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  • salvation = has to be a divine reality HERE....... to escape from all bondages

    Most religious people cannot abide in the Truth!
    THE TRUTH, is the PERSON Yeshua.
    the TRUTH MAN IS HATED.~~~~~ once the truth is exposed, the religious rats run back into their holes.
    why?
    the light is too strong and they love their darkness~~~

    On this prison planet there is a FORM [a pretense] of GODLINESS, that satisfies the religions of most men.
    each person believes their god and they will one day be in heaven.
    IT IS GROSS INDOCTRINATION

    S.A.L.V.A.T.I.O.N.

    Salvation does not consist of obeying certain laws and getting one doctrine or another correct.
    It is not the science of getting better.
    Salvation is a living thing, and it entails being translated from one world into another world.
    Salvation is being saved from something and delivered into something else.
    Being saved means the chains and bondage are ended.

    By and by, one is brought into new divine realities.
    this is the true description of BIBLE SALVATION~~~~~that sets the CAPTIVES FREE
    * BIBLE SALVATION, does not consist of obeying certain laws -
    * BIBLE SALVATION, is not about one doctrine or another is correct-
    * BIBLE SALVATION, is not the science of getting better-
    *BIBLE SALVATION, is a living thing
    *BIBLE SALVATION, entails, our being translated [removed] from one world into another world
    *BIBLE SALVATION, is being saved from something and DELIVERED INTO SOMETHING ELSE
    being saved, means = ''THE CHAINS TO ALL MY BONDAGES HAVE ENDED'' amen.

    consider a few examples....
    you can tell me how to obey the law of Moses to the Jews only and why I should do this because you do.......
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO THE SIN OF FEAR,
    yet YOU REMAIN BOUND TO THE SIN OF LUST AND PORN
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO SICKNESS AND PILLS AND DOCTORS.
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO ADULTERIES, naturally and spiritually
    ETC ETC
    THEREFORE you talk nice, but you live ugly and bound to the chains of satan and his demons.

    again
    you can tell me how you believe in false apostles and prophets and their words are the truth~~~~ yet I see though this darkness and I don't do as you wish therefore I am deceived.
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO THE FEARS OF FLYING
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO GLUTTONY
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO LYING
    yet, YOU REMAIN BOUND TO THIEVING
    THEREFORE you talk nice but you live ugly and bound to the chains of satan and his demons.


    you see, religious person, you're doctrines your belief means NOTHING to anyone while you live on earth AS A FOOD SUPPLIER for satan and his hoards.


    when Noah was hearing from Father, how to be saved by building the ark, no one listened and all mocked this man YET ONLY 8 SOULS were saved.
    144,000 souls in revelation, are called THE REDEEMED. [ NOT MANY]
    WHAT are the rest of mankind called?

    you see BIBLE SALVATION is about BEING RELEASED from all inside enemies and overcoming the outside ones as well
    A CAPTIVE IS SET FREE.
    are you free.
    no
    you just talk religious~~~~~

    there are many examples of religion at work....
    perhaps this is the grossest, yet, the masses adore.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7o21hyo2Y

  • #2
    this ''religion'' termed ''christian''

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7o21hyo2Y

    comes out from the Pauline confusion of ''unknown tongues''~~~
    the falseness and confusion is rife, in these synagogues of the gentiles, as the carnal flesh wants to exhibit, ''the holy spirit''

    did Yeshua ever have a ministry as this person?
    no
    but this doesn't matter, as long as they get their ''fix'' to their flesh~~~~

    none know they speak in the tongues of demons and demonstrate his ministry out into the world of the ignorant~~~~

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    • #3
      a good definition

      how the world is run by shame~~~~
      have you a claim to shame?
      or

      are you FREE from shame within and without.
      I ask not to offend but to reveal
      that IT IS EASY TO HAVE PIOUS LIPS and ''look at me I believe correctly and you dont'' attitude and remain ENCASED IN ALL MANNER OF SATANIC BONDAGES and a food fest for all those lusts and uglies inside YOU~~~~

      the bondages are too great to be healed and all manner of religion CANNOT BE THE DELIVERER
      yes, you feel you are right yet remain in bondages to gross shame.
      sin kills
      religion has funerals
      churches under Pauline have funerals
      churches under the law of moses have funerals.

      death rules BECAUSE OF IGNORACES.
      DO YOU KNOW HOW TO ESCAPE.... escape is a word [ex cape].... meaning MANTLE.
      escape the mantle covering called sin/death~~~~
      do you know how?

      is there a way to defeat our enemies
      is their a way to be free?

