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  • Abortion And Reincarnation!

    Hi Everyone,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Both ImAHebrew and I have been off waging spiritual warfare with those who believe in reincarnation. What are men and women really? When we physically die, do we incarnate again into a different physical body outside of the resurrection? If so, what is the process by which those who believe in reincarnation come to live again in a physical body? Is there agreement amongst the reincarnationists concerning how exactly we come and go, over and over and over again?

    Should no reincarnationists come to render their testimony concerning this issue, then we will put forth a scriptural perspective concerning the nature of man to the best of our ability YAHWEH willing. What the Scriptures have to say concerning man is a whole lot more important than the lying spirits who have fostered upon mankind their contrary views to the teaching of YAHWEH ELOHIM.

    So, who will accept the challenge? Are there any members of the Way of the Disciple of the Nazirene bold enough to come and engage ImAHebrew and myself concerning whether or not reincarnation is taught by the Old and New Testament Scriptures? How about those members of the Keys of Knowledge? Can they defend their beliefs concerning reincarnation through the Scriptures? If so, then you all have opportunity to debate with us on two different forums, that is, if you are not afraid to move outside of your zones of comfort:

    Either:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/forum.php

    Or:

    http://www.tzaddikim.org/forums/index.php

    Or perhaps both!

    Thanking any in advance that should be moved to defend their faith, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

  • #2
    question please Spying

    what scriptures point out to us.. RECYCLED souls?

    why do you visit the religious Matrix and argue with demons?
    Yeshua said ''come out from her My People and do not partake of her sin''

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    • #3
      Living And Dead Souls!

      Hi Lucy,
      Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
      You asked of me:

      question please Spying
      what scriptures point out to us.. RECYCLED souls?


      There exist scriptures which definitely show that some folks believed in reincarnation at the time that Messiah walked this Earth, but I did not establish this thread to write about any scriptural proof for reincarnation. Indeed, I had hope that those who believe in reincarnation would supply those arguments.

      Even so, without their testimony, I am free to write about what the Scriptures do say about mankind without their interference which is a great blessing.

      Reincarnationists do believe in recycled souls, and, in a sense, so do I, but my idea of what is recycled is totally different from their perception. I do not believe in immortal souls that incarnate again in human bodies for whatever reason. Scripture indicates that ELOHIM created Man a living soul, and that this living soul is not immortal; otherwise, how could this soul die through eating of the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil? Here is what the Apostle Paul has to say about the first living soul, a man:

      1 Corinthians 15:45-48
      45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam was made a quickening spirit.
      46 Howbeit that was not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; and afterward that which is spiritual.
      47 The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is YAHWEH from heaven.
      48 As is the earthy, such are they also that are earthy: and as is the heavenly, such are they also that are heavenly.

      All those who believe in reincarnation do not believe in the last Adam who is a quickening spirit. Some of them believe in a higher soul self apart from My Messiah Yahushua. They imagine that they do not have need of HIS quickening since they are coming back again as a living soul without HIM. Living souls have need of a quickening spirit otherwise they will grow old and get sick and physically die, and so do dead souls otherwise how will they live again, and this is why both ImAHebew and myself go forth to sprinkle the unclean demons both the living and the dead, that is, all the unclean spirits that do now exists in human bodies and spew forth their lies. They all have need of purification, do they not?

      Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
      Sincerely, Latuwr
      The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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      • #4
        amen

        thank you for your reply
        amen 2 to your post
        =============================================================



        - follow THE GOSPEL advice....
        Simply '''do''' WHAT YESHUA did AND CAST OUT THOSE DEMONS of witchcraft/uncleanness from these demonic 'christians'

        Please, walk away, you are ''pandering'' to their dark energy and will NEVER WIN by debates/strife/argueing= IT DOESNT WORK.
        WHEN Yeshua calls His people OUT, He never sends them back IN to fight and war over scriptures.
        Apostle Paul FOUND THIS OUT...

