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**Eliyah** · 08-01-2014, 06:25 AM

Men Misinterpret Scriptures.

This request was asked on another thread...

I also have an additional request concerning the original Passover. YAHWEH says this about the 15th of Abib:
Exodus 12:14-16
14 And this day shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast to YAHWEH throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.
15 Seven days shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth leavened bread from the first day until the seventh day, that soul shall be cut off from Israel.
16 And in the first day there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you.
Why would YAHWEH in these verses be giving commandments concerning the weekly Sabbath Day prior to the Testimony of YAHWEH at Sinai in which the Sabbath Commandment is first given to the Children of Israel? Do you believe that the Sabbath Commandment was actually given to the Children of Israel prior to the Exodus from Egypt in Exodus 12:16? I am going to insist on a direct answer from you on this question.

Now I'm going to put the very seven days of unleavened bread into the very texts of scriptures, and this way, there is no mis-understanding these texts of scriptures either.

14 And this day(15th day) shall be unto you for a memorial; and ye shall keep it a feast(CHAG=H2282) to YAH throughout your generations; ye shall keep it a feast by an ordinance for ever.

And this day H3117 shall be unto you for a memorial; H2146 and ye shall keep H2287 it a feast H2282=CHAG to the LORD (YAH) H3068 throughout your generations; H1755 ye shall keep it a feast H2287 by an ordinance H2708 for ever. H5769 Exodus 12:14 http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ia=feast&t=KJV

Also, this scripture says,

And on the fifteenth H2568 H6240 day(15th day) H3117 of the same month H2320 is the feast H2282=CHAG of unleavened bread H4682 unto YAH: H3068 seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the-21st day at evening) ye must eat H398 unleavened bread. H4682 Leviticus 23:6

Which day is the CHAG-FEAST=H2282??? The 15th day!

Also, quote..

And in the fifteenth H2568 H6240 day(15th day) H3117 of this month H2320 is the feast: H2282=CHAG seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the -21st day at evening) shall unleavened bread H4682 be eaten. H398 Numbers 28:17 .

Also, Exodus says quote.

Seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the 21st day at evening) thou shalt eat H398 unleavened bread, H4682 and in the seventh H7637 day(15th day of first month) H3117 shall be a feast H2282 CHAG to YAH. H3068 Exodus 13:6.

Which day is the CHAG-FEAST-H2282 ??? The 15th day of the first lunar month Aviv, not the 21st day of Aviv, and this they ignore, because it disproves the 21st day as being a CHAG-FEAST=H2282 in the first lunar month!

Now, let's look at this scripture.. Quote "In the first [month], on the fourteenth day(14th day end evening) of the month at even, ye shall eat unleavened bread( 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st day at evening) , until the one and twentieth day( 21st) day of the month at evening. Exodus 12:18.

Does this scripture above NOT tell us to eat unleavened bread from the 14th day end evening until the 21st day end evening? Yes, it most certainly does!

Now, 15 Seven days ( beginning of the 15th day, 16th day, 17th day, 18th day, 19th day, 20th day, 21st day=seventh, and last day of feast ) shall ye eat unleavened bread; even the first day ye shall put away leaven out of your houses: for whosoever eateth(eats) leavened bread from the first day(15th day) until the seventh day (22nd day), that soul shall be cut off from Israel.

Does this scripture NOT say, that whosoever eats leavened bread from the first day(from the end evening of the 14th, and beginning the 15th day) UNTIL the SEVENTH DAY that soul shall be cut off???? It most certainly does!

If this quote " seventh day" above, is referring to the quote " seventh day of the feast", then, how can you eat unleavened bread for a "seven full days" and NOT eat unleavened bread UNTIL the "seventh day"(21st day) of the this seven day feast??

This seventh day mentioned here, is AFTER the complete seven day feast, not during the seven day feast!!! This, they ignore completely!

Now, 16 And in the first day(15th day) there shall be an holy convocation, and in the seventh day( 22nd day) there shall be an holy convocation to you; no manner of work shall be done in them, save that which every man must eat, that only may be done of you. Exodus 12:16.

Here are the full seven days of the " seven day feast". 15th(1st day of feast) 16th(2nd day of feast) 17th(3rd day of feast) 18th(4th day of feast) 19th(5th day of feast) 20th( 6th day of feast) 21st=last day of the seven day feast=SIXTH DAY OF THE WEEK. 22nd day= scripture calls =THE SEVENTH DAY.

