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    Hi Everyone,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Shabbat Shalom!

    Does Christianity have any real idea of how the ELOHIM go about fighting a War should THEY decide to do so? Most Christians have no understanding that the Cross was an act of war. Consider this scripture:

    Hebrews 2:14
    14 Forasmuch then as the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself likewise took part of the same; that through death he might destroy him that had the power of death, that is, the devil;

    Obviously, this scripture indicates that when the ELOHIM fight, THEIR fight is to the death. THEY hold nothing back. When THEY fight, it is total warfare. The ELOHIM seek rightly for the total destruction of THEIR enemies.

    If we fully understood how the ELOHIM go about fighting in a spiritual sense, would this not help us to understand how we should fight our enemies in a physical sense? What do you think? Should Christianity love Islam to death, or should Christianity fight Islam in a physical sense to a no hold's bar fight to the death according to the Scriptures?

    Thanking any in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,

    Sincerely, Latuwr
    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

  • #2
    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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    • #3
      Speaking Japanese!

      Hi Lucy,

      Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

      Shabbat Shalom!

      My Father, bless his heart, spent considerable time in New Guinea during WW II at the 27th General Hospital at Hollandia. He told me that the humidity there was such that he never was dry from day one. I recall how he suffered from jungle rot on his feet years after he came home from the war.

      Initially, the Australians did all the heavy lifting on New Guinea until the Americans were able to build up their forces in the war against the Japanese. You yourself and your family still speak English today because of the fighting ability of Americans coupled with our industrial capacity. Without us, you and your family would now be speaking Japanese.

      War is a necessary thing and as such, war should not be fought in an indefinite manner. The vast majority of traditional Christians have no idea that the Cross of My Messiah Yahushua was an act of war. They are clueless about how the ELOHIM THEMSELVES wage war, and as such, many Christians are conflicted concerning the manner in which our physical wars should be waged. How about you yourself? Do you support and appreciate the Australian effort against the Japanese during WW II?

      Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,

      Sincerely, Latuwr
      The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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      • #4
        hello Spying

        I am in entirely different breed, Spying

        It is best to let Christians be Christians if that is their desire, as I am no longer part of that religious system nor of the same mindset. I do not participate in anything of a religious nature nor in CULTural or Patriotic matters.

        as for how the God's war......
        I look to Yeshua for all my instructions and His gospel advice , [ and no other]
        I e,...... He blesses all peacemakers and when the ''warlords - gods of religion'' wished to kill Him 11 times He disappeared/vanished from their midst. I will stay in the Master's advice on this topic and be blessed.

        ''blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God'' Math 5

        Yeshua says,
        "Peace I leave to you, my own peace I give you, a peace which the world cannot give, this is my gift to you" (John 14:27).

        He wasn't too bothered about Rome, nor its standards on the Jewish nation.
        Rome, was simply a tool used by Father, for a nation of rebellion.

        I cannot add anything further, but the Gospel ''peace on earth and goodwill to all men''

        so Peace Brother.

        -------------------------------------


        then we have the ''Christian nations'' celebrating......their kind of ''peace on earth and goodwill''



        Peace is a DIVINE gift. amen
        Last edited by LucySmith; 12-19-2015, 02:23 PM.
        THE disguise comes before THE deception
        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

        Comment


        • #5
          highly emotional issues.....yet WHO understands the Master's ways?

          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
          I am in entirely different breed, Spying

          It is best to let Christians be Christians if that is their desire, as I am no longer part of that religious system nor of the same mindset. I do not participate in anything of a religious nature nor in CULTural or Patriotic matters.

          as for how the God's war......
          I look to Yeshua for all my instructions and His gospel advice , [ and no other]
          I e,...... He blesses all peacemakers and when the ''warlords - gods of religion'' wished to kill Him 11 times He disappeared/vanished from their midst. I will stay in the Master's advice on this topic and be blessed.

          ''blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called the sons of God'' Math 5

          Yeshua says,
          "Peace I leave to you, my own peace I give you, a peace which the world cannot give, this is my gift to you" (John 14:27).