        DO WE COME WITH WORDS OR WITH POWER?

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        • #5
          The Living Word Is Very Powerful!

          Hi Lucy,
          Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
          There exists a great need to engage the forces of darkness, that is, should any of us seek to rule over the darkness of this world. This is our destiny, you know.
          My Messiah through HIS temptation provided us with an insight on how to defeat demons and their arguments which is the duty of every Child of ELOHIM. Messiah defeated HaSatan through using the Scriptures, and this is exactly how the demonic forces are to be defeated today.
          We should not run from false teaching. Just as faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Rhema (speech) of ELOHIM so also can false teaching and the lies of demons enter the heart and minds of folks through the spoken word (I am thinking of Eve here in the Garden).
          It takes a whole lot of work as you know, but false teaching can be exposed as false teaching by making proper use of the Holy Scriptures, and this is why I venture into their venues and write in order to defeat them. Indeed, the Rhema of YAHWEH ELOHIM is powerful, but in my humble opinion (dogma), the written Word (Logos) of YAHWEH ELOHIM is even more powerful when put into action by those who follow the Lamb.
          Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
          Sincerely, Latuwr
          The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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          • #6
            Adam & Eve: A Living Soul

            Hi Everyone,
            Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

            We are informed by Moses that Man was created in the image of ELOHIM, and that this creation was both male and female:

            Genesis 1:27
            27 So ELOHIM created man in his own image, in the image of ELOHIM created he him; male and female created he them.

            What this means for me is simply that both Adam and Eve were created together as two individuals in one physical body. I personally believe that Eve was the backside of Adam and, occupying that position, Eve could see where Adam had been, and Eve could hear what was going on around Adam, but Eve had no capacity to speak independently of Adam. Accordingly, Eve was totally silent in her existence with Adam. This understanding could account for the Apostle Paul's directive that women should remain silent in the Churches for this was Eve's original state. Of course, this understanding has great spiritual implications for all those who believe that the physical contains an allegory of the spiritual.

            When ELOHIM caused Adam to enter a deep sleep, Eve was separated from Adam and given an independent existence and also a voice of her own. Then ELOHIM, having separated the two, brought the two back together again in marriage saying through Adam and Moses:

            Genesis 2:23-24
            23 And Adam said, This is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh: she shall be called Woman, because she was taken out of Man.
            24 Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.

            Please notice that man was not originally created male and male, nor was man originally created female and female. Males can be joined in unity and so can females, but this unity is not the one flesh ordained by ELOHIM. A man according to ELOHIM must be joined to a woman before they are blessed as one flesh by ELOHIM.

            Should the above understanding be the truth, then it immediately becomes apparent that reincarnationists must answer a number of questions. Who is the higher soul self of the living soul created as Adam and Eve and when did that soul enter the single physical body of Adam and Eve?

            Thanking any in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,
            Sincerely, Latuwr
            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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            • #7
              Becoming A Living Soul

              Hi Everyone,
              Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
              Shabbat Shalom!

              After HIS Resurrection, My Messiah Yahushua engaged in a certain practice:

              John 20:22
              22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, Receive ye the Holy Ghost:

              I wonder, where do you think that Yahushua got the idea that HE could breathe upon HIS Disciples and command them to receive Holy Spirit? I believe that Messiah was simply repeating with HIS Disciples the exact same process that is indicated in Genesis whereby Man becomes a Living Soul:

              Genesis 2:7
              7 And YAHWEH ELOHIM formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.

              Man was formed or molded by YAHWEH ELOHIM from moistened dust (see Genesis 2:6). In the LXX, the Greek word for "breathed" is the exact same Greek verb which is used in John 20:22. In the Genesis account, Man was formed from watered dust. Thus, Man is first given physicality, and then Man is infused with spirit which makes the molded dust to come alive. When the molded dust comes alive, then and only then does Man become a soul.