And, that is my exact point, there is no way to eat unleavened bread for a full seven days( beginning of the 15th day through the end of the 21st day) at evening, without eating unleavened bread UNTIL " the seventh day"(21st day) of a seven day feast!!!

Now understand these texts of scriptures...

'But ye shall offer an offering made by fire unto YAH seven days ( 15th, 16th, 17th, 18th, 19th, 20th, 21st)(and) in THE SEVENTH DAY(22nd) is an holy convocation: ye shall do no servile work therein. Leviticus 23:8.

And on the seventh day (22nd) ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work. Numbers 28:25

Again, which day is the CHAG=H2282 FEAST??? The 15th day! And which "days" are the HOLY Convocations?? The 15th day, and the 22nd days of the first lunar month Aviv. There is no CHAG-feast H2282 on the 21st day, and neither is there a "holy convocation" on the 21st day either.

Now your forced by scriptures, to distinguish between, the 21st day, which is the last day of feast=SIXTH DAY OF WEEK, and the 22nd day, which scriptures calls THE SEVENTH DAY!

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-01-2014, 07:39 AM

A Question Not Answered.

I have continually asked I'MAHebrew, and Spying both, to produce a scriptural text that says, the 21st day is a CHAG-FEAST=H2282 in the first lunar month Abib, and neither of them has produced such a text of scripture. WHY? Because there is no texts that say, the 21st day of the first lunar month is a CHAG feast, and neither is there a text of scripture, that says the 21st day is a HOLY CONVOCATION day either!

**Eliyah** · 08-01-2014, 09:43 AM

The 15th day is also called the "seventh day" by Moses.

The 15th day of the first lunar month is also called "THE SEVENTH DAY" by Moses! Please refer to the pictorial calendar below when reading these scriptures.

N.M.
1st new moon 2 3 4 5 6 7 8th(=eight day=seventh day= Sabbath) 9 10th(Lambs purchased or selected) 11 12 13 14th(Passover) 15th(Hebrew Chag-H2282 feast=SEVENTH DAY=Sabbath) 16 17 18 19 20 21st( last day of feast) 22nd( SEVENTH DAY=Sabbath) 23 24

First, notice reading from Exodus 12:6 through to Exodus 13:6, that YAH speaks through Moses, and Moses specifically points out the 15th day about 8 times, under the phrase " remember THIS DAY", "the SELFSAME DAY".

Then, we read this verse beginning at Exodus 13:3-4 quote.. And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day(15th day), in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand YAH brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten. This day came ye out in the month Abib.

Then we read speaking of the same 15th day, quote.. Seven days (15th day through the 21st day) thou shalt eat unleavened bread, and in the seventh day shall be a feast to YAH. Exodus 13:6.

Now, I'm going to quote this verse using the Blue Letter Bible Strong's so you can see the "Hebrew word number H2282" used here. Seven H7651 days H3117 thou shalt eat H398 unleavened bread, H4682 and in the seventh H7637 day H3117 shall be a feast H2282 to the LORD(YAH). H3068 http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ia=feast&t=KJV

Notice the Hebrew word number H2282-feast=CHAG is used here, and it says in the seventh day is the CHAG=feast.

Now notice this verse...quote " And in the fifteenth H2568 H6240 day(15th day) H3117 of this(first) month H2320 is the feast: H2282=CHAG seven H7651 days H3117 shall unleavened bread H4682 be eaten. H398 " Numbers 28:17.

The 15th day of the first lunar month Aviv is indeed called the seventh day, meaning the seventh day of the week, and the very day which is the CHAG=feast, and the very day, the children of Israel were delivered from Egyptian slavery Numbers 33:3-4; Deuteronomy 5:12-15.

Now the scriptures can prove three different ways, that the 15th and the 22nd days in the first lunar month, is indeed called by scriptures " THE SEVENTH DAY" and are indeed "seventh day Sabbaths" every year!

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-01-2014, 10:19 AM

Would the Disciples contradict all this scriptural evidence ABOVE?

Would the Disciples contradict all this scriptural evidence ABOVE? No!! But, evidently, there are people who really think so!

Quote..

