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  • #16
    some edification on the 2 faced god....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5YjMuFC0Z8
    can you stand the truth?
    can you stand for THE TRUTH

    people put a huge effort into researching and seeking after the truth of a matter and so when something smells odd.... it needs a FRUIT INSPECTION...
    consider....
    THE CHARACTERS OF FATHER AND YESHUA in the NT is one of caring and sharing...this character trait doesn't switch over to violence abuse and murder.,,,.
    what do you think

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    • #17
      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5YjMuFC0Z8
      can you stand the truth?
      can you stand for THE TRUTH

      people put a huge effort into researching and seeking after the truth of a matter and so when something smells odd.... it needs a FRUIT INSPECTION...
      consider....
      THE CHARACTERS OF FATHER AND YESHUA in the NT is one of caring and sharing...this character trait doesn't switch over to violence abuse and murder.,,,.
      what do you think
      Lucy, have YOU listened to all of this?? They only look at the scriptures from a physical standpoint, and think that YHWH wrote this almost 6,000 years ago merely for the so called Elite of today to interpret?? Who do these people think they are kidding? Are YOU an idiot Lucy?? These people THINK your an idiot Lucy for believing in YESHUA.

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      • #18
        Lucy, are YOU now an antimessiah, and promoting their doctrines too? Is this NOT what YOU are doing in the video above?

        Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son. 1 John 2:22

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        • #19
          CO-INCIDENCE----satan the murderer from the beginning and a liar

          CO-INCIDENCE.

          MOSES WAS A MURDERER, founded the old testament and its religion
          SAUL/PAUL WAS A MURDERER. who founded the Christian church religion.

          CO-INCIDENCES?
          satan was /is a liar
          Moses was a liar
          saul/paul was a liar.

          CO-INCIDENCES?

          NOW IF YOU LOOK VERY CAREFULLY we ''see'' this ''god'' is a MURDERER too.
          “”Therefore thus saith the Lord God of Israel,
          Behold, I am bringing such evil upon Jerusalem and Judah, that whosoever heareth of it, both his ears shall tingle.

          —2 Kings 21:12
          God is recorded in the Bible as having personally killed a large number of people
          its edifying to scroll down here and find the verses and the # of people slaughtered by this deadly 2 gods...
          http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Example...killing_people
          COINCIDENCE~~~~
          Perspectives

          Since large numbers of people often end up as meaningless statistics, consider the rough guide below:
          20 million - In the global flood this figure is just over the maximum estimated human population before agriculture. Approximately the current population of Australia. It would take about a decade for this many Americans to die of natural causes. Actually, absolute terms aren't useful for this one as it was near-enough 100% of the population - imagine 7 billion people being killed should God decide to pull this one again.
          185,000 - Assyrian soldiers killed while sleeping. This is greater than the entire multi-national coalition force at the peak of the Iraq War - so imagine losing that entire force in their sleep in one night. By comparison, the bloodiest battle (on a single day) in modern history would be the first day of the Battle of the Somme, where 20,000 BEF troops were killed. 185,000 is also the equivalent of 9/11 every single day for two months.
          70,000 - Assorted Israelites, incidentally the same number of people who claimed to be Jedi in the 2001 Australian census. This is approximately the athletics capacity of Wembley Stadium.
          50,070 - Assuming the higher figure, this is not far off the capacity of Yankee Stadium. Sports stadiums are useful comparisons because they're areas where we have photographs of that many people in close proximity and you can see how many it represents.
          24,000 - Slightly higher than the capacity of Madison Square Garden for pro wrestling.

          Of course, many of these numbers do pale next to what humans do to each other, and what the planet itself has thrown at us, but it is really the motives (or lack of) that should be truly shocking.

          Remember God loves you!