      YES

      BUT.............................
      It is not found in the Law of Moses to the Jews only
      They all died AND STILL DO
      It is not found in Christianity under a Pauline teaching.
      they all die too.
      sin kills and saul was a murderer.
      [ so few even notice his work ethic...
      as a mark of cain was upon him,
      where was his ''deliverance ever mentioned'' prior to ''conversion''-
      don't allow this truth to get in the way of a great story hey~~~]
      the fruits of such a person is the acceptance of legalised murder by all ''Christian governments'' world wide.


      so~~~
      THE WAY OF ESCAPING [ being removed from vanity and its shroud] is NEVER LIKE THOSE RELIGIOUS PEOPLE SAY.
      why not?
      They are hog tied to those gentile synagoges of satan~~~all bound up in sins.

      I am going to tell you off baby...
      your religion is killing the SPIRIT OF LIFE.~~~~

      THE MOST GLORIOUS LIGHT BEINGS FILLED WITH THE divine LIFE SPIRIT, CANNOT LIVE AND EXIST HERE on religion Christian or otherwise.~~~~~

      Say a big happy smiling hello to the ''Pauline system'' of religion....
      here is his modern day mouthpiece.
      the whore and her daughters all look the same~~~~
      stemming right back to those early days....
      what has changed~~~~~

      https://www.google.com.au/search?q=p...m-LYLgmAXY0K4Q

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      • #4
        now too...Gestation of a Superhero...[enchristed]

        The Gestation of a Superhero
        what is this?
        who is this?

        A light being
        A life being~~~
        Made into the image of Christ - the power activation verb for all Gestating Superheros amen.~~~~
        A amazing new reed of human/divine.~~~

        Hand made by Yeshua
        Breathed upon and brooded over by the holy spirit of live forever more~~~~
        Did not notice, Yeshua only, is the super hero's teacher not strangers nor others


        YESHUA IS THE WAY INTO LIFE
        not others
        not strangers
        LIFE CONTAINS LIFE and no death remains within.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.
        THE TEACHING OF ETERNAL LIFE COMES FROM AN ETERNAL BEING.

        NO OTHERS
        NO STRANGER
        they are not life~~~~~those without eternal life cannot teach eternal life.
        this is why all Pauline Christian beliefs fail to produce eternal life within the pews

        Made into the image of Christ - the power activation verb for all Gestating Superheros amen.~~~~
        A amazing new reed of human/divine.~~~
        REALLY here???? yes indeed.
        WHO IS THIS?

        now we getting Brighter and our ignorance is fading....
        will the church police arrive in the nick of time???? to play their games of smoke and mirrors?

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        • #5
          who is this? indeed

          The Pauline system was determined to ALTER THE f.u.t.u.r.e. THE SAVIOUR'S GOSPEL and the ministry of salvation from the Gospel.
          The Pauline system worked under ''my gospel'' that fails to reproduce ETERNAL LIFE with the pews, because saul/paul had NO ETERNAL LIFE WITHIN HIMSELF.
          [ HE WAS A MURDERER and so dying and murder go hand in hand with ;;my;; gospel ministry.]

          ASK how many people have died and been killed off under Pauline churchianity~~~~
          Would billions be too high or not high enough
          hmm????

          Again to explain more and how it works...
          Math 11 v 24/25/26
          Yeshua is teaching MARTHA [a friend and a woman under the law of Moses to the Jew only.]
          She has her belief from this law and is comfortable in it.!!

          YET
          YESHUA TOLD OF HIS BELIEF...
          and of Martha's sister Mary WHO SAT AT THE FEET OF THE SAVIOUR AND DID A ''BETTER THING'' [in his words.]

          a ''BETTER THING'' notice was not from the law of Moses [AS MARTHA KNEW OF]...
          but
          By learning the teaching by SITTING AT HIS FEET ONLY.