Let's now examine the traditional manner in which the resurrection of Jesus is explained. The same false church that established the keeping of Easter and it's customs, as opposed to the keeping the Passover Festival, also ordained the keeping of Sunday as the Sabbath, maintaining that Sunday was the day of our Lord's resurrection. These decisions were made after the death of the Apostles. The writers of the New Testament warned of a coming apostasy. They warned that the truth would be distorted and the flock would not be spared. This happened shortly after the departure of the Apostles. When you read carefully what follows, we will demonstrate to you that the traditional account of Jesus' resurrection is wrong. Jesus did not die Friday and He was not resurrected Sunday at sunrise. He died Wednesday and He rose from the dead Saturday at sunset, exactly three days and three nights after His burial. The New Testament scriptural proof that follows is irrefutable. It is not an issue on which you can ride the fence. Examining the scriptures you will be forced to admit that Jesus was placed in the grave Wednesday at sunset and rose Saturday at sunset.

Jesus' own words concerning the length of time He would be in the heart of the earth (grave) is of paramount importance. The Scribes and Pharisees demanded a sign or proof from Him that He was the Messiah. Jesus gave them an answer that was not understood by those who heard it. He gave specific information that would prove He was the Messiah. Did He fulfill His own sign? If you believe the traditional account of "Christianity," Jesus' prediction did not come true. There is absolutely no way three days and three nights can be calculated from Friday at sunset to Sunday at sunrise. Let's look at Jesus' words in Matthew 12:38-41 (KJV) Then certain of the scribes and of the Pharisees answered, saying, Master, we would see a sign from thee. 39 But he answered and said unto them, An evil and adulterous generation seeketh after a sign; and there shall no sign be given to it, but the sign of the prophet Jonas: 40 For as Jonas was three days and three nights in the whale's belly; so shall the Son of man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth. 41 The men of Nineveh shall rise in judgment with this generation, and shall condemn it: because they repented at the preaching of Jonas; and, behold, a greater than Jonas is here.

Obviously, Jesus was referring to the amount of time He would be in the grave, three days and three nights. Deceived "Christian" theologians and bible students have feebly tried to explain how three days and three nights fit from Friday at sunset to Sunday morning at sunrise. They reason that any part of a day or night could be considered as a whole day or night. Hence, they count the final moments of Friday afternoon as the first day, Friday night as the first night, Saturday day as the second day, Saturday night as the second night and early Sunday morning before sunrise as the 3rd day and night. No matter how you want to reason though it, even if it were allowed that a day or night could be shorter than 12 hours, three days and three nights will not fit into a Friday sunset to Sunday sunrise time frame. Jesus made it very clear as to what He considered the amount of time there was in a day. Look at John 11:9-10 (KJV) Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk in the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world. 10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no light in him. Now if Jesus considered a day as having twelve hours, isn't only logical to assume He considered the night as having twelve hours also. Jesus knew that there were 24 hours in a day-night cycle. When He said He would be in the grave three days and three nights, He knew that He would be in the grave for three 24 hour day-night cycles, a total of exactly 72 hours.

How is it that such confusion could arise concerning the very sign our Messiah gave us? A false assumption allowed many to conclude that Jesus died on Friday. The scriptures do refer to a Sabbath day immediately following the day of Jesus' crucifixion. The unlearned assumed this Sabbath was the weekly Sabbath. They are unaware that the day which follows the Passover Day is always a special or High Sabbath. This High Sabbath is commanded in Lev. 23:6&7. This High Day Sabbath could fall on any day of the week. Jesus was sacrificed as our Passover Lamb on the 14th day of the month, as the Law required. That day was considered the Preparation Day, the day in which the lambs were prepared and slaughtered. The next day was a special day, the 15th day of the first month, a Sabbath day. Let's look at what the Law of God say's about this day, Num 28:16-18 (KJV) And in the fourteenth day of the first month is the passover of the LORD. 17 And in the fifteenth day of this month is the feast: seven days shall unleavened bread be eaten. 18 In the first day shall be an holy convocation; ye shall do no manner of servile work therein. This fifteenth day is the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread, it is a special Sabbath. All are to assemble (have a holy convocation), and all are to rest (not do any servile work). This special Sabbath can fall on any day of the week, depending upon which day of the month, that 15th day falls. As with all Jewish days, this day begins at sunset and ends the following evening at sunset.