              According to the Scriptures, Man was not infused with soul; rather Man was infused with Holy Spirit which caused the flesh of Man to come alive, to become a Living Soul.

              Now, how do we know that the above is true? Consider this very important teaching of Yahushua:

              John 6:63
              63 It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profiteth nothing: the Rhema (speech) that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

              The important issue before us right now is exactly how did we all also become LIVING SOULS? Ideas anyone?

              Thanking any that should be moved to give answer, I am,
              Sincerely, Latuwr
              The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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              • #8
                YAHWEH ELOHIM Is The Source Of The Spirit Which Gives Life To Our Souls!

                Hi Everyone,
                Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                We have already seen that Adam and Eve were created as one soul which according to the Scriptures is in the image of ELOHIM. This one soul according to the Genesis account is both male and female. So both natures were present in the original created soul. This created soul was a combination of spirit and flesh (see Genesis 6:3), and it was the spirit which gave life to the flesh. Of course, the source of this spirit which gives life to our souls is YAHWEH ELOHIM.

                Created souls are not immortal. They cease to exist when the spirit leaves or can no longer inhabit the flesh. The spirit leaving the flesh is the reason why the soul dies, and according to the teaching of YAHWEH ELOHIM disobedience to HIS commands brings about this death of the soul:

                Genesis 2:16-17
                16 And YAHWEH ELOHIM commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:
                17 But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.

                And additionally through the Prophet Ezekiel:

                Ezekiel 18:4
                4 Behold, all souls are mine; as the soul of the father, so also the soul of the son is mine: the soul that sinneth, it shall die.

                The reason why all souls belong to YAHWEH ELOHIM is simply this: YAHWEH HIMSELF is the source of all the spirit that inhabits our flesh to give life to our souls:

                Jeremiah 2:13
                13 For my people have committed two evils; they have forsaken me the fountain of living waters, and hewed them out cisterns, broken cisterns, that can hold no water. (Messiah Yahushua clearly teaches in the Gospels that living water is a reference to the spirit of ELOHIM!)

                Of course, just as soon as YAHWEH ELOHIM states the truth of an issue, HaSatan stands ready to dispute that truth. HaSatan was the first being in the Scriptures to state that disobedience to the commands of YAHWEH would not cause the death of the soul, and all reincarnationist repeat his lie every time they open their mouths in support of reincarnation.

                Reincarnationists, no manner their type, they all are themselves broken cisterns which cannot hold or keep the spirit within themselves, and when they die in their sins, their spirits go back to the ELOHIM that originally gave HIS good spirit to them as the Scripture does say:

                Ecclesiastes 12:7
                7 Then shall the dust return to the earth as it was: and the spirit shall return unto ELOHIM who gave it.

                Reincarnationists are reluctant to go heads up against these Scriptures, but they can continually like HaSatan spew forth their lies appealing to everything but the direct statements of YAHWEH ELOHIM in support of their foolishness.

                Thanking in advance any reincarnationist that should be moved to prove me wrong, I am,
                Sincerely, Latuwr
                The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                • #9
                  The Sharing Of Spirit!

                  Hi Everyone,
                  Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                  Can spirit be shared? Yes! Both kinds, good spirit as well as evil spirit can all be shared. Spirit can be shared through formed Rhema or speech, and Rhema can be both good and evil. We have already seen how YAHWEH ELOHIM shared HIS spirit with Adam and Eve by directly breathing HIS breath, which is HIS spirit, into Adam and Eve and also importantly through YAHWEH'S speech to them, that is, through the commands of YAHWEH given to them, and we have already seen that evil spirit can be shared also through Rhema by the speech of HaSatan to Eve. Rhema enters man through the hearing of the ear, and, thus, both evil and good spirit can be shared by those who receive and accept either Rhema. Just as one can have faith in good and true Rhema, one can also have faith in evil and false Rhema. Faith takes root in us through actions, that is, through what we do. Good and righteous action follows the acceptance of good spirit. Evil and wicked action follows the acceptance of evil spirit.

