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  • LucySmith
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    the holy decission... was as follows. acts 15

    after much discussion, THE HOLY SPIRIT TOOK OVER AND SAID through Peter this advice/order~~~~

    The apostles and elders met to consider this question.

    7 After much discussion, Peter got up and addressed them:

    “Brothers, you know that some time ago God made a choice among you that the Gentiles might hear from my lips the message of the gospel and believe.
    8 God, who knows the heart, showed that he accepted them by giving the Holy Spirit to them, just as he did to us.
    9 He did not discriminate between us and them, for he purified their hearts by faith.
    10 Now then, why do you try to test God by putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?
    11 No! We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are.”


    now the deceived law keepers [ of some laws 613 but not all] will NEVER BOW TO THE HOLY ADVICE but will offer up ''their views'' that conflict with THE HOLY SPIRIT = IS THIS NOT BLASPHEMY?

    HOW ABOUT WE GO THROUGH IT ONE STEP AT A TIME~~~

    *1 -PETER SAID....an apostle trained by Yeshua said this.... [ do you law keepers deny such a claim?]
    ofcourse they will as they try to ''spoil'' the truth~~~they weave their smoke screen and drink denial juices.

    Peter said = Father made a choice that the gentiles may hear the gospel~
    that is the truth~

    *2 - Peter said, the gentiles BELIEVED.
    that is the truth~

    #3- Peter said ''Father KNEW THEIR HEARTS AND ACCEPTED THEM [ like me] BY GIVING THEM HIS HOLY SPIRIT [ as He did to me] amen [ no evil man can take this away from me with satanic lies. amen
    that is the truth~

    #4- Peter said, Father did not discriminate but PURIFIED THEIR HEART BY FAITH = like me.
    that is the truth~

    #5- Peter asked - ''WHY DO YOU TEST FATHER BY, putting on the necks of Gentiles
    a yoke [THE LAWS OF MOSES TO THEM ALL ] that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?
    that is the truth~

    Stop right here and look and wonder over this statement under the anointing~~~~
    ''putting on the necks of Gentiles a[b] yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear/b]''?


    these ''STRANGERS'' with their defiled teaching are doing the opposite to what Peter said and there is NO WAY ANY PERSON CAN SPIN THIS OR TWIST IT TO MEAN something else
    putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

    putting on the necks of Gentiles a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors have been able to bear?

    only satan's seed WOULD TELL OTHERS A DIFFERENT UNHOLY STORY/THEORY THEY MADE UP....to ADDED CONDITIONS TO THE GOSPEL that were never there.

    #6 - NO said Peter.
    We believe it is through the grace of our Lord Jesus that we are saved, just as they are
    [b] this is me!!!!! and no foul mouths from nasty religious hypocrites will take it away~~~~ and it is for all disciples tuned into the truth of the gospel!!!

    do not allow anyone to REMOVE AND SPOIL the truth that YESHUA DIED TO GIVE TO HIS PEOPLE - THE TRUE REDEMPTION AND HIS SAVING POWER. AMEN. don't allow demonic spin to deceive.~~~~

    Now we come to the unveiling of another problem and why THE modern LAW KEEPERS want to keep these partial laws to the jews nly [ but no all] to MAKE THEM appear SELF RIGHTEOUS and not guily as sinners......
    Now look into their unholy problem and why ''they need'' ADDITIONAL pet- laws to the GOSPEL

    FATHER
    He purified their hearts by faith.

    DID YOU SEE THIS?
    THE PARTIAL LAW KEEPERS [taught by serpentine religious ] were rebels with a heart of a rebel....
    why?
    Because Yeshua warned of RELIGIOUS ''STRANGER DANGER'' - right up front and personal...
    WARNING'' DONT LISTEN TO STRANGERS'' ;
    LISTEN TO ME PLEASE.
    ....follow me....
    His message into the narrow way and not A THE BROADWAYS OF STRANGER RELIGION AND THEORIES OF MEN~~~

    THESE REBELS needed a law to make them appear ''righteous'' and not ''guily sinners''
    they were UNABLE TO WALK BY THE FAITH [ as a gift] AS THE SON OF GOD - they need fleshly props, to use, when their faith walk fails.
    Just hollow people and without divine substance.


    He purified their hearts by faith.

    He purified their hearts by faith.