          He wasn't too bothered about Rome, nor its standards on the Jewish nation.
          Rome, was simply a tool used by Father, for a nation of rebellion.

          I cannot add anything further, but the Gospel ''peace on earth and goodwill to all men''

          so Peace Brother.

          -------------------------------------


          then we have the ''Christian nations'' celebrating......their kind of ''peace on earth and goodwill''



          Peace is a DIVINE gift. amen
          peace is a divine gift...
          perhaps we all need to take a deep breath and ''see'' the true KINGDOM ADVICE, from our KING OF GLORY....
          WHAT IS HIS PERSONAL VIEW AS ''THE'' GOD AND ''THE'' MAN?



          PEACE AND GOODWILL to all men.............. amen
          THE disguise comes before THE deception
          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

          Comment


          • #6
            Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
            peace is a divine gift...
            perhaps we all need to take a deep breath and ''see'' the true KINGDOM ADVICE, from our KING OF GLORY....
            WHAT IS HIS PERSONAL VIEW AS ''THE'' GOD AND ''THE'' MAN?



            PEACE AND GOODWILL to all men.............. amen
            now ofcourse a person can justify their ''wars'' with their gods and men.....
            but I feel what ever way we view a ''war'' [ good or bad] = the sickening vile reality is one of gross madness and be it a war of gods or men = it remains a full blown insanity.
            however, that is my opinion, no doubt others will have theirs as each man does what is 'right' in his own eyes


            THE disguise comes before THE deception
            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

            Comment


            • #7
              good to see the graphics...[the reality of evil]



              I suppose all military personal belief some ''god''....is with them.
              I call this god= ''satan'' but perhaps you have a different view.
              THE disguise comes before THE deception
              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

              Comment


              • #8
                an act of \war\ against animals....

                war has many faces.... a PANDORAS BOX of destruction.

                yes.
                we can all look at maiming/killing/destruction of many things, from our plush seats in our comfortable lounge rooms
                however....
                what would it be like being on the RECEIVING END OF being destroyed
                would you like to be destroyed?
                consider this animal for instance and the smiling cheering killers who see nothing gross in this practice.
                [warning graphic]



                there are many gruesome pics available on 'war' against animals....and as I looked this cruelty in man I discovered a revelation
                what?
                the spirit of suffering and fear of the animal, goes into the meat and when the meat is eaten, the suffering and the fear spirit invades the eaters.......this is why pagans are as they are live how they live and do what they do.....[mostly unacceptable] but it is a CULTural generation thing, only Father and His holiness can erase.
                THE disguise comes before THE deception
                What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                Comment


                • #9
                  destruction...................





                  yes, the human mentality ''admires'' war because it is programmed too
                  yet.
                  most will proclaim '' I wish to live in peace'' - yet cannot seem to resist the pull of war.
                  ''war brings peace'' = is a ''propaganda'' saying and some type of ''banner'' the masses rally under.
                  perhaps, it is the acts of a ''double minded person''


                  I love this attitude best.
                  THE disguise comes before THE deception
                  What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                  THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                  - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                  - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                  This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    bombing for peace, is the Matrix solution

                    I suppose the ''leadership'' of nations now has a formula ''bomb for Peace''
                    '' we war for peace''.
                    and when ''they say peace peace''- sudden destruction comes.

                    how strange to view this sentence from a very different angle.?
                    [don't worry darlings, we are bombing you for Peace + TO set you free
                    ----opps---- sudden destruction comes= opps so sorry]

                    peace is war
                    yet
                    war is peace, so whenever ''THE ''THEY'' say Peace, sudden destruction comes''.
                    bombing for Peace.
                    no one really seems to care too much, as long as it is over there... not.... in your neighbourhood.



                    yes, its sure great to have our opinions on war, viewing ''war on TV'' in the soft cushions of the lounge suite.....
                    yes Sir, but, I wonder what it feels like to have your leg blown off and the bone hanging out, as you watched the bombs fall?
                    I wonder who helps a person like that?
                    can they crawl to a hospital?

