salvation = has to be a divine reality HERE....... to escape from all bondages

[Eliyah]

Lucy, where are the laws of Elohim called the law of vanity in the new testament?

Hebrews 8:10 says... For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

Hebrews 10:16 says...This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; See also Jeremiah 31:31-33.

Lucy, what is THE INCORRUPTIBLE SEED to be born of???

Peter said in 1 Peter 1:23: Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of Elohim, which liveth and abideth for ever.

Make note Lucy, the apostle Peter said, that the word of Elohim is incorruptible seed. So the word of Elohim is NOT corrupted either.

Messiah said in a parable : Now the parable is this: The seed is the word of Elohim. Those by the way side are they that hear (the word of Elohim); then cometh the devil, and taketh away the word (of Elohim) out of their hearts, lest they should believe and be saved.

They on the rock are they, which, when they hear, receive the word (of Elohim) with joy; and these have no root, which for a while believe, and in time of temptation fall away.

And that which fell among thorns are they, which, when they have heard (the word of Elohim), go forth, and are choked with cares and riches and pleasures of this life, and bring no fruit to perfection.

But that on the good ground are they, which in an honest and good heart, having heard the word (of Elohim), keep it, and bring forth fruit with patience. Luke 8:11-15; See also Matthew 13:18-23.

Make note Lucy, those who do NOT do or obey the word of Elohim, they bring no fruit to perfection.

What else is the gospel or mystery of the kingdom Lucy?

Messiah said:And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of Elohim: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables:... The sower soweth the word (of the kingdom). And these are they by the way side, where the word (of the kingdom) is sown; but when they have heard, Satan cometh immediately, and taketh away the word (of the kingdom) that was sown in their hearts.

And these are they likewise which are sown on stony ground; who, when they have heard the word (of the kingdom), immediately receive it with gladness And have no root in themselves, and so endure but for a time: afterward, when affliction or persecution ariseth for the word's sake, immediately they are offended.

And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word (of the kingdom), And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful.

And these are they which are sown on good ground; such as hear the word (of the kingdom), and receive it, and bring forth fruit, some thirtyfold, some sixty, and some an hundred. Mark 4:14-20.

Make note Lucy, the word of the kingdom, and the word of Elohim are the ONE and the same, and those who obey and do THE WORD, are those who bring forth FRUIT.

So Lucy, is it not doing the word of Elohim that brings forth good fruit? Lucy, do you believe these red words ABOVE of the true Messiah?

[LucySmith]

to escape our bondages [ as captives] we are to be UNPLUGGED from a system

Of failures, myths and traditional fantasies and LEARN HOW TO SEEK OUT THE TRUTH AND LOVE IT....
Now I do realise good people don't wish to be moved out from their comfort zones of religious traditional belief and it hurts the ego to think one has been duped by a tool in Father's hand.

Again the bible is not a library book telling us the truth and the churches a re not holy and contain the truth THEREFORE IT IS UP TO PERSONAL SEEKING and divine wisdom impartation to BE REMOVED FROM DEATH INTO ZOE ETERNAL LIFE.

Here is a site with a comparison of listed events in the OT.
It is very comprehensive and when you view it you see for yourself, the abuses and excuses given.
It is up to you to compare.

http://www.thegodmurders.com/

if you are godly you will compare with an honest and pure heart!!!!
and
don't make excuses for evil to florish!!!

next...
ALWAYS REMEMBER the HOLY SPIRIT IS LOVE AND JOY AND PEACE and when these 3 elements of the divine nature are not present KNOW immediately.... evil is.....

Many will continue to have their 'heads in the sand' and drink DENIAL JUICES thru a straw and make all manner of excuses for Barbaric acts against powerless men

barbaric


/bɑːˈbarɪk/


adjective

adjective: barbaric
savagely cruel.
"he carried out barbaric acts in the name of war"
synonyms: brutal, barbarous, brutish, bestial, savage, vicious, fierce, ferocious, wicked, cruel, nasty, ruthless, remorseless, merciless, villainous, murderous, heinous, nefarious, monstrous, base, low, low-down, vile, inhuman, infernal, dark, black, black-hearted, fiendish, hellish, diabolical, ghastly, horrible
"the regime's barbaric crimes were exposed after the war was over
primitive; unsophisticated.
"the barbaric splendour he found in civilizations since destroyed"

synonyms: savage, barbarian, barbarous, primitive, heathen, wild, brutish, Neanderthal; More
thuggish, loutish;
uncouth, coarse, rough, boorish, oafish, vulga

•uncivilized and uncultured.