                  Originally, YAHWEH ELOHIM shared HIS good spirit with Adam and Eve, who were created as one in one flesh. (Please allow me to mention as a sidebar right here that all of us have a soul mate because a soul has both a male and female nature having been originally created both male and female. A man by himself is an incomplete soul, and a woman by herself is an incomplete soul. A man and a woman joined together in marriage become a complete soul!) The Apostle Paul teaches YAHWEH ELOHIM emptied HIMSELF into Man (see Philippians 2:7). This emptying occurred when YAHWEH ELOHIM breathed HIS spirit into Adam and Eve. Now, someone can object right here and ask:

                  If YAHWEH emptied HIMSELF into Adam and Eve, then YAHWEH would necessarily cease to exist, would HE not?

                  This would seem to be so, but such reasoning does not take into account that spirit can be divided and shared, and should someone share a portion of his or her spirit with someone, then this sharing is also an emptying because the sharer becomes incomplete through that sharing. This is why shared spirit always seeks to be united with its source, and why both men and women yearn for their soul mates.

                  So can we not conclude that man became a living soul because YAHWEH ELOHIM shared HIS spirit with them? Man did not become a living soul because a living soul incarnated into man. This is not the way it works. Incarnation of souls into a soul is not the way it happened for our first parents, Adam and Eve, and it is not the way it happens for each of us. We become living souls because of the shared spirit of YAHWEH ELOHIM imparted to us through the union of our parents. How do I know that this is true?

                  Thanking any in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,
                  Sincerely, Latuwr
                  The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                  • #10
                    Your Life Began At Your Conception!

                    Hi Everyone,
                    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                    The spirit of YAHWEH ELOHIM is ancient. This spirit has been around for a long time, and YAHWEH has chosen to share this spirit with mankind. YAHWEH gave this spirit to Adam and Eve, and then YAHWEH divided this spirit into two separate individuals. Almost everyone today recognizes that humans receive there physical makeup from their physical parents, but very few realize that they also receive their spirit from their parents when the egg of their mother and the sperm of father unite to form a fetus in the womb of their mother. Just like your exact physical makeup has never existed before in human form so also has your exact spirit makeup never existed before in human form.

                    The spirit which you do now possess. The spirit which gives life to your flesh, this spirit was given to you at your conception, and this spirit is a combination of the spirit within your mother and the spirit within your father joined together at your conception. The idea that immortal souls float through the air and enter the physical fetus after conception is bogus. It is a false teaching fostered on mankind by HaSatan designed to deceive mankind into believing another form of his lie to Eve, that is, that men and women can continue to live after they physically die because they possess an immortal soul given to them after their physical conception. So, according to the Lie of HaSatan, when men and woman physical die, they do not really die because they possess an immortal soul which continues to live on after their physical death.

                    My Messiah said this about flesh and spirit:
                    John 3:6
                    6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit.

                    All humans are first born of the flesh, and eventhough all humans are given a portion of YAHWEH'S spirit are their conception, this spirit is given to them to give life to their flesh, that is, their spirit is given to them to cause their flesh to live and grow just as the spirit of YAHWEH ELOHIM did for our first parents, Adam and Eve. As Messiah Yahushua further taught:

                    John 6:63
                    63 It is the spirit that gives life; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.

                    Your fetus in the womb of your mother was given life by the spirit contained in the sperm of your father and the egg (sperm) of your mother that was united at your conception in order to give life to your flesh. When you were physically born, you were born of water. In order to live perpetually, you must be born again. You must also be born of the spirit, but that is getting ahead of ourselves.

                    Please allow me to ask you all this question: Did the sperm that came from your father, was that sperm physically alive? In the same manner, did the egg (sperm) that came from your mother, was that egg physically alive? If so, then both, according to the teaching of Messiah Yahushua, both the sperm and the egg possessed spirit because it is only through the spirit that the flesh lives and remains alive. You owe your physical life to your parents and to YAHWEH ELOHIM who gave HIS good spirit to Adam and Eve and commanded them to be fruitful and multiply.