    He purified their hearts by faith.

    HIS WORKMANSHIP ENTER FAITH INTO THEIR HEARTS AND SO the gates of hell, will not prevail against them.

    THE FAITH WORK,
    THE FAITH WALK,
    THE FAITH OF YESHUA IMPARTED - cannot be kept by lawkeepers at all.

    He purified their hearts by faith. THAT IS MY HEART and no rebel with ever take it away from me
    therefore
    I close this thread with the truth so evil will not spoil and corrupt its lovely message!!!

    STRANGER DANGER - KILLS
    STRANGER DANGER- is religion and its curses
    STRANGER DANGER- is real and its a hybrid false concept whereby people think they worship yeshua and \father but are glorifying the serpent and his seed.

    THE GOODNEWS IS for a few people only. MOST DO NOT ACCEPT IT as the truth is hated~~~~

    Don't listen to religious spin - LISTEN TO PETER with his anointed word~~~

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  • LucySmith
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    OFCOURSE SATAN was having a field day

    the battle raged, as the law-keepers jostled for their rights and the GOODNEWS disciples told the truth - REPENT.

    ASK
    for common sense question
    Why would obedient law keepers of Moses laws to the Jews, doing this same boring rout for 1500 yrs approx., NEED TO ''REPENT'' when they did it as a traditional worship.
    Why THE NEED TO REPENT?

    ''Hello'' to the elephant in the room no one can see.~~~

    THE BLIND cannot see the ELEPHANT!!!
    SO THE HOLY SPIRIT got jack of this problem and called an ASSEMLY. ACTS 15~~~

    ALL WERE THERE
    with fists out and tongues ready to speak~
    why?
    they were being made ready - to deceive or to receive.

    NOW THAT IS THE REAL QUESTION~~~

    satan makes people ready to be deceived
    the holy spirit makes ready to RECEIVE.


    [ remember that please when you see ''objections'' fly]
    STRANGERS DECEIVE.
    STRANGERS come from the hybrid line of Cain [ as the serpent seed] and are as ''stars'' religious ''stars'' - angels even. sweet talkin' proud walkin' ''stars of evil news''

    the laws of Moses to the Jews only - spoilt the human heart, for it was without mercy nor understanding - yet PRETENDED TO BE ''SPIRITUAL'' AND ''GODLY''.
    2 words come to mind~~~
    SPOILT
    SPOILING
    is a satanic device - that tried to RUIN THE TRUTH - when you see ''spoiling'' of THE GOODNEWS with added conditions KNOW THE DEVIL is raging and will stoop to low levels to beguile and rail road the truth so it is NEVER RECEIVED.
    BUT he will never win~~~
    TRUTH IS YESHUA~~ hurrah

    the devilish ''added'' condition to the GOODNEWS from strangers is KEEP SOME OF THE LAWS OF MOSES even when you are not a Jew nor under that ancient leader
    - a leader who was a murderer [ a sign of the hybrid serpent seedline] a poor child , deformed of speech from an incestuous relationship.

    WHAT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~~~~~~ HOLY MOLLY. [I got to follow him] its a joke right~~~~~
    YOU have to ask this true question

    = would you follow a person like this if he lived in your town~~~
    and you knew his backgrounds of sin and murder and see there was NO confession of true repentence [prior to ''their calling'']

    did you ever notice this LACK with saul/paul also a murderer [ a hybrid satan seedline man] and Moses.
    R.E.P.E.N.T.E.N.C.E = zilch~~~~[prior to their ''calling'']

    when the GOODNEWS WAS PREACHED THE 1ST WORD HEARD WAS .r.e.p.e.n.t...
    NONE WERE MADE'' APOSTLES OR BRETHREN'' without this happening FIRST~~~~~~ NOT AFTER~~~~~

    ALSO
    consider a small inconsistency here.
    Moses was supposedly trained up as a PRINCE AND PHARAOH we are told
    [ possibly untrue as NO RECORDS OF Moses have even been found when there is a vast array of knowledge of Egypt to be seen- infact -huge amounts but no Moses]
    well Moses kills a person and runs for the hills.