Personally I do believe it is wrong to pretend THE HOLY SPIRIT CREATES DEATH, when satan held the keys to death!!!!
This means he had authority to destroy and murder humans,
Yeshua TOOK THOSE KEYS BACK AND HAS THEM NOW,!!! yet this world is still ruled over by death?

why?

I.G.N.O.R.A.N.C.E. is the killer we are told

My people perish from lack of knowledge and too come out from all Babylonian ministry

UNBELIEF IS ALSO A KILLER.
YESHUA CANNOT WORK WHERE UNBELIEF IS.

The OT is filled with men and women birthed out from incest relationship and this reproduces bad blood and mental illness and deformities, how can we even begin to believe anything from the lips of such people.

But it is all up too you this is your life not mine!!!!

''THEY OVERCAME satan by the BLOOD OF THE LAMB, [ the cross and its finished work, making satan a defeated foe]
BY THE WORDS OF THEIR TESIMONY [ not a lip server but a ZOE LIFE WALKER]
AND LOVONG NOT THEIR LIVES UNTO DEATH [ counting the cost and daily picking up their cross = meaning - to learn how to do and say like Yeshua '' SATAN YOU HAVE NOTHING ON ME'']

Another reason why bibles are not reliable is because of the Old Testament manuscripts that bibles are translated from.



Corrupted Manuscripts

The Old Testament found in bibles today is not even translated from the original Hebrew texts! They are translated from the Masoretic Hebrew texts (from the 8th-10th century AD), not the original Hebrew texts. By the time bibles came around (in the 15th century), the original Hebrew had been lost, both the manuscripts and the language. There is not a man alive today who knows how to pronounce or read the original Hebrew language.

Around the 8th-10th century AD, the Masorites took the liberty within themselves to add vowel signs to the original Hebrew Alphabet. The original Hebrew alphabet had only 22 letters and had no vowels. This 10th century manuscript is what all bibles base their Old Testament translations on.

[LucySmith]

Salvation.... What is it exactly.

the disciplines that remove all former slavish flawed thinking into THE TRUTH of divine thinking...
to be freed from our personal curses and demonic dominations
and
BE set FREE from all human limitations, IN CHRIST [ the power verb for anointing that breaks our slavish yokes]

the process begins with repentance
ie. '' to turn away from and to turn around too''....
to turn away from the matrix/vanity thinking we are so used to and TURN to a new way of thinking, that removes our FALLEN D.N.A. system]

when you look into your mirror, you see a human figure, yet this is only a MUD BODY because the REAL ME is spirit and I am having a human experience.
the inside spirit has to COME OUT and be DISPLAYED [ Math 17 v 1-4 - as a light being] by the teachings of YESHUA.
the TEACHING OF YESHUA, opens up our true spiritual man inside and MAKES him APPEAR AS A DOMINATE PARTNER... a spiritual being IN A human body [ the likeness of the Saviour]

the MUD BODY contains a deceived soul called Eve'' in men and women.
the MUD BODY wants to remain in control by being very religious and self improving and doing good works and all manner of religious trappings and laws.[ all come under the heading of self righteousness]
the MUD BODY, has a hard time with conversion, for it is saying to the deceived soul ''SHUT UP, BE QUIET, DO AS YOURة TOLD''
the MUD BODY, has to be OVERCOME, so the spiritual man can appear [ as he did in the Saviour]
the MUD BODY, always works on the premise of ''seeing in believing'' and simply cannot walk by the same faith as the Son of God.
the MUD BODY, has to learn to walk by faith and not by sight.
the MUD BODY, hates this discipline, and will do anything to circumvent this holy processing.[ hence the Saviour's true comment '' few find eternal life'']
the MUD BODY, will find all manner of sin and lies and lust extremely attractive.
the MUD BODY, needs to DIE, UPON ITS CROSS, by submitting to the MAN SPIRIT WITHIN. amen [very few souls can do this]
the MUD BODY, IS TRAINED UP enchristed, to be a LIGHT BODY OF NEW LIFE here.

nothing shall accomplish this task, but the teaching of the Saviour and His gospel.
this teaching has NOTHING TO DO WITH ANY ''ORDINANCES OR DOCTRINES the religious have all lined up to do.''
His teaching is on HOW TO BE SET FREE FROM ALL PERSONAL BONDAGES, SLAVISH HABITS, AND CARNAL THINKING.

His holy perfect standard becomes engrafted into our lives and our former indoctrinations to the matrix removed.
His holy perfect standard becomes engrafted into our lives and our former mindset and ways of thinking removed.
His holy perfect standard becomes engrafted into our lives by His mercy and favour and love towards us.
His holy perfect standard becomes engrafted into our lives by our full submission to his advice no matter what we see do or feel about it.