          I WONDERED HOW THE author and creator and sustainer of all life can be a killer~~~~~
          the POWER within called ETERNAL LIFE cannot kill. - that is impossible BECAUSE THE INSIDE AND OUTSIDE persona contain the vast FULLNESS OF ENDLESS and IMPERISHALE LIFE.
          death is a lower frequency and power of energy~~~~

          Our Father is LOVE AND LOVE IS NEVER a inhumane killer rampaging like a ancient Adolf Hilter~~~~

          and the present day actors in the Pauline religious scam.
          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4usAFs9OVGY
          Last edited by LucySmith; 04-18-2016, 08:57 PM.

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          • #20
            the BAD NEWS IS.. youre an idiot if u follow these...


            Religious Auto-Exceptionalism








            Most rationalist are fascinated by the religious mind.
            There are many aspects to be fascinated by.
            The failure to see obvious self-contractions and fatal inconsistencies.
            The failure to follow simple arguments.
            The love of supposed “mysteries”, and so on.
            One aspect that seems to have received no attention to date is the phenomenon of making up oppressive rules and then making up reasons to ignore them.
            This phenomenon of what we might call religious auto-exceptionalism appears to be restricted to monotheistic religions.



            [the Sabbath]
            Here are a few examples.
            Let’s start with a couple of Jewish ones.


            Here’s a Jewish example.
            In the Jewish scriptures God gives his chosen people one day off in every seven.
            People do not need to work on the Sabbath.
            The provision permitting people not to work became an injunction not to work.
            God told Moses to kill a man for collecting firewood on the Sabbath day.
            The word “work” is interpreted to cover all sorts of activity.
            Orthodox Jews will not perform such everyday tasks as lighting a fire, making a telephone call or opening an umbrella.
            In short, all sorts of normal activity is banned, so a small industry has grown up inventing ways of doing things automatically without performing even basic activities.
            At one end of the spectrum people will prepare a meal the day before, and set an oven timer to cook it for their Sabbath meal.
            At the other end of the spectrum are a host of specially made devices designed specifically to get around these pointless restrictions.
            And it gets better. Jeremiah 17:22 says

            neither carry forth a burden out of your houses on the Sabbath day, neither do ye any work; but hallow ye the Sabbath day, as I commanded your fathers
            .

            So as well as a prohibition on doing things, there is also a prohibition on carrying things out of your house.
            This covers anything.
            People cannot for example carry their car keys out of the house.
            They cannot even carry a prayer book to the synagogue.
            And the rule affects everyone, so mothers cannot carry babies, not even in strollers.
            Old people cannot “carry” walking sticks.
            Sick people cannot carry medicines.
            Handicapped people cannot “carry” wheelchairs.
            As has often been observed, only a religious mind can invent nonsense of a magnitude such as this.

            This prohibition on “carrying” is taken very seriously by Orthodox Jews who have developed a vast collection of law on the subject, many rules made by one group contradicting rules made by other groups.
            (If you take something out of your house then bring it back, have you carried it out?).
            These rules are not only pointless in any rational universe, but seriously oppressive.

            So religious minds have found ways to justify ways around the rules.
            An obvious problem is that the rule prohibits the wearing of clothes, and no religious person wants to enforce that.
            So clothes are considered exempt.
            And that opens up possibilities.
            For example if your car key is built into a belt, and you wear the belt, then you are not technically carrying the key!
            Incidentally, if you think I’m making this up, you can check the facts with any Orthodox Jew, or any book of Jewish law or any Orthodox Jewish website.
            In the Orthodox community there is much debate over the wearing of spectacles, hearing aids, bandages and plaster casts, and wristwatches, with separate debates over men’s and women’s jewelry.

            Wearing instead of carrying is not the only way of getting around the rules.
            Another is to extend the definition of your “house”.
            Rabbis have developed a whole fantasy world where “houses” are not actual houses but neighbourhoods.
            These fantasy houses are ritual enclosures.
            Originally they had to be linked courtyards, but that proved impractical.
            So the rules were relaxed to allow an area surrounded by a substantial wall.
            When that became impractical the rules were changed again to allow a flimsy fence.
            A ritual area regarded as a single house for the purposes of Jewish law is called an erov.
            Today, there are erovs in most major cities in the western world, allowing Orthodox Jews to ignore the oppressive arbitrary rules that they invented for themselves.