          THEREIN IS THE DIFFERENCE~~~~~

          Yet FATHER KNEW THE FUTURE and the construct of the law of Moses to the Jews only and of the Pauline gospel and how both would end~~~~~
          70ad
          and
          ''Babylon has fallen''

          The 2 failed system deleted yet were used for a purpose~~~~~

          The law of Moses to the Jews only was ''life by obedience to it''... yet no man could keep 613 laws and remain alive IN LIFE.
          A system to show up the flawed nature within man,

          The Pauline gospel, is without the essence of eternal life and fails to reproduce eternal life - both are synagogues~~~
          The words saul/paul uses have NO divine love frequency within them and so FAIL TO REPRODUCE A DIVINE LOVE FREQUENCY with his pews.
          Notice the Christian community/nations are all war like and agrees with legalised killing.
          How many die because of Christian nations waring against them?
          See a MURDERER NEVER CHANGES HIS SPOTS.
          His fruit is murder and dying deaths.

          PLEASE NOTICE 1 THING re saul/paul.
          HE NEVER ONCE used the 1 commandment AS AN INSTRUCTION AND A BELIEF.
          yes
          He only uses the 2nd command of ''loving the neighbour''.

          HE HAD A MASSIVE PROBLEM OF LOVING GOD OUR FATHER ABBA,

          No matter how hard satan tried no man can alter ABBA;S future~~~

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          • #6
            Where there is life eternal, there is a divine throb

            OF TRANSFORMATION meaning the very essences of a flawed person is changed into a super divine hero of faith
            again
            the ? to ask is ''WHO IS THIS?''
            THE HOLY CHRIST SPIRIT OF LIFE IS POINTING OUT A PERSON CALLED ''WHO IS THIS''....

            WHO IS THIS?
            ''COMING UP OUT OF THE WILDERNESS [ THIS WORLD OF VANITY/THE MATRIX- LEARNING ON THE ARM OF THE BELOVED''.]~~~~~
            who is this?
            LEANING
            ON
            THE
            ARM
            OF
            THE BELOVED~~~~

            CAN YOU SEE this person is not leaning on anyone else but the person WHO IS TITLED ''the beloved''.

            it is a great romance happening here.
            THE BELOVED IS THE TEACHER, WHO BRINGS A PERSON OUT FROM ALL VANITY~~~ ONLY THE BELOVED can do this work amen.
            the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
            the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
            the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
            the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~
            the BELOVED teaches a person HOW TO LEAN UPON HIS ARM ONLY [HIS STRENGTH ALONE]~~~

            THERE IS NO other person
            NO law,
            or
            titled clergy
            Who can BE YOUR STRENGTH AND TEACH YOU HIS WAYS CORRECTLY so you survive alive and remain here as a LIGHT BEING FILLED WITH ETERNAL zoe never ending and everlasting LIFE~~~
            HE never teaches from the law of Moses to the Jews only [as a new direction for His new race under the Gospel]
            He never teaches out from Pauline ''my'' gospel.
            One folded up in 70ad having been fulfilled and the generation failed to discern their divine visitation.
            [ fulfilled means to complete, to finish off,]
            The other is yet ''to be fallen'' and now in the fatal throws of religious death march.

            How interesting to wonder.
            That the very pauline system invented and then promoted- to fail the true GOSPEL- ends up itself a failure and fallen ~~~

            Father always knows the future. consider this~~~
            The book of Revelation, Yeshua is walking in the midst of the seven golden lamp stands, which represented the churches of Asia Minor.
            Among the few positive things that He said to them are the following words to the church at Ephesus,
            "...you tried those pretending to be apostles, and are not, and have found them liars" (Revelation 2:2).
            The trial of those who pretended to be apostles is listed among the positive actions of the Ephesian Church, which pleased the Messiah
            Be fully aware that we are living in a day when many of God's children fail to understand the difference between
            testing and
            judgment,
            discernment and
            criticism,
            and view all speech and writing of a negative nature as critical and destructive.

            This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception

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            • #7
              these verse should hit you straight in the face and give you a black eye

              "...you tried those pretending to be apostles, and are not, and have found them liars"
              (Revelation 2:2).
              again let this slam you in the face~~~~~

              The trial of those who pretended to be apostles is listed among the positive actions of the Ephesian Church, which pleased the Messiah

              Be fully aware that we are living in a day when many of God's children fail to understand the difference between
              testing and
              judgment,
              discernment and
              criticism,
              and view all speech and writing of a negative nature as critical and destructive.