FULL SURRENDER OF OUR MINDS TO BE FORMED INTO HIS DIVINE MIND.

the sad fact is most people are religious stupid, they follow others rather than do personal seeking, like sheep they rush to their slaughter.
the sad fact is most people are bound by a RELIGIOUS CULTure and have their own pet beliefs that kill them in the end,
the WORD.......S.U.R.R.E.N.D.E.R. is the best way to describe a disciple under the lordship of their Saviour.

I must say, I HATE RELIGION it makes me vomit!!!!
CHURCH RELIGION especially
or
ANY TYPE OF IT men believe in this world - is rat poison to me.
consider........

Yeshua doesn’t say much about sin and sinners,
which is a tremendous contrast to the O.T. the N.T. Pharisees, and to the emphasis on ‘sin’ and ‘sinners’ among many believers today.
Yeshua is not so much interested in petty definitions of sin and how to solve it but in people having richer lives here and being freed here.
Yeshua is about people—not rules.
He relieves us of our burdens of guilt and alienation rather than judging us.
those under the law of Moses to the jews are sin conscious and forever tormented by their ugly sins.

[LucySmith]

the pauline styled church keeps the pews in bondage

why?
because it is not one shepherd and one flock .... but many voices of many strangers.

something to think about
saul /paul declared he was as MASTER BUILDER - a real clue to his ancient secret society MASONIC ROOTS

= this attracts the same kind of person.
can we prove this is so.....and always has been


CAN THE MASONIC THREAD come right through up the church teaching into the present
YES


bingo~~~~~~

http://olivetjournal.com/false-ministries-2-occult-hand-signs/

http://olivetjournal.com/false-ministries-2-occult-hand-signs-part-2/

the MASTERBUILDER... has to have a line of corruption flow right through the Pauline style system and so few will '''see'' this red flag- ''warning will robinson''
the voice of a 33deg. mason

http://www.voiceofjesus.org/m/billygrahamvsjesus.html

not too many souls wish to take up their cross....
the cross is simply the choice of belief or unbelief.

[LucySmith]

dear spying i do believe your prblem lays in this fact

to stop sinning and live and remain, transformed into a spiritual warrior and friend to Yeshua~~
''BE YE PERFECT [MATURED AND COMPLETED] AS I AM PERFECT''

''BE HOLY AS I AM HOLY''

lovely words~~~ and even better if reproduced with our soul amen

These verses are not put there for Saturday Sabbath keepers for they are not perfect nor holy. which is a shame as they put such effort to be ''good people''

but that is not actually good enough~~~

To attempt to understand this problem we all face sin....
Yeshua said '' of My own self I can do nothing''
Yeshua had to depend upon His Father for all things!!!
[seek ye first the kingdom of God, all else shall be added to you]

so by faith, if I seek His kingdom and He is my Shepherd and I do as He has commanded of me.....how will my sins be dealt with to HIS SATISIFACTION?.
DO YOU KNOW SPYING?

You are devoted to this man saul/paul and you have not as yet had the eyes opened...
that's ok...
it will happen at the right time amen~~~
but at the moment saul/paul has soul-tied you from his grave.
herein lies your problem... from sitting at the feet of Pauline churchianity you have been zapped into grave error [ notice the word grave laddy]

The Original Saints believed and taught that you MUST come clean with God in Repentance BEFORE the Holy Spirit would indwell.
No one was 'Saved' in sin or did any early Saint teach that man was Born in Sin.

They understood that man possessed free and unhindered ability to Obey God and DO what was Right.
Most of professing Christianity today is under a massive System of Error that has negated genuine repentance and substituted it with a wretched man profession that keeps them in slavery to their sin.
This error of pauline system of church needs exposing and pulling down the Strongholds so others may come to a Knowledge of the truth and escape the snare of the devil before it's too late.

do you understand this concept of ''O WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM''
the author of original sin.[ grave error] AND YOU END UP IN THE GRAVE IF YOU BELIEVE THIS ERROR.

Why are you kept in slavery to your sins, thinking your saturday idleness will redeem you when it never has TO OTHERS for thousands of years
''it is insanity to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result.''

this confused theory of Pauline church are erased when YESHUA becomes our Teacher.

The Preparation of the heart belongs to man: a man has to be clean in his own heart
Proverbs 16:1

Biblically, its simply “repentance”,
is
the clearing the heart of guile and pride in a season of godly sorrow, forsaking all known sin with sincerity, and sanctifying oneself from the world;
Yes, its that simple, being transformed from the old man of sin to the new man of righteousness in the baptism of repentance.
That ye might sanctify and cleanse the heart and mind with the washing of water by the word and the renewing of the soul, receiving the NT empowerment (Grace) of the Holy Spirit, walking upright according to the Spirit thoroughly furnished unto good works! Amazingly simple,
Yes?