            Individuals do much the same thing as the rabbis, playing linguistic tricks, but on a smaller scale.
            The technique might be less subtle, but it is identical in principle.
            It is not uncommon to find Jewish people who will not eat pork, but will eat bacon, ham, gammon and wild boar.
            A simple redefinition of the word pork achieves the desired result.
            Instead of denoting all pig-meat, the word pork is regarded as denoting only particular types of pig-meat.

            highlight of the sabbath

            badnewsblog.com

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            • #21
              The bad news is, that Lucy does NOT like the scriptures presented to her, and the good news is, that she will close all her threads to prevent the truth of scriptures being presented to her.

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              • #22
                some goodnews

                only those called out from Babylon and its confusion don't follow strangers


                Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.

                It is not the science of getting better.

                Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.
                Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.
                Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.
                By and by, one is brought into new realities.
                These realities test and trouble his preconceived notions.
                He feels himself leaving the one world and entering into the next.
                This has with it not a few personal confrontations.
                He wants the new world but seems unwilling to let go of the old.
                His sentimental attachments keep him bound in a fantasy land of his own mental ideas.
                The comforts and pleasures one has become accustomed to must be released.
                He must let go of the relationships he valued in the first world and completely establish other relationships in the new.
                His understanding of what constitutes truth continually changes and expands so that His view of the world now approaches unto the Christ, which is the anointing.
                The anointing only has the true view of things as they are.

                This anointing is what saves a soul and gives him eyes to see what is true.


                the anointing - Christ power manifests within the ekklesia
                this is how.

                James 1:21 says
                "the engrafted word is able to save your soul".

                In my understanding, if she (the soul) were saved, like your spirit is saved and she were under total sanctification, then there wouldn't be any disagreement between her and her[spirit] husband.

                There would be unity in the house.

                The woman would be submitting to the husband and "where two are gathered together in my name [nature] I am in the midst of them."

                When your spirit and soul are together in unity, Christ manifests.
                The man of the house is able to plant seed in the womb of the soul of the woman and she brings forth a man-child into the earth.

                First she believed and received, then she conceived.
                In the realm of the heavens, the soul woman must have her thing together.
                The soul must receive the seed of God's word from the spirit, the new creation man.

                She must receive, conceive it, and bring it forth.

                Then the authority and glory of God will be manifest in the earth.
                the talk matches the walk.
                Last edited by LucySmith; 04-23-2016, 08:49 PM.

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                • #23
                  Some good comparisions,

                  http://www.theologe.de/theologian8.htm
                  How the Devil
                  Wreaked Havoc in the Bible



                  • “I, the Lord, do not change.” (Old Testament, Malachi 3:6)

                  • “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever.” (New Testament, Letter to the Hebrews 13:8)

                  • The Old Testament and the New Testament – “both are the true Word of God.” (Catechism of the Catholic Church, No. 140)

                  • “The Bible is a tailor-made book of the churches.” (Theologian Moris Hoblaj)





                  If one believes the Bible, then God ordered genocide and animal sacrifices, for instance.

                  But Jesus teaches: “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you” (Luke 6:27).
                  He did not teach the sacrifice of animals.
                  Instead, He drove the animal merchants out of the temple.

                  What do the churches have to say about this?
                  Do they therefore think that the Old Testament is partially wrong or obsolete?
                  In their current catechism, the Catholic Church made the following binding statement:

                  “The Old Testament prepares for the New and the New Testament fulfills the Old; the two shed light on each other; both are the true Word of God” (No. 140).