                    hmmm....bombs, bullets and body parts.....when ''they cry Peace and safety''===== RUN
                    Last edited by LucySmith; 12-22-2015, 07:40 PM.
                    THE disguise comes before THE deception
                    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                      I suppose the ''leadership'' of nations now has a formula ''bomb for Peace''
                      '' we war for peace''.
                      and when ''they say peace peace''- sudden destruction comes.

                      how strange to view this sentence from a very different angle.?
                      [don't worry darlings, we are bombing you for Peace + TO set you free
                      ----opps---- sudden destruction comes= opps so sorry]

                      peace is war
                      yet
                      war is peace, so whenever ''THE ''THEY'' say Peace, sudden destruction comes''.
                      bombing for Peace.
                      no one really seems to care too much, as long as it is over there... not.... in your neighbourhood.



                      yes, its sure great to have our opinions on war, viewing ''war on TV'' in the soft cushions of the lounge suite.....
                      yes Sir, but, I wonder what it feels like to have your leg blown off and the bone hanging out, as you watched the bombs fall?
                      I wonder who helps a person like that?
                      can they crawl to a hospital?

                      hmmm....bombs, bullets and body parts.....when ''they cry Peace and safety''===== RUN
                      info added
                      THE disguise comes before THE deception
                      What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                      THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                      - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                      - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                      This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                      Comment


                      • #12
                        well ofcourse there is another view of war.....

                        Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                        And there was war in heaven:
                        Michael and his angels fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels, and prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.
                        And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world:
                        he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
                        (Rev. 12:7-9).
                        this can be viewed from ''levels'' of understanding,
                        [the serpent in the G of Eden became the dragon, in the last book of the Bible =Revelation.]
                        he grew from a serpent into a dragon.

                        a serpent can be a thought that is injected but when the injected idea is acted upon it grows into A dragon [ stronghold]
                        I have heard many believe ''the serpent'' is the carnal mind of man, posing as ''god''.
                        THE WAR, ofcourse is invisible.
                        YESHUA Himself, had the ability to CAST OUT, the demons and they obeyed Him.....''SON OF MAN, have you become before your time''?
                        was the demonic question.

                        in this invisible - have you learnt how to CAST OUT your personal strongholds and sins?
                        first bind the ''strongman'' of the House. [ the house is our body]

                        just recently I had a personal issue, that needed cleansing.... it was to do with ''self esteem'' and while I don't never hold with SELF IMPROVEMENTS[of the carnal kind] there is a personal quality [ as a son/daughter of the Most High ] that needs to be expressed in a divine manner and bearing.
                        I did not have this quality.
                        It was brought to my attention by His holy spirit, so I confessed this sin out before others and then I needed to know the name of my demon host......and to name it- shame it -and call it out to be loosed from it.
                        the name of my strongman was ''loss''.[ I was delivered from...Loss.]
                        'demon loss.'
                        therefore I prayed and cast it out AND now I am no longer a victim of LOSS. [ this was very true, for 18yrs ago I opened the door to demon Loss, and suffered- the door is now closed]
                        therefore
                        I HAVE MY ''VIRTUE''/''QUALITY'' restored for which I thank Father for His grace over me.

                        now every disciple has to learn ''warfare'' of the divine kind.
                        the binding of our strongman, and then pray/confess/repent and cast out in the name of Yeshua ofcourse.


                        for further info on spiritual warfare...
                        take a look at Derek Prince Ministries
                        - an expert in this DIVINE field and very easy to understand with great edification.
                        THE disguise comes before THE deception
                        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                        • #13
                          ofcourse.....



                          and of a serious kind....http://www.jewsnews.co.il/2015/12/23...is-laid-waste/
                          THE disguise comes before THE deception
                          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                          • #14
                            to add
                            ''angelic war games''
                            hmm what do u think?

                            THE disguise comes before THE deception
                            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                            Comment


                            • #15
                              war for peace.....

                              THE disguise comes before THE deception
                              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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