              This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception

              *MESSIAH, was delighted these souls HERE that they could discern the false apostles and pretenders!
              THE CHURCH POLICE - fail in true judgments, fail in true discernments, they resist reform~~~~because by being under satanic soul ties, their work is ~~~ that ~~~~''the truth cannot escape from their religious boxes''
              yet
              it is so sad to behold, once a disciple enters into the divine Ekklesia something happens to their soul.
              something so wonderful, words cannot tell of this divine manifestation of the birthing out of a divine super hero of faith~~~~

              Father will go to no ends of trouble to teach HIS DISCIPLES their divine majesty and great dignity as a HUGE SPIRITUAL BEING, FILLED WITH LIGHT AND LIFE AS HIS CHILD.
              THE DIVINE DOOR OPENS '' come up hither'' is announced over them and THEY LEARN TO ARISE OVER ALL THE POWER SO THEIR ENEMIES. amen


              Math 17 v 1-
              Yeshua displayed Himself and said
              '' LOOK AT ME''
              ''FOLLOW ME;''
              ''BECOME THIS IMAGE OF ME'' please... do it~~~~

              but who can stand in such glory divine?
              few

              I would like to restate this truth about the church police and their plan of action~~~~
              This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception
              This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception
              This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception
              This has led to a general no-speak climate enforced by those in control that resists reform and allows unchecked deception

              do you understand these church police now?

              enforced by those in control that resists reform
              enforced by those in control that resists reform
              enforced by those in control that resists reform

              What is not generally known is when YESHUA WAS BORN.... SOMETHING HAPPENED TO ''TIME /SPACE'' [this world was not the same ]
              He entered time and space that a predestination occurred.
              How so?
              Because from that point on, choices for or against would be made by FREE WILL.
              The Saviour knew WHO, WHAT AND WHEN concerning it all, and thus by their individual choices for or against Yeshua they pre-destinated THEMSELVES to eternal ruin or eternal life.

              the church police seek our eternal ruin~~~~~yet it is themselves who fall into the trap
              THE FUTURE KNOWS, all is VANITY, and those who hate Yeshua and His gospel cannot and will not ever see their glorious kingdom come into being.
              It will be ripped away from them in an instant of time.
              All of their dreams will come to naught.
              All of their attempts to change the future of the Messiah's gospel are total and complete vanity, a total waste of time and effort.

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              • #8
                compare ''sitting at the feet of Yeshua'' - the prince of peace ministry~~~~

                His divine advice hewn into the divine and holly life frequency to lift his people OUT FROM ALL VANITY WHEN OBEYED....
                ''love thy neighbour as thyself'' and actually manifested out these divine kingdom qualities~~~
                to
                ''others ministry'' of the ''Christian kind'' based upon angels of light declare war.
                Love thy enemy.?
                Far from it,
                infact the total opposite therefore the dark mass frequency of vanity remains.
                Can anyone help to explain why this church history of Christian violence should matter to all of us.

                is it possible to explain?
                ofcourse~~~ it stems from the Pauline ''my ''gospel.... AND THIS WAS INVENTED by a person who murdered and killed others.
                the indwelling demons coming out from a Pharisee [ a nest of vipers] was never delivered from by the Saviour, and so when the pews sit at the feet of paul/saul they too suffer a murderous life.
                how?
                Well they accept ''death as a friend'' and ''legalised murder'' for their nations as an assess to their governments.
                They even have'' chaplins'' for their armed forces religious beliefs and prayers for their victories - was this really the ideal living in the life abundant the Saviour foresaw?

                ''My Peace I leave with you said the prince of Peace'' amen
                Do you think there would be ''peace'' inside the vets and their programmed to kill mindset?

                saul/paul gospel did this to generations of people.
                the mark of dark evil frequency surrounds and pollutes these poor men and women of vanity~the killing machines...legal murderers.... coming out from that 1 soul they sat under the Pauline church system.
                yet, he does write about peace....too... to be fair~~~

                treatmentsolutions.com
                Sometimes we feel helpless when it comes to acknowledging our thanks to the men and women in the armed services that have served in combat to protect our country.
                We might even wonder what we can do to give our support to these troops, or how we can help them out.
                One thing the government and veterans would suggest is to help find a way to end the long-term effects of war on the minds of soldiers.
                One way to do this is to provide more mental health professionals to help with the issues service members deal with every day.