                  And in the “Lutheran Confessions,” the Protestant Lutheran Church right up until today makes the following binding determination:
                  The Old as well as the New Testament is: “the sole judge, regulation and guideline,” according to which “all teachings must be recognized and judged, whether they are good or bad, right or wrong” (Formular Concordia from the year 1580, Epitome, Summary note 3).
                  However, when the “true Word of God” in the New Testament does not agree at all with the “true Word of God” in the Old Testament, then it is explained that God has in part changed His way of working and acting.
                  But in the Bible itself it is written:

                  “I, the LORD, do not change.”
                  That is what it says for instance in the Old Testament, and in the New Testament one can read: “Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever” (see box above).
                  Besides, the Bible contradicts itself within the Old Testament and within the New Testament.

                  But then what should the reader orient himself to, if he wants to believe in the God of the Bible?



                  READING ON A PAGE never makes a person ALIVE to the truth as much as a TRUE PERSONAL FACE TO FACE ONENESS relationship does
                  the truth is not found very easily IT HAS TO BE SORT OUT.

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                  • #24
                    The REST is a Sabbath from SINNING!

                    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post

                    Religious Auto-Exceptionalism

                    Most rationalist are fascinated by the religious mind.
                    There are many aspects to be fascinated by.
                    The failure to see obvious self-contractions and fatal inconsistencies.
                    The failure to follow simple arguments.
                    The love of supposed “mysteries”, and so on.
                    One aspect that seems to have received no attention to date is the phenomenon of making up oppressive rules and then making up reasons to ignore them.
                    This phenomenon of what we might call religious auto-exceptionalism appears to be restricted to monotheistic religions.

                    [the Sabbath]
                    Here are a few examples.
                    Let’s start with a couple of Jewish ones.


                    Here’s a Jewish example.
                    In the Jewish scriptures God gives his chosen people one day off in every seven.
                    People do not need to work on the Sabbath.
                    The provision permitting people not to work became an injunction not to work.
                    God told Moses to kill a man for collecting firewood on the Sabbath day.
                    The word “work” is interpreted to cover all sorts of activity.
                    Orthodox Jews will not perform such everyday tasks as lighting a fire, making a telephone call or opening an umbrella.
                    In short, all sorts of normal activity is banned, so a small industry has grown up inventing ways of doing things automatically without performing even basic activities.
                    At one end of the spectrum people will prepare a meal the day before, and set an oven timer to cook it for their Sabbath meal.
                    At the other end of the spectrum are a host of specially made devices designed specifically to get around these pointless restrictions.
                    And it gets better. Jeremiah 17:22 says


                    So as well as a prohibition on doing things, there is also a prohibition on carrying things out of your house.
                    This covers anything.
                    People cannot for example carry their car keys out of the house.
                    They cannot even carry a prayer book to the synagogue.
                    And the rule affects everyone, so mothers cannot carry babies, not even in strollers.
                    Old people cannot “carry” walking sticks.
                    Sick people cannot carry medicines.
                    Handicapped people cannot “carry” wheelchairs.
                    As has often been observed, only a religious mind can invent nonsense of a magnitude such as this.

                    This prohibition on “carrying” is taken very seriously by Orthodox Jews who have developed a vast collection of law on the subject, many rules made by one group contradicting rules made by other groups.
                    (If you take something out of your house then bring it back, have you carried it out?).
                    These rules are not only pointless in any rational universe, but seriously oppressive.

                    So religious minds have found ways to justify ways around the rules.
                    An obvious problem is that the rule prohibits the wearing of clothes, and no religious person wants to enforce that.
                    So clothes are considered exempt.
                    And that opens up possibilities.
                    For example if your car key is built into a belt, and you wear the belt, then you are not technically carrying the key!
                    Incidentally, if you think I’m making this up, you can check the facts with any Orthodox Jew, or any book of Jewish law or any Orthodox Jewish website.
                    In the Orthodox community there is much debate over the wearing of spectacles, hearing aids, bandages and plaster casts, and wristwatches, with separate debates over men’s and women’s jewelry.