                    Thanking any that should be moved to reply, I am,
                    Sincerely, Latuwr
                    The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                    • #11
                      Abortion Is Murder!

                      Hi Everyone,
                      Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
                      Shabbat Shalom!

                      Accordingly, life for all of us begins at conception. It is only because mankind ignores or disregards the teaching of Moses and the understanding of the teaching of Moses as taught by Messiah Yahushua that nations and men have come to engage in abortion.

                      According to the Scriptures, abortion is murder, and all those who engage in abortion are murderers. This includes all those who, being in position of authority, have made decisions that allow others to engage in abortion.

                      HaSatan is designated and identified as a murderer by My Messiah Yahushua. In a previous age, HaSatan murdered the ELOHIM of the Universe by destroying the unity of ELOHIM through promoting what My Messiah refers to as the LIE:

                      John 8:44
                      44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh the lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

                      Prior to that murder, the ELOHIM inhabited the Universe in the same manner that we inhabit our physical bodies. The ELOHIM cared for the Universe just like we care for our physical bodies. At some point and I cannot tell you exactly when, but at some point the ELOHIM determined to renew themselves. This renewal would require that they each give up what they were and subject themselves to the process of renewal whereby the exercise of faith and hope and love was the only guarantee. They would in love give up everything about themselves with the hope and faith that everything would come back to them in the renewal process.

                      What I am basically talking about right here, Folks, is reproduction. So, the war that broke out amongst the ELOHIM was about the issue of reproducing themselves, and the faction of the ELOHIM that rebelled against this renewal was led by HaSatan. The primary weapon of the rebellion was the LIE which was also used by HaSatan against Eve, but this evil weapon was before first used amongst the ELOHIM. The LIE murdered the unity of the ELOHIM, and it is because of the LIE that we see the world as it is today. Here is the LIE as recorded by Moses:

                      Genesis 3:4-5
                      4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:
                      5 For ELOHIM doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as elohim, knowing good and evil.

                      The LIE taught Eve that disobedience to the commands of the ELOHIM does not cause death. Thus, the LIE taught mankind that men and women can continue to live despite their disobedience to YAHWEH ELOHIM.

                      For those of you who are perceptive, you should be able to recognize that HaSatan and his Legions of Demons engaged in the first murder and that this murder was actually an abortion of what the ELOHIM had determined for themselves in their renewal.

                      Thanking any in advance that should be moved to respond, I am,
                      Sincerely, Latuwr
                      The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                      • #12
                        amen Spying....amen

                        abortion [ hidden inside this 1 word is another] TORN.

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                        • #13
                          The Son Is The Renewed Father!

                          Hi Everyone,
                          Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

                          Both ImAHebrew and myself understand and believe that the Old Testament Scriptures were actually written for the MAN (see Deuteronomy 8:3) that HE may live. Of course, Our Messiah Yahushua is the Son of the MAN, that is, Messiah Yahushua is an exact duplicate of the MAN of Deuteronomy 8:3, and should you allow the wheels of your mind to soar, glimpse, if you are blessed to do so, into the SOUL of the Resurrected ELOHIM who is the FATHER of US ALL through YAHWEH Yahushua Messiah.

                          The resurrected YAHWEH Yahushua Messiah is the Son of ELOHIM in the same manner that Messiah is the Son of the Man. The resurrected Messiah Yahushua is the restored or renewed FATHER because the resurrected Yahushua is the exact copy of the FATHER (see Hebrews 1:3). Messiah indeed had a preexistence, but Messiah in HIS preexistence was not the FATHER. Messiah was a significant individual within the FATHER who was totally dedicated to the renewal of the FATHER, and Messiah was chosen and designated by the FATHER as the Son to fight and win the battle against HaSatan and bring about the renewal of the FATHER. As I have already indicated on this thread, the renewal was opposed by HaSatan who was unwilling to give up his position within the ELOHIM in order that all might be born anew.