    COME ON
    COME ON
    a PRINCE OF EGYPT kills and runs.....
    pull the other leg it has bells on it~~~~~

    the royals lived ABOVE THEIR LAW
    - THEY WERE THE LAW.~~~~~ AND SLAVES AND OTHERS WERE KILLED EVERY DAY~~~~[story teller you have to do better than this!!!]
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  • LucySmith
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    the brainwashed.... are ''full of it'''

    so now to ''acts 15~~~ THE TRUTH OF A MESSY MATTER.

    THE MESSY MATTER IS.... A NEW SYSTEM was being introduced called '' REPENT, THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN IS AT HAND,''
    THE GOODNEWS HAS ARRIVED, A NEW COVENANT TO BE INSTALLED.

    WHY?
    Father is creating a NEW CREATION and this is how HE decided to do this ''creating'' = via THE GOODNEWS, ''peace on earth and goodwill to all men''
    the NEW COVENANT came in due time, to remove the flesh of man lost in sin, and allow the divine image of heaven to be installed here, within the children of God.

    [the human was now to return to a spiritual life/light being equipped and full of divine love joy and peace and most of all THE ETERNAL ZOE LIFE imparted here]

    satan ofcourse would come in and destroy this wonder of wonders VIA ''STRANGERS'' Yeshua said don't follow.
    YESHUA AS AN ADULT [ speaking to children] said FOLLOW ME - and the redeemed do. amen

    satan puts people [ like the above poster] to derail the truth with lies they think of as the truth,
    why do they think it the truth?
    They are unable to reason with divine common sense because they were ''beguiled'' by a spell of witchcraft~~~~ brainwashed by STRANGERS~~~~[ A terrible thing to watch]
    Most people suffer from this complaint.

    The devil cannot bear the truth and the truth is HATED.... YESHUA WAS HATED AS ARE HIS DISCIPLES.
    But that is history...


    THEY all assembled over a few messy problems associated with one covenant being removed and another newer one taking its place.~~~

    [it ALSO must be considered that these laws of Moses related too .....
    Violence,
    Stupidity
    Terrible inhuman cruelity and human suffering !!
    on nations and others not under their laws.]

    Laws without compassion forgiveness and mercy attached. [ a devilish combination ofcourse]

    This came about from 2 ''gods'' called ''the lord, and YHWH''... angels of the Lord talking to Moses called ''the lord, and YHWH''.

    [within these laws are 300 verse of violence and 1000 verse of killings in the OT -]

    when asked, Yeshua referred to these laws as ''their law'' in the 3rd person and NEVER AS ''my law'' - but 6 times HE DID SAY '' BUT I SAY'' - correcting previously held views.

    back to THE HOLY SPIRIT OF TRUTH IN acts 15...

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  • Eliyah
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    Lucy, do you even know the Holy Spirit? Or, does the Holy Spirit even know you?

    YOU said-quote: ""so the holy spirit zipped off.... and these law-keeper unbelievers live under the law of death""

    Where does the NEW TESTAMENT WRITERS say the law of Elohim are the laws of death?

    Ever wonder WHY ONE PERSON, that claims they have the Holy Spirit, and can't find a single scripture that calls Elohim's law, the laws of death?

    If what Lucy says were true, why is there no Holy Spirit filled person in the new testament saying such things?

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  • Eliyah
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    Lucy, do you even know the Holy Spirit? Or, does the Holy Spirit even know you?

    YOU said-quote: ""so the holy spirit zipped off.... and these law-keeper unbelievers live under the law of death""

    Where does the NEW TESTAMENT WRITERS say the law of Elohim are the laws of death?

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  • LucySmith
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    rightly dividing the words.....

    the reason is....
    to'' hear''.................................................... THE GOODNEWS PREACHED in all manner of ways,
    was 1 - to go where the Jews collected upon a certain day and give them THE GOODNEWS THERE.

    One would have to be brain dead NOT TO REALISE you preach where people are in the first place....
    THE GOODNEWS was preached where people gathered
    DUH.....
    also
    it was a transitional period of 40yrs to change from one covenant to the new covenant.
    70AD ended the 40 yrs of transition and probation

    after 70ad the whole system was defunct.
    this history cannot be denied.
    please get off denial juices they kill you.


    However.
    that is one truth~~~~~
    Yet ofcourse the GOODNEWS can be preached where 2/3 are gathered in THE NAME YESHUA = THIS also makes sense.