During the crucifixion of Jesus the Jews went to Pilate, as the High Sabbath was approaching, in order to speed up the executions, and not profane the Sabbath. Obviously, they did not want the crucifixions to continue into the Sabbath. Now let's look at a scripture that confirms that this approaching Sabbath was a High Day Sabbath, John 19:31 (KJV) The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation, that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day, (for that sabbath day was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. It is overwhelming. The evidence clearly shows the day following the crucifixion of Jesus was a High Sabbath, the first day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread. At this point some may still insist that this High Day Sabbath fell on the weekly Sabbath. What follows will disprove that scenario.

Continued below.

**Eliyah** · 08-01-2014, 10:24 AM

Would the Disciples contradict all this scriptural evidence ABOVE?

Continued quote..

Looking carefully in both Mark and Luke's gospel accounts, we observe two women making preparations to anoint Jesus' dead body. The activities of these women prove that it was impossible for the High Sabbath and weekly Sabbath to have been on the same day. Mark's gospel informs us that as evening approached, Joseph of Arimathea, went to Pilate to ask for Jesus' dead body. The sun was setting, the Sabbath was about to begin. These two women saw Joseph place Jesus' dead body in the tomb, Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses. The tomb was outside the city of Jerusalem near the place of crucifixion. Joseph had to hurry to place Jesus' body into the tomb before the Sabbath began. Picture in your mind the events taking place, Mark 15:42-47 (KJV) And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation, that is, the day before the sabbath, 43 Joseph of Arimathaea, an honourable counsellor, which also waited for the kingdom of God, came, and went in boldly unto Pilate, and craved the body of Jesus. 44 And Pilate marvelled if he were already dead: and calling unto him the centurion, he asked him whether he had been any while dead. 45 And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. 46 And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. 47 And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid. 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. As you have seen, evening was approaching, the Sabbath was about to begin. The next event Mark relates to us in chapter 16:1 is that the women go out and buy spices - after the Sabbath is past. It's obvious they would not have had time to walk back to Jerusalem and buy spices before the Sabbath began. It was against the Law to buy and sell on the Sabbath (whether it was a High Sabbath or weekly Sabbath). So in Mark's account we can see that the women had to wait for the Sabbath to end before they could buy the spices.

Now let's look at Luke's account. Luke is writing from his perspective, from what stood out in his memory. What he writes is correct, but if you believe the High Sabbath day and the weekly Sabbath day both fell on the same day(Saturday), then you have a contradiction between Mark and Luke. Luke also tells us the women watch as Joseph of Arimathea places Jesus' body in the tomb. The next event Luke records, is that the women prepared spices and perfumes and THEN rested on the Sabbath, according to the commandment. Look at what Luke writes, Luke 23:50-56 (KJV) And, behold, there was a man named Joseph, a counsellor; and he was a good man, and a just: 51 (The same had not consented to the counsel and deed of them

he was of Arimathaea, a city of the Jews: who also himself waited for the kingdom of God. 52 This man went unto Pilate, and begged the body of Jesus. 53 And he took it down, and wrapped it in linen, and laid it in a sepulchre that was hewn in stone, wherein never man before was laid. 54 And that day was the preparation, and the sabbath drew on. 55 And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day according to the commandment. 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

Do you see the contradiction? Mark's account tells us that after the Sabbath the women went out to buy spices, Luke's account tells us that the women prepared the spices and then rested on the Sabbath. My question is this: How could the women buy spices after the Sabbath (Mark's account) and then prepare those spices before the Sabbath (Luke's account)? If you believe both writers were referring to the weekly Sabbath, there is a noticeable contradiction. Again, try to picture this whole chain of events in your mind. The sun is setting, the Sabbath is about to begin. There is no opportunity to buy or prepare anything. Joseph works in haste to complete the burial before the Sabbath begins. The two women witness Jesus' body placed in the tomb and watched the stone rolled over the entrance to the grave as the Sabbath began. They then returned and observed the High Day Sabbath. When that Sabbath was past, the women went out and bought the necessary ingredients to prepare the burial ointments, just as Mark recalls. This day was the day between the High Day Sabbath and the weekly Sabbath, Friday. Accordingly, as Luke recalls, the women rested AFTER they had prepared the spices and that rest is the weekly Sabbath as commanded (Ex 20:8).