                Mental Ailments Increasing
                War veterans and those still in the service often suffer from Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD), substance abuse, depression, and thoughts of suicide.
                Statistics for these problems have worsened in recent years, and there are those who are pushing for solutions to these problems.

                It is estimated that one third of veterans returning from Iraq and Afghanistan have mental health problems.
                Many of these individuals end up turning to drugs and alcohol to silence their pain.
                Returning service members often have a hard time integrating back into life in America with their families, and even those with a good support system can find themselves overcome by substance abuse and suicide.


                the fruit inspection proves the Gospel and its Prince of Peace is non existent to the majority

                edification>>>Jesus is called The Prince of Peace, but his followers have been involved in Religious wars for nearly two thousand years. They've led crusades, inquisitions, pogroms, imperialistic conquests and holocausts.The Catholics and Protestants have been killing each other since the 16th Century, and continue unabated to this day in Northern Ireland. The only Nuclear Bombs ever to be used in war were first blessed by Christian ministers. Today as I write American soldiers are in the Middle East under a Christian president who said God told him to invade Iraq.

                Jesus said many people thru the ages would claim to be his followers but would actually be the followers of Satan. He called them Wolves in Sheep's clothing.

                It is my belief that those Christians who have slaughtered and killed in Jesus name were pretenders, for Jesus neither authorized violence, nor desired it, but most vehemently spoke against any use of force. He said a tree is known by it's fruit, and he said you would be able to know his true disciples by their LOVE.

                Did you know there are more scriptures about peace than salvation in the New Testament?

                During the first 300 years of the Christian Church all of her leaders said the use of violence, and serving in the military, or police forces, was a sin.

                I am always stunned to meet people claiming to be Christians who believe that military service, or police work, is acceptable to God. There are over 50 Scriptures in the New Testament stating that Christian are never to use violence. Look at them for yourself. The quotes in Yellow are the very words of Jesus.
                http://www.robertroberg.com/writings/war.html

                Who penned such ''advice'' to be followed = was it Yeshua?
                no~~~~

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                • #9
                  IF, you mean business with holy divine Father

                  He will make sure YOU BECOME HIS WORMANSHIP because ''seek ye first the kingdom of heaven and all else shall be added unto you'' amen
                  THE ALL ELSE means in part being taken out from religious deceptions, being healed of all former demonic burdens and knowing how to overcome and defeat the last enemy called death~~~~PASSOVER~~it is termed.
                  He will make a ''covenant of salt'' with you and sit down and sup with you daily amen.
                  also He will provide every need and make very sure you walk by faith and become FAITHFULL to His word.

                  BTW it has nothing to do with church doctrines and nothing to do with keeping a Saturday of idolness thinking you are special and holy.
                  what it has to do with is.....getting rid of all our enemies, being sinless and walk into HIS PERFECTION and not one person ever did this from any form of religions.
                  how?
                  by having HIM AS OUR HIGH PRIEST.
                  THE GOSPEL is written in the will of the Father and the highest love frequency, and so when obeyed + daily taken in, the whole DNA system is reversed back into the divine blueprint
                  our spirit quickens and awakens, our soul begins to submit to the Word, and our body progressively become LIGHT AND TRANSFORMED. here.
                  ''who Is this'' is formed as a born again new breed human/divine person.
                  self help
                  all forms of religion
                  self regulation
                  weird doctrines
                  law of moses to the jews only
                  Will never accomplish what is needed and vital to our divine eternal life transformation.
                  The unregenerated people, thinking they are right will fight tooth and nail, to stop the gospel EXPLOSION of the truth.
                  There is no other way to leave vanity and all its deadly rulership than TO HAVE YESHUA AS LORD OF ALL within our heart.

                  the REAL MAN WITHIN has to become ALIVE AND MOVE INTO RULERSHIP AND THIS BEING IS A MIGHTY GLORIOUS SUPER HERO OF DIVINE ESSENCES.

                  With true training up into perfection by the Saviour, this person BECOMES UNLIMITED in authority and power of the Most high
                  sometime into the divine training programme you will begin to notice divine MANIFESTIONS in spirit soul and body, yes, small at first by ever growing at an accelerated rate as holy faith is fully developed and its ''substances'' appears as our reality.