                    Wearing instead of carrying is not the only way of getting around the rules.
                    Another is to extend the definition of your “house”.
                    Rabbis have developed a whole fantasy world where “houses” are not actual houses but neighbourhoods.
                    These fantasy houses are ritual enclosures.
                    Originally they had to be linked courtyards, but that proved impractical.
                    So the rules were relaxed to allow an area surrounded by a substantial wall.
                    When that became impractical the rules were changed again to allow a flimsy fence.
                    A ritual area regarded as a single house for the purposes of Jewish law is called an erov.
                    Today, there are erovs in most major cities in the western world, allowing Orthodox Jews to ignore the oppressive arbitrary rules that they invented for themselves.

                    Individuals do much the same thing as the rabbis, playing linguistic tricks, but on a smaller scale.
                    The technique might be less subtle, but it is identical in principle.
                    It is not uncommon to find Jewish people who will not eat pork, but will eat bacon, ham, gammon and wild boar.
                    A simple redefinition of the word pork achieves the desired result.
                    Instead of denoting all pig-meat, the word pork is regarded as denoting only particular types of pig-meat.

                    highlight of the sabbath

                    badnewsblog.com
                    Hi Lucy, just thought I would give you something good. When the Children of Israel were delivered OUT from Egypt, their deliverance is a SHADOW or PICTURE of what Messiah is doing with us:

                    Deuteronomy 5:15 And remember that thou wast a slave in the land of Egypt, and [that] Yahweh thy Elohim brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore Yahweh thy Elohim commanded thee to keep the Sabbath day.

                    You see Lucy, Yeshua, with His Mighty Hand and Outstretched Arm has DELIVERED us from the SLAVERY to sin (His suffering and death on the Cross), therefore we should REST from the WORK of iniquity, and KEEP the Sabbath. Ken
                    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                    Abstain from meats offered to idols
                    (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                    • #25
                      dear sweet Kenneth

                      I am so happy, My Saviour, doesnt kill me for any law keeping of Moses to the jews i dont do.
                      I am so happy He has not made me sin conscious, and having sinfilled glasses. I was a captive but now am freed.
                      I am so happy My Saviour shows me how to enter into His rest, and has such GOODNEWS for me as to take my burdens and releases me from them
                      Also i am so happy i was never birthed under the gods of the OT.... speaking of grace...lol... I sure did receive it over this one issue.

                      Once when i was 5yrs old some pals locked me in a wheat bin a huge drum... and sat on the top and would not let me out for quiet awhile
                      Since that time i never liked confined spaces ie. planes or lifts to name a few.
                      As i had to live my life flying and in skyscrapers it was rather a difficult time for me and i used to panic very easily.
                      I prayed this strong hold would be broken and pleaded for this silly dread to be removed.

                      I asked for His faith to overcome my burden and then gave my burden to HIM Math 11 v 28-29-30....
                      i found it was removed from me and today i have no worries at confined spaces, planes or lifts as i rather enjoy both experiences.
                      As i fly alot and use lifts alot it is so wonderfull not to be captive to such terror and bondage

                      HE SET ME FREE.

                      amen

                      this silly captive [my old self] suffering so much distress from terror IS FREED.
                      I GIVE HIM ALL MY LOVE AND GLORY AND PRAISES... because i know without HIM i would still remain a slave to terror and distress over these 2 things.

                      This is PART OF MY LIFE TESTIMONY - THAT OVERCOMES SATAN... amen.
                      I got losts of these stories i guess i used to be the dirtiest card in the deck... sigh
                      And at the time i thought i was miss nice.