Jesus was crucified on Wednesday afternoon. With sunset Wednesday evening, the High Sabbath began. This Sabbath lasted until Thursday evening sunset. The two women bought and prepared their spices sometime between Thursday evening sunset and Friday evening sunset. The weekly Sabbath began at Friday evening sunset. When this Sabbath was past, early Sunday morning before daylight, the women went to the tomb and found it empty. Jesus had already risen from the grave. The tomb was empty. Jesus arose Saturday evening at sunset exactly 72 hours after being placed in the grave. A Wednesday burial through Saturday resurrection makes possible the fulfillment of the sign of Jonah. Wednesday night, Thursday night, and Friday night, three nights, Thursday day, Friday day, and Saturday day, three days, thus you have three days and three nights. Our Lord Jesus is not a liar or false prophet, what He said would happen, did. There is absolutely no justification for teaching any other timetable.

Really? No justification for teaching any other timetable?? Really? We will see!

We will indeed examine this above, in the light of all the scriptures on this subject. It's strange how people will try to fit today's man made Roman/Gregorian's calendar's false days of its week, and today's timekeeping into Messiah's death, burial, and resurrection!!

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-01-2014, 11:43 AM

IMAHebrew's timeline..

Here was IMAGEBREW'S timeline, quote..

Shalom Eliyahu, since you will not address or answer when you think Yeshua was buried and resurrected (and maybe you think He wasn't buried or resurrected and that's why you haven't answered), I will answer for you.

Yeshua was crucified on Wednesday (14th of Abib), and placed in the tomb right at sunset, as the 1st day of the Feast of Unleavened Bread was starting (15th of Abib). After this Feast Day Sabbath was past, the women of Mark 16:1 go out and purchase ingredients to prepare burial perfumes on the 16th of Abib (Friday). They take the whole day in buying the ingredients, building a fire, and boiling oils so they didn't get finished until the end of the day, as the 7th day WEEKLY Sabbath was commencing. So they do as Luke 23:56 states, they rest on the Sabbath (Saturday-weekly Sabbath), in obedience to what is commanded in the Torah. As this weekly 7th day Sabbath comes to an end on Saturday at sunset, Yeshua is raised from the tomb that He had remained in for 3 days and 3 nights. Then, on the next day, after this 7th day weekly Sabbath, on the FIRST day of the week (Sunday), the women take the burial perfumes out to the tomb, while it is still dark, to anoint His dead body, but low and behold, He had already arisen the evening prior. This FIRST day of the week (Sunday) is the MORROW after the 7th day weekly Sabbath (Saturday), and it is the day in which the FIRSTFRUITS must be waved. Yeshua told Mary to "touch Me not," for He had not yet be waved before the Father as the FIRST One to arise (be harvested) from the dead.

See here..http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...tfruits!/page8

Does his timeline NOT look exactly the same as in the Above posts? Yes, it does! Oh what a web they weave, once they practice to deceive!

The scriptures is a sword, a two edged sword, and it will cut to the marrow of the bone on these posts, and we will indeed show you, later.

**Eliyah** · 08-03-2014, 02:00 AM

Men misunderstand Mark's Evangel.

Those who think, there are 3 Sabbaths during unleavened bread, misunderstand Mark's words, however, you must remember, in the ancient manuscripts, there is no punctuation and separation of chapters, and this was later added by the translators. Many people misunderstand Matthew in 27:66 through Matthew 28:1-2.

Here the argument is made by those who propose the "three days and three nights" theory that the word "dawn" means "to approach towards." Thus, they claim, Mary Magdalene and the other Mary went to see the sepulchre "in the end of the sabbath," as it began to approach towards the first day of the week. On Sabbath evening, continues this reasoning, before sunset -- they found the tomb empty. UNQUOTE.

Example: So they went, and made the sepulchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch. In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it. K.J.V.

Now watch as the proper punctuation is put into to these texts. "" So they went and made the sepuchre sure, sealing the stone, and setting a watch in the end of the sabbath. As it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magalene and the other Mary to see the sepulcher.

Do you now see the difference? I simply moved the period from after the word "watch" to after the word "sabbath." I also eliminated the verse division, making "in the end of the sabbath" the very end of Matt. 27:66 instead of the beginning of Matt. 28:1. By this change the whole meaning of these verses is changed, and merely by a change in the punctuation. Mary Magdalene and the other Mary come to the sepulcher very early, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, and just as they do in the other three accounts of Mark, Luke, and John.