I realised Pauline churchianity keeps people IN BONDAGE to their sins. [ a sin mentality]
Now look at what Yeshua says in Rev 3


The most miserable people on the face of the earth are those caught up in the false Church System under the Strong Delusion of doctrines that absolves them of their human responsibility to come clean with God and walk in a morally upright manner as His followers.
They conceal their misery well in a pious ‘form of godliness, pretending they have a firm persuasion of trust in the finished work of Christ and that ‘obeying Him is NOT making any effort to repent and stop sinning, but ‘believing that the sufficiency of His Grace has you covered.
that’s why they will hide behind such nonsensical platitudes

let's get real Spying~~~~~
The problem is not preaching repentance; it is giving a wrong definition to the word.
When we believe on Yeshua , we do repent,
We change our mind about unbelief to belief in Christ.
Turning from sin is a work.
So you believe in a works based salvation, by telling the lost to repent from their sins.
The ones that have obeyed Him are those that have received the message of mercy and favour, and not those who made some efforts to stop sinning.
The problem is not preaching repentance; it is giving a wrong definition to the word.
Let’s look at this logically, if that’s even possible.
This is the Ultimate bondage and has brought more people to ruin and misery than anyone could know.
They are trapped between a rock and hard place.
if they actually make an effort to Stop sinning and do what is Right, they are labeled self-righteous hypocrites and ridiculed by their professing Christian friends.
If they continue in sin (as usual) they are constantly assured Grace has them covered.

So there’s no incentive or motivation to ever do anything to please God because it has no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of your Salvation.
Thus they are ensnared in the '‘Wretched man and filthy rags'' cycle of ''doing things in the Church'' but ‘Doing nothing toward ‘cleaning up your act and walking morally upright.


What they have done by building a gospel around ‘believing and not doing’, is ‘Judged themselves unworthy of eternal life’ (Acts13:46)
Our Duty to Obey God is not trying to be Justified by the: ‘works of the law’, its doing what He has asked us to do based on our ability to DO IT.
To say such things as ‘The ones that have obeyed Him are those that have received the message of great favour, and not those who made some efforts to stop sinning’ is DISOBEYING Him and the Gospel.
We are to do what it is our DUTY to do! (because we are able to do it!)

do you know how to stop sinning?

When we believe on Yeshua , we do repent,
8 enormous words.
8 words that bring forth new creation life
8 words the Ekklesia live in
8 words of life.

what is the Christ verb.... the core..... the message...B.E.L.I.E.V.E.
and hey man, it never passive just in the head as a thought.

[LucySmith]

ofcourse Spying there is a way

to stop sinning and live and remain, transformed into a spiritual warrior and friend to Yeshua~~
''BE YE PERFECT [MATURED AND COMPLETED] AS I AM PERFECT''

''BE HOLY AS I AM HOLY''

lovely words~~~ and even better if reproduced with our soul amen

These verses are not put there for Saturday Sabbath keepers for they are not perfect nor holy. which is a shame as they put such effort to be ''good people''

but that is not actually good enough~~~

To attempt to understand this problem we all face sin....
Yeshua said '' of My own self I can do nothing''
Yeshua had to depend upon His Father for all things!!!
[seek ye first the kingdom of God, all else shall be added to you]

so by faith, if I seek His kingdom and He is my Shepherd and I do as He has commanded of me.....how will my sins be dealt with to HIS SATISIFACTION?.
DO YOU KNOW SPYING?

[Eliyah]

and exit from the indoctrinations of Armstrongism
please do~~

~Firstly I am not a jewish.
the law of Moses was given to the Jews only. It was part of their laws 613 infact
Do you keep them?
Do you know them?
Do you look them up and keep a list to make sure your'e obedient to all....
If you keep one, you MUST KEEP ALL.... mess up... your'e history - don't you know this?
No man could keep all.
How do you feel about this?
Millions and millions have tried this religious formula so what makes you think sin will be removed from you, when it failed in all other religious people in the past.
[I confess, I like my belief to work, to manifest out in a substance I know is divine and not from me or my self effort]

Let us consider together the real problems of sin
toss out misconceptions and reconsider our options....

the Saturday Sabbath.
Was a day set aside to remember the Hebrews slavery in Egypt and their marvellous deliverances. to meditate on these things and the acts of God.
Ofcourse they too kept this Saturday Sabbath, but also they all died too.