                      I have heaps of freedom acts to tell and how i walk by His faith, so that is why i am not worried by too much of what you write... dear Ken..
                      I am sad for you and your religious ways as i have heard this form of belief before from others and still they die in their sins.
                      i wish it was not so, but the true/divine ingredients seem to be missing in SINcere people even those we love..
                      They never are able to give their personal burdens to the ''MR DIVINE FIXIT FOR ME PLEASE'' saviour Himself... and be released from all their phobias, guilt trips, lusts and other assorted nasties we all seem, to have.
                      I have never kept the Sabbath in my life, [ I am not a Jewish nor under Herbert Armstrong teaching] its so religious for me and I see it never takes physical death away from those who do...
                      I do confess I LOVE HANDS ON EXPERIENCES...meaning- THAT MANIFEST OUT THE DIVINE GLORY AND I GO ''WOW de WOW'' thinking '' imagine that''''~~~'
                      I like the IMPACT of colliding with the divine


                      DARN MATRIX - A GHASTLY EXPERIENCE UNLESS we overcome it as He overcame.
                      i love u Ken, [ silly old grump that u are] but you sure need massive helps.... thats ok little buddy... miracles happen WHEN THE GLORY IS AROUND amen
                      I hope you and Spying hang in there who knows with your Sabbath keeping and my holy faith - it may well work.
                      cross ya fingers and spit into the wind 3 times.....lol lol [joking].

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                      • #26
                        cont, to Kenneth,

                        TELLING....................................
                        from our experiences... IS
                        to become an example of divine reality = that overcomes satan so we can say '' satan you have nothing on me'' [like our Saviour said. amen]



                        many millions of people in this world have been bible students, ever learning and debate their views and theories.
                        many millions of people in this world, love their ''jesus'', their study, their churches.

                        I wondered why with all this talking and study and concentrated religious effort to understand the bible - very few really experienced true divine freedom and lived the same liberty as Yeshua walked in.
                        consider
                        All great preaching, great edification, great expounding - is all happening and attracts many and converts many each day.
                        yes indeed,

                        so i wondered why these great edifiers, left me cold and i regarded most of this effort as '' useless information''.

                        I was like this for a few years, but i hung in there always wondering and seeking His hidden truth, till one day I found what I was looking for and was blown away by the extent of this information, that i was never the same person afterwards.

                        You see one verse made me BORN AGAIN, when i thought i was already.
                        Yes, i was a born again from when i was 14yrs old but i was not DIVINELY BORN AGAIN till i was much much older.

                        What happened was i read a verse and this verse hit me with its power and understanding that i was changed in the twinkling of an eye, from a old man adam [lucy] and into a new creation Lucy - i experienced His resurrection power and glory as a seedling planted IN me and nothing could stop it from growing into a full fledged fruit called ETERNAL LIFE.

                        There is No power, that can take away this eternal life realm, once it has been planted into a disciple because this disciples is BORN AGAIN and passed out from death [the Matrix values of vanity] and into DIVINE LIFE as Yeshua lived within it here.

                        The disciples life now it eternal, and in this eternal state they become trained up in eternal truths so they will not perish from 'lack of knowledge'.
                        Each morning as they come before their Saviour, new revelations comes, new divine thinking becomes a reality, new ways open up into a miraclous way of living.

                        ie,
                        it is like the Saviour has found an outlet here and its like an oil gusher that flows and flows with all those divine things we can read about in the NT.
                        Now yes,
                        there is study and
                        yes there is revelations but none is a wasted effort why? His word will not return to Him void.
                        why?
                        because, with THE REVELATION becomes THE EXPERIENCE and the experience becomes the escape from the law of sin and death, and all carnal religious works and evil knowledge that repeatedly makes men die.
                        Religion kills and it is a waste of time even when its deception makes the pews feel wise and above others in their learning.
                        Did you know the greatest sadness is to see a ''learned religious man'' who is blind to divine realities.

                        I realised that most people are diseased, not necessarily with an illness but are DIS-EASED = or without their divine rest.
                        rest, is best.
                        YOU SEE the sin of Adam was '' he chose to make up his own mind which way to jump'' - he was immature like a 2yr old wanting to be in change of the family business.
                        When the test came, he chose to do it ''his way''
                        When you chose to make up your own mind, your'e dis-eased - and have NO rest in the will of the Father.
                        why?
                        NEVER ONCE did Yeshua make up His on mind yet religious men all around Him did it and still do it to this day i .e , they make up their minds over many things, that are very contrary to the NT advices.