Mark 16:2 says "very early in the morning on the first day of the week" Luke 24:1 says "upon the first day of the week, very early in the morning they came unto the sepulcher, bringing the spices which they had prepared(Past tense), and certain others with them." John 20:1 says "The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulcher, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulcher. "

Now these texts completely harmonize with each other.

Also, those who teach 2 Sabbaths during Messiah's death, burial, and resurrection, say that Mark 16:1 is referring to another Sabbath, because that the women go out and buy spices, quote of them "" The next event Mark relates to us in chapter 16:1 is that the women go out and buy spices - after the Sabbath is past."" UNQUOTE. Question: Where does Mark say, the women buy(present tense) spices after the Sabbath is past??????????

Here is what the verse says, word for word, quote. "" And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, HAD BOUGHT(PAST TENSE) sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Mark16:1 This verse says, HAD BOUGHT-PAST TENSE, before the Sabbath, not "buying" present tense AFTER the Sabbath!

Also, those who teach 2 Sabbaths during Messiah's death, burial, and resurrection, do not consider what the NEXT verse says, ""And very early in the morning the first day of the week, they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun. MARK 16:2

What "day" followed this "Sabbath" in Mark 16:1??? It says, the first day of the week! Are there 2 first days of the week????

SHAME, SHAME on these people!

This completely destroys their argument!

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-03-2014, 03:07 PM

Scriptures Say Messiah Body Would See No Corruption.

Do you realize, those who say that Messiah's body was 3 days and 3 nights in the grave, are contradicting scriptures??? How so you may ask?

The N.T. says Messiah is called the Lamb Of YAH See John 1:29; John 1:36; Rev.5:6; Rev.7:17; Rev.14:10; Rev.19:9; Rev.21:22; Rev.22:1; Rev.22:3. Messiah is also called our Passover, sacrificed for us, and Messiah was indeed put to death on the 14th day Passover.See 1 Corinthians 5:7. Messiah is also called the firstfruits from the dead. See 1 Corinthians 15:20, 23, as the wave sheaf offering. Messiah is also called our High Priest. See Hebrews 2:17; Hebrews 3:1; Hebrews 4:14.Now we know Messiah did indeed fulfill the Law, or Torah concerning these things, as He-Himself said He came to do. Matthew 5:17.

The Apostle Shaul(Paul) said.. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Messiah died for our sins according to the scriptures; And that he was buried, and that he rose again THE THIRD DAY according to the scriptures: 1Corinthians 15:3-4. What scriptures? Was Shaul(Paul) referring to, was it Matthew 12:40? No, he is talking about the HOLY SCRIPTURES, the only scriptures extant to him. 2 Timothy 3:15.

Messiah said this, and speaking of Himself.. And Yahushua answered them, saying, The hour is come, that the Son of man should be glorified. Verily, verily, I say unto you, Except a corn of wheat fall into the ground and die, it abideth alone: but if it die, it bringeth forth much fruit. John 12:23-24 .

The Disciple Peter speaking of Messiah's body said...He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Messiah, that his soul was not left in hell( the grave), neither his flesh did see corruption. Acts 2:31.

The Apostle Shaul(Paul) also speaking of Messiah's body said...Elohim hath fulfilled the same unto us their children, in that he hath raised up Yahushua again; as it is also written in the second psalm, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee. And as concerning that he raised him(Messiah) up from the dead, now no more to return to corruption, he said on this wise, I will give you the sure mercies of David. Wherefore he saith also in another psalm, Thou shalt not suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 13:33-35.

Both Peter and Paul was quoting from Psalms 16:10 speaking of Messiah!

Question: How long does it take a dead body to begin decaying, or to start corrupting? The Disciple John speaking of Lazarus of Bethany, and Martha's brother, the town of Mary and her sister Martha, when Lazarus of Bethany died, John wrote and said.. "" Then when Yahushua came, he found that he(Lazarus) had lain in the grave four days already. John 11:17.

Then, John wrote..Yahushua said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was dead, saith unto him, Master, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been dead four days. John 11:39. So, we know a dead body is stinking when its been dead for four days.