                          As a Lutheran, I was taught that Messiah was "Begotten of the Father before all worlds". This concept is totally false. The New Testament teaches that Yahushua was begotten by the FATHER through HIS Resurrection:

                          Acts 13:32-33
                          32 And we declare unto you glad tidings, how that the promise which was made unto the fathers,
                          33 ELOHIM hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Yahushua again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee.

                          So, what in all the world is this business concerning Messiah that HE is spoken about as the only begotten of the FATHER in many New Testament Scriptures prior to HIS death and resurrection? Consider this Scripture as you contemplate an answer:

                          John 3:16
                          16 For ELOHIM so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have perpetual life.

                          And consider this important testimony about Messiah as you formulate your answer:

                          Hebrews 1:1-9
                          1 ELOHIM, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets,
                          2 Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the eons;
                          3 Who being the brightness of his glory, and the exact copy of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, having made by himself ceremonial cleansing of sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
                          4 Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
                          5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
                          6 And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the earth, he saith, And let all the angels of ELOHIM worship him. (The emboldened quote is actually taken from Deuteronomy 32:43 of the LXX. Here is the English translation of the beginning of verse 43 that is found in the Septuagint but has been conveniently deleted from the Hebrew Scriptures and of course necessarily also from the English translations of the Hebrew Scriptures:
                          • 43 Rejoice, ye heavens, with him, and let all the angels of ELOHIM worship him;
                          7 And of the angels he saith, Who maketh his angels spirits, and his ministers a flame of fire.
                          8 But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O ELOHIM, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom.
                          9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore ELOHIM, even thy ELOHIM, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.

                          Verse 8 above indicates that the Son is actually ELOHIM who according to verses 2 & 4 above inherits all things from HIS FATHER, verses 2 & 5, and in verse 9 emphatically states that ELOHIM is a fellowship in which the Son has been anointed with the oil of gladness above HIS Fellows. Who are these Fellows? They are not angels because only the Son inherits from the Father and the Son is not an angel; therefore, the Fellows are not angels in that They also inherit from the FATHER. I must conclude that these Fellows comprise the ELOHIM, and if the Leader of the ELOHIM is the Son and that Son is also ELOHIM who was brought into the earth, then HIS Fellows also are brought into the earth so that the Son might be the first born among many Brethren:

                          Romans 8:29
                          29 For whom he did know beforehand, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.

                          It is extremely significant that all the Fellows through their incarnation and through the work of Messiah Yahushua become the fellowship of the First Born. Through Messiah these Fellows also become First Fruits. These Fellows did not previously exist as the First Born; rather, They existed as the Father, and for all those who are able to grasp and see it, these Fellows do inherit from Themselves through Their faith in the death, burial, and 3rd Resurrection of Messiah Yahushua.

                          I wonder, how does reincarnation explain the fact that the Son inherits all things from HIS Father, and how does reincarnation explain how the Fellows share in this inheritance of the Son?

                          Thanking in advance any that should be moved to reply, I am,
                          Sincerely, Latuwr
                          The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                          • #14
                            Abraham And His Seed?

                            Hi Everyone,
                            Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
                            Shabbat Shalom!

                            It is very clear to me from the Scriptures that some of us mortals were known beforehand. Consider Abraham:

                            Genesis 18:19
                            19 For I know him, that he will command his children and his household after him, and they shall keep the way of YAHWEH, to do justice and judgment; that YAHWEH may bring upon Abraham that which he hath spoken of him.

                            Please notice several important things right here:
                            • Abraham did command His Seed to follow in His Footsteps according to YAHWEH.
                            • Abraham would receive what was promised based upon the Seed following in the Footsteps of Abraham.
                            • Here is what Abraham did do:
                              Genesis 26:5
                              5 Because that Abraham obeyed my voice, and kept my charge, my commandments, my statutes, and my laws.