                  One lesson hard to learn is the divesting of all false religions, values, doctrines and creeds - ofcourse this is never easy to give up all false security blankets that have death woven into them
                  most people sad to say cannot do this, as ''they do what is right In their own eyes''
                  this is the way of A CULLING the lips servers from the truth seekers, and faith walkers

                  when you tell others of your experiences and tests they get angry and call you names because the truth is hated,.and so these people cannot handle the truth to be freed.
                  Your religion cannot fool Father, as He sees WHAT FREQUENCY wave you are upon... some 30 some 60 some 100 fold.

                  culling.....
                  separating

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                  • #10
                    Escaping From Sin!

                    Hi Lucy,

                    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                    Messiah Yahushua said this:

                    John 8:34

                    34 Yahushua answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

                    Sin is defined by the Apostle John as anomia, that is, activity that is against the Law of YAHWEH ELOHIM. Physical Sabbath Breaking is against the commandment of YAHWEH ELOHIM. If you yourself and your family are in slavery to this sin, that is, you all do fully engage in work on the Sabbath Day, then please explain to me and to others how it is that you have become free of this sin or how it is that you and your family are no longer a servant to the sin of Sabbath Breaking?

                    Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,

                    Sincerely, Latuwr
                    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                    • #11
                      hello friend spying...i hope you will begin to understand....

                      and exit from the indoctrinations of Armstrongism
                      please do~~

                      ~Firstly I am not a jewish.
                      the law of Moses was given to the Jews only. It was part of their laws 613 infact
                      Do you keep them?
                      Do you know them?
                      Do you look them up and keep a list to make sure your'e obedient to all....
                      If you keep one, you MUST KEEP ALL.... mess up... your'e history - don't you know this?
                      No man could keep all.
                      How do you feel about this?
                      Millions and millions have tried this religious formula so what makes you think sin will be removed from you, when it failed in all other religious people in the past.
                      [I confess, I like my belief to work, to manifest out in a substance I know is divine and not from me or my self effort]

                      Let us consider together the real problems of sin
                      toss out misconceptions and reconsider our options....

                      the Saturday Sabbath.
                      Was a day set aside to remember the Hebrews slavery in Egypt and their marvellous deliverances. to meditate on these things and the acts of God.
                      Ofcourse they too kept this Saturday Sabbath, but also they all died too.

                      Just as the SDA [ellen whites and co, invention of ''hey lets keep the Saturday Sabbath'' in 1800's] all die from their sin too.

                      Doesnt seem to actually work this Sabbath keeping for anyone.
                      Do you know 2/3 witnesses of Sabbath keeping over 200yrs only approx.
                      Doesn't make anyone super holy either.
                      No one can self help themselves to stop sins.

                      not eating pork will not stop sin
                      attending Saturday service will not stop sin
                      saying G-D or writing His name this way will not stop sin

                      Tis a real problem.
                      Is there an answer to our plight
                      Yes~~~~

                      if saturday Sabbath services don't work
                      what does work?

                      do you know.?

                      I don't like scripture verses to prove a point
                      I love THE SCRIPTURE TO BECOME me and my life in my daily living

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                        and exit from the indoctrinations of Armstrongism
                        please do~~

                        ~Firstly I am not a jewish.
                        the law of Moses was given to the Jews only. It was part of their laws 613 infact
                        Do you keep them?
                        Do you know them?
                        Do you look them up and keep a list to make sure your'e obedient to all....
                        If you keep one, you MUST KEEP ALL.... mess up... your'e history - don't you know this?
                        No man could keep all.
                        How do you feel about this?
                        Millions and millions have tried this religious formula so what makes you think sin will be removed from you, when it failed in all other religious people in the past.
                        [I confess, I like my belief to work, to manifest out in a substance I know is divine and not from me or my self effort]

                        Let us consider together the real problems of sin
                        toss out misconceptions and reconsider our options....

                        the Saturday Sabbath.
                        Was a day set aside to remember the Hebrews slavery in Egypt and their marvellous deliverances. to meditate on these things and the acts of God.
                        Ofcourse they too kept this Saturday Sabbath, but also they all died too.

                        Just as the SDA [ellen whites and co, invention of ''hey lets keep the Saturday Sabbath'' in 1800's] all die from their sin too.

                        Doesnt seem to actually work this Sabbath keeping for anyone.
                        Do you know 2/3 witnesses of Sabbath keeping over 200yrs only approx.
                        Doesn't make anyone super holy either.
                        No one can self help themselves to stop sins.