However, since Messiah Himself fulfilled the sacrificial laws, we will let YAH Himself tell us this in the Torah to narrow it down precisely. The offerings and sacrifices was indeed a symbol of Messiah.

Let's look at the peace offering, and of a vow quote..."" But if the sacrifice of his offering be a vow, or a voluntary offering, it shall be eaten the same day(1st day) that he offereth his sacrifice: and on the morrow(2nd day) also the remainder of it shall be eaten: But the remainder of the flesh of the sacrifice on the third day(3rd day) shall be burnt with fire. And if any of the flesh of the sacrifice of his peace offerings be eaten at all on the third day(3rd day), it shall not be accepted, neither shall it be imputed unto him that offereth it: it shall be an abomination, and the soul that eateth of it shall bear his iniquity. Leviticus 7:15-18

It shall be eaten the same day(1st day) ye offer it, and on the morrow(2nd day): and if ought remain until the third day(3rd day), it shall be burnt in the fire. And if it be eaten at all on the third day(3rd day), it is abominable; it shall not be accepted. Therefore every one that eateth it shall bear his iniquity, because he hath profaned the hallowed thing of YAH: and that soul shall be cut off from among his people. Leviticus 19:6-8 .

Today is day 1, tomorrow is day 2, and on the third day, day 3 it is spoiled, and it is an abomination.

Messiah said of Himself...And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day(1st day) and to morrow(2nd day), and the third day(3rd day) I shall be perfected. Luke 13:32.

The days involved in the death. burial, and resurrection of Messiah is the 14th=Preparation Passover( 1st day), and the 15th=Both feast and seventh day Sabbath(2nd day), and the 16th(3rd day) Messiah was indeed perfected or resurrected=the first day of the week.

The wave sheaf offering is offered on the morrow(16th day) AFTER the Sabbath(15th day) Leviticus 23:11-15, and this is indeed, according to the scriptures. If Messiah was not accepted by the Father, before that third day ended, His body would have seen corruption, however, He was accepted before that third day ended. See John 20:17.

Here is I'MAHebrew's timeline again, and the article above.....N.M.1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th 7th 8th 9th 10th 11th 12th 13th 14th(Passover-messiah put to death) 15th feast sabbath 16th 17th=his saturs-day=his weekly sabbath-he will claim, and that messiah resurrected he will claim 18th(sun's day=messiah already resurrected-he is claiming.) 19th 20th 21st ( he claims is a Sabbath) 22nd

He says days 14th, 15th, 16th, and the 17th is involved, which is 4 days, and Messiah would not be accepted as the sacrifice, because His body would have seen corruption, and stinketh. The scriptures say THE THIRD DAY(3rd day), not the fourth day(4th day). Is this NOT a contradiction of scriptures?? Also, those who say Messiah arose after the third day, are denying He was the Messiah, and saying, Messiah's body saw corruption!

David, Peter, and Paul all three said, that Messiah's flesh did not "see corruption" because he was raised from the dead before the corruption stage of His body could take place.

Now, is this NOT according to the scriptures?

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-03-2014, 04:56 PM

Some serious questions to ask.

There are some serious questions people need to ask, if these days below are involved in the death, burial, and resurrection of Messiah.

14th(1st day)=Passover=Wednesday 15th(2nd day) =feast Sabbath=Thursday 16th(3rd day)= Friday 17th(4th day)=Saturday=resurrection of Messiah 18th(5th day)=Sunday= the first day of the week.

Question 1. Why would the women bring the spices to anoint Messiah's dead body on the 5th day of His death, and when a dead body would be stinking so badly??? See John 11:17-39. This makes no sense whatsoever!

Question 2. If this above scenario is correct, and the two Mary's worship the risen Messiah late on the Sabbath afternoon, WHY would they return at dawn on the first day of the week to anoint the body with spices?? See Mark 16:1-2; Luke 24:1, 10. This makes no sense whatsoever!

Question 3. If Mark 16:1 is referring to another Sabbath, then why does Mark 16:2 say the "day" that followed is called the "first day of the week"?? Can there be 2 "first days of the week"?? This makes no sense whatsoever!

Question 4. If the women prepared the spices all day on Friday the 16th, then WHY did they not come to tomb on the 16th instead of waiting till the 18th? This makes no sense whatsoever!