                        I have learnt to rest and allow my Father's will to take control, regardless of how i think or feel over a matter.

                        I have found my sabbath and it has nothing to do with the old covenant under the Levitical priesthood [ the dying priesthood unable to save sinners] nothing= yet these same men were SKILLED in their own biblical knowledge.

                        Being born again is nothing like the churched will say, '' so when you die you will go to heaven and not hell''.......
                        no,
                        Born again, is passing out from death and into true life and learning how to walk IN THE LIBERTY OF CHRIST here and now.

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                        • #27
                          cont..2 prt...dear kenneth

                          do you think, these humans are of lesser values than ourselves?
                          do you think, one day this torture of children will end?
                          do you think, your religious views will help such people?
                          do you think, the Hebrew children and other nation's children suffered in the OT as todays children do?
                          https://www.facebook.com/renkli.tv/v...type=2&theater
                          will no one take a stand and say HELP! MY FATHER AND HAVE MERCY UPON US ALL?
                          will no one take a stand and say FATHER, WE NEED YOU TO FIX US ALL.
                          will no one take a stand and say FATHER, HEAL ME, THEN SEND ME TO DO YOUR WORK amen.

                          something for you to think on as you hold your Sabbaths.

                          you know something dear Kenneth,
                          it really upsets me no end.....Is when religious people sit in their sweet houses and type absolute rubbish and then think they are pious!!! and they know nothing about these solutions of all manner of injustice and legalised killings.

                          perhaps we all need to Thank Father we don't walk in anothers' shoes.

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                          • #28
                            Freed from SINNING and BREAKING the Law of Moses.

                            Hi Lucy, to be set free from your burdens, one needs to LISTEN to Moses, and not be discouraged by how hard you think the LABOR is:

                            Ex 6:5-9

                            (5) And I have also heard the groaning of the children of Israel, whom the Egyptians keep in bondage; and I have remembered My covenant.
                            (6) Wherefore say unto the children of Israel, I [am] Yahweh, and I will bring you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians, and I will rid you out of their bondage, and I will redeem you with a stretched out arm, and with great judgments:
                            (7) And I will take you to me for a people, and I will be to you an Elohim: and ye shall know that I [am] Yahweh your Elohiim, which bringeth you out from under the burdens of the Egyptians.
                            (8) And I will bring you in unto the Land, concerning the which I did swear to give it to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob; and I will give it you for an heritage: I [am] Yahweh.
                            (9) And Moses spake so unto the children of Israel: but they would not listen to Moses for anguish of spirit, and for cruel bondage.

                            Lucy, our Beloved Brother John is in agreement with this as he writes:

                            1Jn 5:2-4

                            (2) By this we know that we love the children of Elohim, when we love Elohim, and keep His commandments. (Dan 9:4)
                            (3) For this is the love of Elohim, that we keep His commandments: and His commandments are not a burden.
                            (4) For whatsoever is born of Elohim overcometh the world: and this is the victory that overcometh the world, [even] our faith.

                            When your heart is TURNED to LOVE the Commands of Yahweh, they are no longer a burden, but rather a delight:

                            (Psa 119:47) And I will delight myself in Thy commandments, which I have loved.

                            Isa 58:13-14

                            (13) If thou turn away thy foot from the Sabbath, [from] doing thy pleasure on My Holy Day; and call the Sabbath a delight, the holy of Yahweh, honourable; and shalt honour Him, not doing thine own ways, nor finding thine own pleasure, nor speaking [thine own] words:
                            (14) Then shalt thou delight thyself in Yahweh; and I will cause thee to ride upon the high places of the earth (be victorious in overcoming the world), and feed thee with the heritage of Jacob thy father: for the mouth of Yahweh hath spoken [it].