Just as the SDA [ellen whites and co, invention of ''hey lets keep the Saturday Sabbath'' in 1800's] all die from their sin too.

Doesnt seem to actually work this Sabbath keeping for anyone.
Do you know 2/3 witnesses of Sabbath keeping over 200yrs only approx.
Doesn't make anyone super holy either.
No one can self help themselves to stop sins.

not eating pork will not stop sin
attending Saturday service will not stop sin
saying G-D or writing His name this way will not stop sin

Tis a real problem.
Is there an answer to our plight
Yes~~~~

if saturday Sabbath services don't work
what does work?

do you know.?

I don't like scripture verses to prove a point
I love THE SCRIPTURE TO BECOME me and my life in my daily living

Really? How can the scriptures become YOU in your daily life, when YOU don't even believe the scriptures presented to YOU, and when YOU will NOT even accept the scriptures that is presented to YOU, and even Messiah's own red words presented to YOU too?

Also, please show everyone where Messiah taught Gentiles differently than the Jews of His day??

[LucySmith]

hello friend spying...i hope you will begin to understand....

and exit from the indoctrinations of Armstrongism
please do~~

~Firstly I am not a jewish.
the law of Moses was given to the Jews only. It was part of their laws 613 infact
Do you keep them?
Do you know them?
Do you look them up and keep a list to make sure your'e obedient to all....
If you keep one, you MUST KEEP ALL.... mess up... your'e history - don't you know this?
No man could keep all.
How do you feel about this?
Millions and millions have tried this religious formula so what makes you think sin will be removed from you, when it failed in all other religious people in the past.
[I confess, I like my belief to work, to manifest out in a substance I know is divine and not from me or my self effort]

Let us consider together the real problems of sin
toss out misconceptions and reconsider our options....

the Saturday Sabbath.
Was a day set aside to remember the Hebrews slavery in Egypt and their marvellous deliverances. to meditate on these things and the acts of God.
Ofcourse they too kept this Saturday Sabbath, but also they all died too.

Just as the SDA [ellen whites and co, invention of ''hey lets keep the Saturday Sabbath'' in 1800's] all die from their sin too.

Doesnt seem to actually work this Sabbath keeping for anyone.
Do you know 2/3 witnesses of Sabbath keeping over 200yrs only approx.
Doesn't make anyone super holy either.
No one can self help themselves to stop sins.

not eating pork will not stop sin
attending Saturday service will not stop sin
saying G-D or writing His name this way will not stop sin

Tis a real problem.
Is there an answer to our plight
Yes~~~~

if saturday Sabbath services don't work
what does work?

do you know.?

I don't like scripture verses to prove a point
I love THE SCRIPTURE TO BECOME me and my life in my daily living

[Spying]

Escaping From Sin!

Hi Lucy,

Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

Messiah Yahushua said this:

John 8:34

34 Yahushua answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

Sin is defined by the Apostle John as anomia, that is, activity that is against the Law of YAHWEH ELOHIM. Physical Sabbath Breaking is against the commandment of YAHWEH ELOHIM. If you yourself and your family are in slavery to this sin, that is, you all do fully engage in work on the Sabbath Day, then please explain to me and to others how it is that you have become free of this sin or how it is that you and your family are no longer a servant to the sin of Sabbath Breaking?

Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,

Sincerely, Latuwr

[LucySmith]

IF, you mean business with holy divine Father

He will make sure YOU BECOME HIS WORMANSHIP because ''seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all else shall be added unto you'' amen
THE ALL ELSE means in part being taken out from religious deceptions, being healed of all former demonic burdens and knowing how to overcome and defeat the last enemy called death~~~~PASSOVER~~it is termed.
He will make a ''covenant of salt'' with you and sit down and sup with you daily amen.
also He will provide every need and make very sure you walk by faith and become FAITHFULL to His word.

BTW it has nothing to do with church doctrines and nothing to do with keeping a Saturday of idolness thinking you are special and holy.
what it has to do with is.....getting rid of all our enemies, being sinless and walk into HIS PERFECTION and not one person ever did this from any form of religions.
how?
by having HIM AS OUR HIGH PRIEST.
THE GOSPEL is written in the will of the Father and the highest love frequency, and so when obeyed + daily taken in, the whole DNA system is reversed back into the divine blueprint
our spirit quickens and awakens, our soul begins to submit to the Word, and our body progressively become LIGHT AND TRANSFORMED. here.
''who Is this'' is formed as a born again new breed human/divine person.
self help
all forms of religion
self regulation
weird doctrines
law of moses to the jews only
Will never accomplish what is needed and vital to our divine eternal life transformation.
The unregenerated people, thinking they are right will fight tooth and nail, to stop the gospel EXPLOSION of the truth.
There is no other way to leave vanity and all its deadly rulership than TO HAVE YESHUA AS LORD OF ALL within our heart.

the REAL MAN WITHIN has to become ALIVE AND MOVE INTO RULERSHIP AND THIS BEING IS A MIGHTY GLORIOUS SUPER HERO OF DIVINE ESSENCES.