                            So, Abraham set the standard for anyone to arise and claim to be the Seed. It is evident that if anyone should desire to actually be Abraham's Seed, then they must do as Abraham did do (please read John 8:39).

                            Here is a big problem for all those who believe in reincarnation. Exactly how many lifetimes did it take Abraham to become known of YAHWEH? If indeed it took Abraham many lifetimes, then we must say that the knowledge of YAHWEH is actually incomplete and progressive based upon what Abraham must eventually accomplish. If the deeds of Abraham are progressive, then the deeds of the Seed must also be progressive and, of course, it would take the Seed many lifetimes to follow the pattern set by Abraham if the Son is like unto the Father.

                            If YAHWEH knows an individual, does not this knowledge require that YAHWEH also have knowledge of the individual beforehand. If YAHWEH actually knew Abraham beforehand, why did it take Abraham many lifetimes to completely obey YAHWEH if indeed Abraham was known by YAHWEH?

                            These are Scriptural Questions which are based upon what YAHWEH has said in HIS Word. I have found that reincarnationists do not like to answer Scriptural Questions. Like HaSatan, they do not like to expose their beliefs to the light of the Scriptures.

                            Accordingly, I challenge reincarnationists to come to Lo Ammi and answer this specific question concerning Our Messiah Yahushua:

                            Exactly, how many incarnations were required for Messiah Yahushua to prove HIMSELF the Seed of Abraham?

                            Come now, Allan Cronshaw, come now, Joseph John Dewey, will you leave the safety of your own forums to defend your beliefs in a forum which advocates the Logos and Rhema of YAHWEH ELOHIM as the standard of truth?

                            Thanking any in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,
                            Sincerely, Latuwr
                            The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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                              LIke Father, Like Son!

                              Hi Everyone,
                              Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!
                              I always proceed with hope, that is, I do not predict the direction in which someone may or may not respond after they are challenged publicly to defend their various beliefs. The Apostle Peter put it thusly concerning all that have hope:
                              1 Peter 3:15
                              15 But sanctify YAHWEH ELOHIM in your hearts: and be ready always to give an answer to every man that asketh you a reason of the hope that is in you with meekness and fear:
                              Why meekness and fear? YAHWEH ELOHIM did make this great promise to Abram:
                              Genesis 12:3
                              3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.
                              Few realize the greatness of this promise. We bless Abraham whenever we do as Abraham did do, and we curse Abraham whenever we fail to obey as Abraham did obey in everything that YAHWEH did require of him.
                              It is very simple. Should anyone claim to be the Seed of Abraham, then they must do as Abraham did do; otherwise, they through their disobedience curse Abraham. The Seed in order to be the Seed of Abraham must obey just as Abraham obeyed and do so perfectly.
                              Of course, reincarnationists do not really imagine that YAHWEH ELOHIM promised any such thing to Abraham, or had any such thing in mind whenever YAHWEH made HIS promise to Abraham. They imagine that Abraham learned to obey YAHWEH over many lifetimes (one reincarnationist has told me that Abraham learned obedience to YAHWEH over hundreds of lifetimes), and accordingly, such a reincarnationist must admit that Messiah Yahushua HIMSELF also learned obedience through many lifetimes. The true principle concerning Abraham and His Seed is this: Like Father, like Son.
                              Because I believe the Promises of YAHWEH to Abraham, I always strive to approach all men and women as if they themselves are the Seed of Abraham. I do not prejudge anyone, and I always hope that both men and women through repentance and faith might actually obey YAHWEH in all things just like Our mutual Father, Abraham.
                              Thanking any in advance that should be moved to reply, I am,
                              Sincerely, Latuwr
                              The Currahee Band Of Brothers Are Beginning To Arise In The HOLY PLACE! Listen to them!!!

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