "pastors" that the church supplies to the world.
It is my position that these are those whom Jesus designated "strangers," and that they bring themselves under condemnation by accepting the designation, "pastor" all in total ignorance of the significance of their Lord's words.

you cannot get it more plainer than that?
so who are those who promote STRANGERS?
there is only 1 conclusion - satan's helpers.

Lucy, all these denominations have also misinterpreted MESSIAH'S written word too, and each one of them promotes their own messiah, the same as you promote your own messiah too.

What makes your messiah any different? Is it because you believe your never going to die the first death??

[LucySmith]

satan's helpers promote saul/paul.... as we can ''see'' by

proving.....

Saul/Paul heavily influenced the resulting church due to the preservation of his writings, especially after the church canonized his epistles.
Christianity became a Gentile religion that, following Paul, blended elements of paganism, Judaism, and Jesus.
This constituted a vast deception in that the church came to see Jesus as Paul saw him, and it is Paul’s Jesus that has come down to us through the church.
The reformers reformed Paulinism, not the faith of Jesus.

yet, all this information means nothing to the diehard ''paulines'' as they defend the indefensible corruption to their sorrow.
the big business religions has to be maintained at all costs.

[Eliyah]

Where did the true Messiah of the scriptures, ever promise you an escape from the FIRST DEATH??

The ONLY DEATH that He promises an escape from is the second death Rev.2:11.

[Eliyah]

Messiah said: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He/She that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Rev.2:11.

Now, Lucy, show us your messiah's promise in written words of you never seeing the first death?

[LucySmith]

the proof...big business religions produce ugly pews

and nothing like the LOVE OF YESHUA, NOR, THE LOVE OF BRETHREN.
each calling other's ''sects'' liars and apostates just as saul/paul did and was called a liar many times by others.-[His strong point was his lying]
[same old spirit just different faces.]
the ''sects'' basically hate each other.
the common theme, when one meets the other is to ask '' what church do you go too'' = oppps.... no love for the brethren there~~~~~if you DARE TO SAY AN OPPOSING SECT.
Yet, under Yeshua, the ''sign of His Ekklesia'' is ''the love of the brethren'' - because God is love.

under the saul/paul system LOVE IS NOT PRESENT BUT IT IS A FEAR BASED system and evil is fear dressed up.
but this unholy mess is all normal to church people.
they don't see any wrong, and will fight for this system to remain in place.....and condone it as well.

condoning.....
THE LUTHERANS in ww2 never had a conscious about killing LUTHERANS from other nations, = ''whats wrong with that''? would be their ''''normal'''' reaction.

[Eliyah]

Messiah of the scriptures only promises 2 options in the world to come.

And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Matt.25:46.

Those who refuse to repent of sin/transgression of the law 1 John 3:4 are promised everlasting punishment which is the SECOND DEATH Rev.20:14.

The righteous are promised ETERNAL LIFE.

[Eliyah]

Messiah said: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He/She that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Rev.2:11.

Now, Lucy, show us your messiah's promise in written words of you never seeing the first death?

Oh can't do it huh Lucy?

[Eliyah]

Can't produce that text of scripture can you Lucy?

Messiah said: He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He/She that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death. Rev.2:11.

Now, Lucy, show us your messiah's promise in written words of you never seeing the first death?

Oh can't do it huh Lucy?

Can't produce that text of scripture can you Lucy?