With true training up into perfection by the Saviour, this person BECOMES UNLIMITED in authority and power of the Most high
sometime into the divine training programme you will begin to notice divine MANIFESTIONS in spirit soul and body, yes, small at first by ever growing at an accelerated rate as holy faith is fully developed and its ''substances'' appears as our reality.

One lesson hard to learn is the divesting of all false religions, values, doctrines and creeds - ofcourse this is never easy to give up all false security blankets that have death woven into them
most people sad to say cannot do this, as ''they do what is right In their own eyes''
this is the way of A CULLING the lips servers from the truth seekers, and faith walkers

when you tell others of your experiences and tests they get angry and call you names because the truth is hated,.and so these people cannot handle the truth to be freed.
Your religion cannot fool Father, as He sees WHAT FREQUENCY wave you are upon... some 30 some 60 some 100 fold.

culling.....
separating

[LucySmith]

compare ''sitting at the feet of Yeshua'' - the prince of peace ministry~~~~

His divine advice hewn into the divine and holly life frequency to lift his people OUT FROM ALL VANITY WHEN OBEYED....
''love thy neighbour as thyself'' and actually manifested out these divine kingdom qualities~~~
to
''others ministry'' of the ''Christian kind'' based upon angels of light declare war.
Love thy enemy.?
Far from it,
infact the total opposite therefore the dark mass frequency of vanity remains.
Can anyone help to explain why this church history of Christian violence should matter to all of us.

is it possible to explain?
ofcourse~~~ it stems from the Pauline ''my ''gospel.... AND THIS WAS INVENTED by a person who murdered and killed others.
the indwelling demons coming out from a Pharisee [ a nest of vipers] was never delivered from by the Saviour, and so when the pews sit at the feet of paul/saul they too suffer a murderous life.
how?
Well they accept ''death as a friend'' and ''legalised murder'' for their nations as an assess to their governments.
They even have'' chaplins'' for their armed forces religious beliefs and prayers for their victories - was this really the ideal living in the life abundant the Saviour foresaw?

''My Peace I leave with you said the prince of Peace'' amen
Do you think there would be ''peace'' inside the vets and their programmed to kill mindset?

saul/paul gospel did this to generations of people.
the mark of dark evil frequency surrounds and pollutes these poor men and women of vanity~the killing machines...legal murderers.... coming out from that 1 soul they sat under the Pauline church system.
yet, he does write about peace....too... to be fair~~~

treatmentsolutions.com
Sometimes we feel helpless when it comes to acknowledging our thanks to the men and women in the armed services that have served in combat to protect our country.
We might even wonder what we can do to give our support to these troops, or how we can help them out.
One thing the government and veterans would suggest is to help find a way to end the long-term effects of war on the minds of soldiers.
One way to do this is to provide more mental health professionals to help with the issues service members deal with every day.

Mental Ailments Increasing
War veterans and those still in the service often suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), substance abuse, depression, and thoughts of suicide.
Statistics for these problems have worsened in recent years, and there are those who are pushing for solutions to these problems.

It is estimated that one third of veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan have mental health problems.
Many of these individuals end up turning to drugs and alcohol to silence their pain.
Returning service members often have a hard time integrating back into life in America with their families, and even those with a good support system can find themselves overcome by substance abuse and suicide.

the fruit inspection proves the Gospel and its Prince of Peace is non existent to the majority

edification>>>Jesus is called The Prince of Peace, but his followers have been involved in Religious wars for nearly two thousand years. They've led crusades, inquisitions, pogroms, imperialistic conquests and holocausts.The Catholics and Protestants have been killing each other since the 16th Century, and continue unabated to this day in Northern Ireland. The only Nuclear Bombs ever to be used in war were first blessed by Christian ministers. Today as I write American soldiers are in the Middle East under a Christian president who said God told him to invade Iraq.

Jesus said many people thru the ages would claim to be his followers but would actually be the followers of Satan. He called them Wolves in Sheep's clothing.

It is my belief that those Christians who have slaughtered and killed in Jesus name were pretenders, for Jesus neither authorized violence, nor desired it, but most vehemently spoke against any use of force. He said a tree is known by it's fruit, and he said you would be able to know his true disciples by their LOVE.