                        not eating pork will not stop sin
                        attending Saturday service will not stop sin
                        saying G-D or writing His name this way will not stop sin

                        Tis a real problem.
                        Is there an answer to our plight
                        Yes~~~~

                        if saturday Sabbath services don't work
                        what does work?

                        do you know.?

                        I don't like scripture verses to prove a point
                        I love THE SCRIPTURE TO BECOME me and my life in my daily living
                        Really? How can the scriptures become YOU in your daily life, when YOU don't even believe the scriptures presented to YOU, and when YOU will NOT even accept the scriptures that is presented to YOU, and even Messiah's own red words presented to YOU too?

                        Also, please show everyone where Messiah taught Gentiles differently than the Jews of His day??

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                        • #13
                          ofcourse Spying there is a way

                          to stop sinning and live and remain, transformed into a spiritual warrior and friend to Yeshua~~
                          ''BE YE PERFECT [MATURED AND COMPLETED] AS I AM PERFECT''

                          ''BE HOLY AS I AM HOLY''

                          lovely words~~~ and even better if reproduced with our soul amen

                          These verses are not put there for Saturday Sabbath keepers for they are not perfect nor holy. which is a shame as they put such effort to be ''good people''

                          but that is not actually good enough~~~

                          To attempt to understand this problem we all face sin....
                          Yeshua said '' of My own self I can do nothing''
                          Yeshua had to depend upon His Father for all things!!!
                          [seek ye first the kingdom of God, all else shall be added to you]

                          so by faith, if I seek His kingdom and He is my Shepherd and I do as He has commanded of me.....how will my sins be dealt with to HIS SATISIFACTION?.
                          DO YOU KNOW SPYING?

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                          • #14
                            dear spying i do believe your prblem lays in this fact

                            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                            to stop sinning and live and remain, transformed into a spiritual warrior and friend to Yeshua~~
                            ''BE YE PERFECT [MATURED AND COMPLETED] AS I AM PERFECT''

                            ''BE HOLY AS I AM HOLY''

                            lovely words~~~ and even better if reproduced with our soul amen

                            These verses are not put there for Saturday Sabbath keepers for they are not perfect nor holy. which is a shame as they put such effort to be ''good people''

                            but that is not actually good enough~~~

                            To attempt to understand this problem we all face sin....
                            Yeshua said '' of My own self I can do nothing''
                            Yeshua had to depend upon His Father for all things!!!
                            [seek ye first the kingdom of God, all else shall be added to you]

                            so by faith, if I seek His kingdom and He is my Shepherd and I do as He has commanded of me.....how will my sins be dealt with to HIS SATISIFACTION?.
                            DO YOU KNOW SPYING?


                            You are devoted to this man saul/paul and you have not as yet had the eyes opened...
                            that's ok...
                            it will happen at the right time amen~~~
                            but at the moment saul/paul has soul-tied you from his grave.
                            herein lies your problem... from sitting at the feet of Pauline churchianity you have been zapped into grave error [ notice the word grave laddy]

                            The Original Saints believed and taught that you MUST come clean with God in Repentance BEFORE the Holy Spirit would indwell.
                            No one was 'Saved' in sin or did any early Saint teach that man was Born in Sin.

                            They understood that man possessed free and unhindered ability to Obey God and DO what was Right.
                            Most of professing Christianity today is under a massive System of Error that has negated genuine repentance and substituted it with a wretched man profession that keeps them in slavery to their sin.
                            This error of pauline system of church needs exposing and pulling down the Strongholds so others may come to a Knowledge of the truth and escape the snare of the devil before it's too late.


                            do you understand this concept of ''O WRETCHED MAN THAT I AM''
                            the author of original sin.[ grave error] AND YOU END UP IN THE GRAVE IF YOU BELIEVE THIS ERROR.

                            Why are you kept in slavery to your sins, thinking your saturday idleness will redeem you when it never has TO OTHERS for thousands of years
                            ''it is insanity to do the same thing over and over expecting a different result.''

                            this confused theory of Pauline church are erased when YESHUA becomes our Teacher.