    Let us cont... the investigation
    STRANGERS came in to weaken the gospel and announced
    ''YOU WRETCHED VILE SINNERS.
    YOU ARE ALL DOOMED,
    YOU DONT KEEP SATURDAYS FREE LIKE THE JEWS TO WORSHIP
    AND
    YOU ALL WORSHIP LIKE THE HEATHEN SABBATH LAWBREAKERS
    VILE YOU VILE....''

    ''oh''~~~~ SCREAMED THE sin-cerely IGNORANT...
    '' WHAT SHALL WE DO'' THEY CRIED.

    ''WELL'' said these strangers ~~~
    [BTW - Yeshua -said don't listen to'']

    We will show you what to do and you obey us and the good book where it says.....
    '' THE LORD GOD SAID to the Hebrews, KEEP SATURDAYS FREE TO WORSHIP ME, DONT DO ANYTHING BE BORING, OTHERWISE I will HAVE YOU STONED TO DEATH''
    and THE SINcere did~~~ by their millions.

    but
    NO STRANGERS showed [these gullible SINcere pew people only the pews-sitters will believe this] -the TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH - FROM AN APOSTOLIC ASSEMBLY AND THE HOLY SPIRIT I.N.T.E.R.V.E.N.T.I.O.N. as a command and advice. acts 15

    THE STRANGERS said '' UP YOURS HOLY SPIRIT WE DO WHAT IS RIGHT - ZIP OFF ''
    ~~~ now that is the truth~~~~~

    so the holy spirit zipped off.... and these law-keeper unbelievers live under the law of death and laws 613 of them NO MAN COULD KEEP~~~~ and satan wins again~~~~

    but
    but
    but

    THIS TRUTH MAKES NO DIFFERENCE WHATSOEVER to the brainwashed and indoctrinated.
    [ into law keeping NO MAN could keep]

    so

    When a ''holy than you ''law keeper of Moses to the Jews only - is confronted to the ACTS 15 TRUTH - they cannot answer it and pass it off as a ........
    ''whatever~~~~ your a law breaker and sinner....'' ..........in their own self righteous way.
    Never even knowing Yeshua was not a jew.
    OH MY how dumb is dumb [ I don't say this unkindly, but sadly for those who are so blinded]

    Well I can understand because most people are LEAD and so cannot think for themselves because they are not trained up TO THINK
    they are the SHEEPLE.
    SHEEPLE ARE TOLD what to do and how to think~~~~ [ it is common knowledge.]

    so they resist GODLY HOMEWORK and follow strangers, who lead them into DEATH~~~~the law of Moses kills.


    The yoke and burden OF THE LAW TO THE JEWS ONLY is this [btw -none were told *the bad news* by the STRANGERS.]

    The O.T. law required...............
    copy one - you do them all
    break one - break them all
    they are 613 laws making up a whole unit.


    BUT THE UNGODLY STRANGERS never told the pew people SHEEPLE this = they just made money and built empires on lies.~~~

    SO NOW TO ACTS 15 TO ''SEE'' the holy spirit's decision~~~

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  • Eliyah
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    And when the Jews were gone out of the synagogue, the Gentiles besought that these words might be preached to them the next Sabbath.... And the next sabbath day came almost the whole city together to hear the word of Elohim. Acts 13:42-44.

    Lucy, tells us, why was Gentiles gathered together here on THE SABBATH DAY to hear the word of Elohim?

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  • wonder? why do some keep a saturday as their sabbath?

    when they are not Jews nor Hebrews
    BTW
    it was only the Hebrews - who only had a covenant under the laws of Moses [ if infact this is true history and not made up by their ancient 72 rabbis on an ego trip]
    and
    who were the ''strangers'' [they listened too] that ordered this ''command'' for them
    when
    In acts 15 a decision was made by the apostolic assembly and holy spirit, NOT TO BURDEN THE GENTILES with the YOKE of the law [ that was too hard to bear]

    a true question now can be asked....
    what RIGHT HAVE STRANGERS to alter this APOSTOLIC decision?

    let us cont..... as a spiritual detective to sort out the truth from the vile.

    please allow an investigation into WHY strangers ALTERED the holy spirit decision [by spitting in His face] saying up yours '' we will do it our way''
    why is this tragic mistake, worshipped by so many and for what reason????

    is it possible to fine out the truth of this matter?
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