Did you know there are more scriptures about peace than salvation in the New Testament?

During the first 300 years of the Christian Church all of her leaders said the use of violence, and serving in the military, or police forces, was a sin.

I am always stunned to meet people claiming to be Christians who believe that military service, or police work, is acceptable to God. There are over 50 Scriptures in the New Testament stating that Christian are never to use violence. Look at them for yourself. The quotes in Yellow are the very words of Jesus. http://www.robertroberg.com/writings/war.html

Who penned such ''advice'' to be followed = was it Yeshua?
no~~~~

[LucySmith]

these verse should hit you straight in the face and give you a black eye

"...you tried those pretending to be apostles, and are not, and have found them liars"

(Revelation 2:2).
again let this slam you in the face~~~~~

The trial of those who pretended to be apostles is listed among the positive actions of the Ephesian Church, which pleased the Messiah

Be fully aware that we are living in a day when many of God's children fail to understand the difference between
testing and
judgment,
discernment and
criticism,
and view all speech and writing of a negative nature as critical and destructive.

This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception

*MESSIAH, was delighted these souls HERE that they could discern the false apostles and pretenders!
THE CHURCH POLICE - fail in true judgments, fail in true discernments, they resist reform~~~~because by being under satanic soul ties, their work is ~~~ that ~~~~''the truth cannot escape from their religious boxes''
yet
it is so sad to behold, once a disciple enters into the divine Ekklesia something happens to their soul.
something so wonderful, words cannot tell of this divine manifestation of the birthing out of a divine super hero of faith~~~~

Father will go to no ends of trouble to teach HIS DISCIPLES their divine majesty and great dignity as a HUGE SPIRITUAL BEING, FILLED WITH LIGHT AND LIFE AS HIS CHILD.
THE DIVINE DOOR OPENS '' come up hither'' is announced over them and THEY LEARN TO ARISE OVER ALL THE POWER SO THEIR ENEMIES. amen


Math 17 v 1-
Yeshua displayed Himself and said
'' LOOK AT ME''
''FOLLOW ME;''
''BECOME THIS IMAGE OF ME'' please... do it~~~~

but who can stand in such glory divine?
few

I would like to restate this truth about the church police and their plan of action~~~~
This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception
This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception
This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception
This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception

do you understand these church police now?

enforced by those in control that resists reform
enforced by those in control that resists reform
enforced by those in control that resists reform

What is not generally known is when YESHUA WAS BORN.... SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ''TIME /SPACE'' [this world was not the same ]
He entered time and space that a predestination occurred.
How so?
Because from that point on, choices for or against would be made by FREE WILL.
The Saviour knew WHO, WHAT AND WHEN concerning it all, and thus by their individual choices for or against Yeshua they pre-destinated THEMSELVES to eternal ruin or eternal life.

the church police seek our eternal ruin~~~~~yet it is themselves who fall into the trap
THE FUTURE KNOWS, all is VANITY, and those who hate Yeshua and His gospel cannot and will not ever see their glorious kingdom come into being.
It will be ripped away from them in an instant of time.
All of their dreams will come to naught.
All of their attempts to change the future of the Messiah's gospel are total and complete vanity, a total waste of time and effort.

[LucySmith]

Where there is life eternal, there is a divine throb

OF TRANSFORMATION meaning the very essences of a flawed person is changed into a super divine hero of faith
again
the ? to ask is ''WHO IS THIS?''
THE HOLY CHRIST SPIRIT OF LIFE IS POINTING OUT A PERSON CALLED ''WHO IS THIS''....

WHO IS THIS?
''COMING UP OUT OF THE WILDERNESS [ THIS WORLD OF VANITY/THE MATRIX- LEARNING ON THE ARM OF THE BELOVED''.]~~~~~
who is this?
LEANING
ON
THE
ARM
OF
THE BELOVED~~~~

CAN YOU SEE this person is not leaning on anyone else but the person WHO IS TITLED ''the beloved''.

it is a great romance happening here.
THE BELOVED IS THE TEACHER, WHO BRINGS A PERSON OUT FROM ALL VANITY~~~ ONLY THE BELOVED can do this work amen.
the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~

THERE IS NO other person
NO law,
or
titled clergy
Who can BE YOUR STRENGTH AND TEACH YOU HIS WAYS CORRECTLY so you survive alive and remain here as a LIGHT BEING FILLED WITH ETERNAL zoe never ending and everlasting LIFE~~~
HE never teaches from the law of Moses to the Jews only [as a new direction for His new race under the Gospel]
He never teaches out from Pauline ''my'' gospel.
One folded up in 70ad having been fulfilled and the generation failed to discern their divine visitation.
[ fulfilled means to complete, to finish off,]
The other is yet ''to be fallen'' and now in the fatal throws of religious death march.