                            The Preparation of the heart belongs to man: a man has to be clean in his own heart
                            Proverbs 16:1

                            Biblically, its simply “repentance”,
                            is
                            the clearing the heart of guile and pride in a season of godly sorrow, forsaking all known sin with sincerity, and sanctifying oneself from the world;
                            Yes, its that simple, being transformed from the old man of sin to the new man of righteousness in the baptism of repentance.
                            That ye might sanctify and cleanse the heart and mind with the washing of water by the word and the renewing of the soul, receiving the NT empowerment (Grace) of the Holy Spirit, walking upright according to the Spirit thoroughly furnished unto good works! Amazingly simple,
                            Yes?
                            I realised Pauline churchianity keeps people IN BONDAGE to their sins. [ a sin mentality]
                            Now look at what Yeshua says in Rev 3


                            The most miserable people on the face of the earth are those caught up in the false Church System under the Strong Delusion of doctrines that absolves them of their human responsibility to come clean with God and walk in a morally upright manner as His followers.
                            They conceal their misery well in a pious ‘form of godliness, pretending they have a firm persuasion of trust in the finished work of Christ and that ‘obeying Him is NOT making any effort to repent and stop sinning, but ‘believing that the sufficiency of His Grace has you covered.
                            that’s why they will hide behind such nonsensical platitudes

                            let's get real Spying~~~~~
                            The problem is not preaching repentance; it is giving a wrong definition to the word.
                            When we believe on Yeshua , we do repent,
                            We change our mind about unbelief to belief in Christ.
                            Turning from sin is a work.
                            So you believe in a works based salvation, by telling the lost to repent from their sins.
                            The ones that have obeyed Him are those that have received the message of mercy and favour, and not those who made some efforts to stop sinning.
                            The problem is not preaching repentance; it is giving a wrong definition to the word.
                            Let’s look at this logically, if that’s even possible.
                            This is the Ultimate bondage and has brought more people to ruin and misery than anyone could know.
                            They are trapped between a rock and hard place.
                            if they actually make an effort to Stop sinning and do what is Right, they are labeled self-righteous hypocrites and ridiculed by their professing Christian friends.
                            If they continue in sin (as usual) they are constantly assured Grace has them covered.

                            So there’s no incentive or motivation to ever do anything to please God because it has no bearing whatsoever on the outcome of your Salvation.
                            Thus they are ensnared in the '‘Wretched man and filthy rags'' cycle of ''doing things in the Church'' but ‘Doing nothing toward ‘cleaning up your act and walking morally upright.


                            What they have done by building a gospel around ‘believing and not doing’, is ‘Judged themselves unworthy of eternal life’ (Acts13:46)
                            Our Duty to Obey God is not trying to be Justified by the: ‘works of the law’, its doing what He has asked us to do based on our ability to DO IT.
                            To say such things as ‘The ones that have obeyed Him are those that have received the message of great favour, and not those who made some efforts to stop sinning’ is DISOBEYING Him and the Gospel.
                            We are to do what it is our DUTY to do! (because we are able to do it!)

                            do you know how to stop sinning?

                            When we believe on Yeshua , we do repent,
                            8 enormous words.
                            8 words that bring forth new creation life
                            8 words the Ekklesia live in
                            8 words of life.

                            what is the Christ verb.... the core..... the message...B.E.L.I.E.V.E.
                            and hey man, it never passive just in the head as a thought.
                            Last edited by LucySmith; 04-06-2016, 10:17 PM.

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                            • #15
                              the pauline styled church keeps the pews in bondage

                              why?
                              because it is not one shepherd and one flock .... but many voices of many strangers.

                              something to think about
                              saul /paul declared he was as MASTER BUILDER - a real clue to his ancient secret society MASONIC ROOTS

                              = this attracts the same kind of person.
                              can we prove this is so.....and always has been


                              CAN THE MASONIC THREAD come right through up the church teaching into the present
                              YES


                              bingo~~~~~~
                              http://olivetjournal.com/false-minis...lt-hand-signs/



                              http://olivetjournal.com/false-minis...-signs-part-2/

                              the MASTERBUILDER... has to have a line of corruption flow right through the Pauline style system and so few will '''see'' this red flag- ''warning will robinson''
                              the voice of a 33deg. mason
                              http://www.voiceofjesus.org/m/billygrahamvsjesus.html

                              not too many souls wish to take up their cross....
                              the cross is simply the choice of belief or unbelief.
                              Last edited by LucySmith; 04-11-2016, 05:46 PM.

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