                            Lucy, the commands of Elohim can be a DELIGHT to those who OVERCOME through FAITH in Him. Ken
                            Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                            Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                            Abstain from meats offered to idols
                            (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                            So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                            • #29
                              well IAH

                              I am free, and it was by MY Saviour's intercession over me that did the work. I am His workmanship.
                              Moses was a victim of incest [if he ever existed and was not made up character from the elite]
                              Yeshua's MY SAVIOUR not MOSES.
                              I stay with what works.

                              I hope one day you will see the difference.
                              If I had of prayed to Moses, I would have still been in the mess I was in...you sound like those RC victims who are told to pray to mother Mary with their rosary beads.

                              and as for my sins, the blood of the lamb washed them all away.
                              How come you don't know this?

                              are you sad you never lived under the law of moses....???

                              to put you on the straight and narrow here IAH
                              what will purify us from sin?

                              but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. -1 John 1:7
                              not a jolly blip from Moses....
                              why not reconsider.....
                              what does the job and the divine impact that is well worthwhile to dwell within.

                              I do believe you have taken a wrong turn here.....
                              what made you swallow Herbert Armstrong's belief, was he so powerfull an angel of light you believed him?
                              Yeshua said DONT FOLLOW A STRANGER.

                              DARE I ASK how come you find 613 laws a delight?
                              remember if you break one you break them all.
                              don't you know in 70 ad the whole system was destroyed?

                              http://www.zengardner.com/matrix-con...manifestation/
                              take a good look at the pic IAH.... you under that law of moses...sigh

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                              • #30
                                The Light, WHO and what is it?

                                Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                                I am free, and it was by MY Saviour's intercession over me that did the work. I am His workmanship.
                                Moses was a victim of incest [if he ever existed and was not made up character from the elite]
                                Yeshua's MY SAVIOUR not MOSES.
                                I stay with what works.

                                I hope one day you will see the difference.
                                If I had of prayed to Moses, I would have still been in the mess I was in...you sound like those RC victims who are told to pray to mother Mary with their rosary beads.

                                and as for my sins, the blood of the lamb washed them all away.
                                How come you don't know this?

                                are you sad you never lived under the law of moses....???

                                to put you on the straight and narrow here IAH
                                what will purify us from sin?

                                but if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus, his Son, purifies us from all sin. -1 John 1:7

                                not a jolly blip from Moses....
                                why not reconsider.....
                                what does the job and the divine impact that is well worthwhile to dwell within.

                                I do believe you have taken a wrong turn here.....
                                what made you swallow Herbert Armstrong's belief, was he so powerfull an angel of light you believed him?
                                Yeshua said DONT FOLLOW A STRANGER.

                                DARE I ASK how come you find 613 laws a delight?
                                remember if you break one you break them all.
                                don't you know in 70 ad the whole system was destroyed?

                                http://www.zengardner.com/matrix-con...manifestation/
                                take a good look at the pic IAH.... you under that law of moses...sigh
                                Here below are the KEY WORDS Lucy, in 1 John 1:7.

                                but if we walk in the light, as he/Messiah is in the light

                                Well, what and Who is the LIGHT according to the scriptures??

                                John also wrote:The same came for a witness, to bear witness of the Light, that all men through him might believe. John 1:7

                                Messiah said: Then spake Yah-Shua again unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in darkness, but shall have the light of life. John 8:12.

                                Messiah also said:As long as I am in the world, I am the light of the world. John 9:5.

                                Which old testament scriptures is Messiah and the apostle John referring to above?

                                O house of Jacob, come ye, and let us walk in the light of the LORD (YAHWEH). Isaiah 2:5.

                                For the commandments is a lamp; and the law is a light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life: Proverbs 6:23.

                                To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. Isaiah 8:20.

                                Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path. Psalms 119:105.

                                Bind up the testimony, seal the law among my disciples. Isaiah 8:20.

                                So, Lucy, are YOU really walking in the LIGHT OF YAHWEH, and His laws?

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