How interesting to wonder.
That the very pauline system invented and then promoted- to fail the true GOSPEL- ends up itself a failure and fallen ~~~

Father always knows the future. consider this~~~
The book of Revelation, Yeshua is walking in the midst of the seven golden lamp stands, which represented the churches of Asia Minor.
Among the few positive things that He said to them are the following words to the church at Ephesus,

"...you tried those pretending to be apostles, and are not, and have found them liars" (Revelation 2:2).

The trial of those who pretended to be apostles is listed among the positive actions of the Ephesian Church, which pleased the Messiah
Be fully aware that we are living in a day when many of God's children fail to understand the difference between
testing and
judgment,
discernment and
criticism,
and view all speech and writing of a negative nature as critical and destructive.

This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception

[LucySmith]

who is this? indeed

The Pauline system was determined to ALTER THE f.u.t.u.r.e. THE SAVIOUR'S GOSPEL and the ministry of salvation from the Gospel.
The Pauline system worked under ''my gospel'' that fails to reproduce ETERNAL LIFE with the pews, because saul/paul had NO ETERNAL LIFE WITHIN HIMSELF.
[ HE WAS A MURDERER and so dying and murder go hand in hand with ;;my;; gospel ministry.]

ASK how many people have died and been killed off under Pauline churchianity~~~~
Would billions be too high or not high enough
hmm????

Again to explain more and how it works...
Math 11 v 24/25/26
Yeshua is teaching MARTHA [a friend and a woman under the law of Moses to the Jew only.]
She has her belief from this law and is comfortable in it.!!

YET
YESHUA TOLD OF HIS BELIEF...
and of Martha's sister Mary WHO SAT AT THE FEET OF THE SAVIOUR AND DID A ''BETTER THING'' [in his words.]

a ''BETTER THING'' notice was not from the law of Moses [AS MARTHA KNEW OF]...
but
By learning the teaching by SITTING AT HIS FEET ONLY.

THEREIN IS THE DIFFERENCE~~~~~

Yet FATHER KNEW THE FUTURE and the construct of the law of Moses to the Jews only and of the Pauline gospel and how both would end~~~~~
70ad
and
''Babylon has fallen''

The 2 failed system deleted yet were used for a purpose~~~~~

The law of Moses to the Jews only was ''life by obedience to it''... yet no man could keep 613 laws and remain alive IN LIFE.
A system to show up the flawed nature within man,

The Pauline gospel, is without the essence of eternal life and fails to reproduce eternal life - both are synagogues~~~
The words saul/paul uses have NO divine love frequency within them and so FAIL TO REPRODUCE A DIVINE LOVE FREQUENCY with his pews.
Notice the Christian community/nations are all war like and agrees with legalised killing.
How many die because of Christian nations waring against them?
See a MURDERER NEVER CHANGES HIS SPOTS.
His fruit is murder and dying deaths.

PLEASE NOTICE 1 THING re saul/paul.
HE NEVER ONCE used the 1 commandment AS AN INSTRUCTION AND A BELIEF.
yes
He only uses the 2nd command of ''loving the neighbour''.

HE HAD A MASSIVE PROBLEM OF LOVING GOD OUR FATHER ABBA,

No matter how hard satan tried no man can alter ABBA;S future~~~

[LucySmith]

now too...Gestation of a Superhero...[enchristed]

The Gestation of a Superhero
what is this?
who is this?

A light being
A life being~~~
Made into the image of Christ - the power activation verb for all Gestating Superheros amen.~~~~
A amazing new reed of human/divine.~~~

Hand made by Yeshua
Breathed upon and brooded over by the holy spirit of live forever more~~~~
Did not notice, Yeshua only, is the super hero's teacher not strangers nor others


YESHUA IS THE WAY INTO LIFE
not others
not strangers
LIFE CONTAINS LIFE and no death remains within.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.

NO OTHERS
NO STRANGER
they are not life~~~~~those without eternal life cannot teach eternal life.
this is why all Pauline Christian beliefs fail to produce eternal life within the pews

Made into the image of Christ - the power activation verb for all Gestating Superheros amen.~~~~
A amazing new reed of human/divine.~~~

REALLY here???? yes indeed.
WHO IS THIS?

now we getting Brighter and our ignorance is fading....
will the church police arrive in the nick of time???? to play their games of smoke and mirrors?