Question 5. If there are 2 different Sabbaths on 2 different days, then why is there only ONE-SAME Preparation day spoken of by all 4 Evangel writers and not 2 preparation days?? This makes no sense what so ever!

Question 6. If there are 2 different Sabbaths on 2 different days, then why does all 4 Evangel writers say "the first day of the week" follows each Disciple writers Sabbath day?? This makes no sense whatsoever!

This theory of 72 hours in the grave is totally destitute of any common sense logic whatsoever!

**Eliyah** · 08-06-2014, 08:44 PM

Mark 15, and 16:1-2 and Luke 23, and 24 comparison.

To better understand Mark 16:1-2 we will do a verse by verse comparison with Luke's account. Remember, there is no punctuation, and no separation of verses and chapters in the original writings of the Evangels.

54.And that day was the preparation(14th), and the Sabbath(15th) drew on. 55. And the women also, which came with him from Galilee, followed after, and beheld the sepulchre, and how his body was laid. 56. And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day(15th day) according to the commandment. Now upon the first day of the week(16th day), very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

45. And when he knew it of the centurion, he gave the body to Joseph. 46. And he bought fine linen, and took him down, and wrapped him in the linen, and laid him in a sepulchre which was hewn out of a rock, and rolled a stone unto the door of the sepulchre. 47. And Mary Magdalene and Mary the mother of Joses beheld where he was laid. Mark 16:1 And when the Sabbath(15th day) was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. 2. And very early in the morning the first day of the week(16th day), they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

People will seize on the point, that Mark says this Sabbath was past, and the woman bought the spices after this "Sabbath" was past, however, Mark is merely saying, after the Sabbath was past, that the women came to the sepulcher on the first day of the week, bringing the spices they HAD BOUGHT past tense- to anoint Messiah's body.

The key words to understand when the spices was bought, and prepared, is had prepared, and had bought, and notice that both key words are in the perfect past tense, and not bought-or is buying, or is preparing in the present tense. Also, those who say that Mark 15: 1 is speaking of another Sabbath, do not look at the following verse, which says the first day of the week that followed this Sabbath.

Also, people will not look at the sequence of monthly days involved here, and in their proper order in the Evangels either. The sequence of monthly days are preparation=Passover =14th day, the Sabbath=15th day, and the first day of the week=the 16th day are in all 4 Evangel writers, and in that monthly day order.

If there were 2 Sabbaths on 2 different days, there would also have to be 2 preparation days, and all four Evangels only speak of one preparation day=the 14th day, and in each Disciple writer's timeline, the phrase quote the first day of the week always comes after the Sabbath in all four Evangels.

The Torah nowhere speaks of 3 Sabbaths during the days of unleavened bread, and those who observe the Roman Saturday, must try to force fit it into Messiah's death, burial, and resurrection, so they can justify observing their Roman Saturday tradition of an illusion to their followers. After all, they must keep their illusion going, or otherwise, they lose their followers, and if they lose their followers, they also lose the money they get from them.

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-08-2014, 05:50 AM

The 14th day, the 15th day, and the 16th day.

Here is Mark 16:1-2: """ And when the sabbath (The 15th day)was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. And very early in the morning the first day of the week( The 16th day), they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

Where does Mark say anything about preparing the spices at all after the Sabbath??? And where do the scriptures use the words Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday in these texts of scriptures at all?? This, he has to add to the texts, so you the reader will believe his illusion of a Saturday Sabbath. The Disciples never observed the Roman calendar week.

If Mark 16:1 is referring to another Sabbath, as IMAHEBREW says, other than the 15th day, then why did Mark say, the first day of the week, which would be the 16th day, is followed after this Sabbath in Mark 16:2???

The monthly days are in perfect sequence of these events in each Evangel writer, and exactly as the Torah says too. And if you add in the monthly days into the texts, you will indeed see this is true.

Mark 15:42 says, "" And now when the even was come, because it was the preparation(=the 14th day), that is, the day before the Sabbath(=the 15th day) Mark 16:1 And when the Sabbath( the 15th day) was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. Mark 16:2 And very early in the morning the first day of the week( The 16th day), they came unto the sepulchre at the rising of the sun.

Luke 23:54 And that day was the preparation(= the 14th day), and the Sabbath( The 15th day)drew on. Luke 23:56 And they returned, and prepared spices and ointments; and rested the sabbath day( the 15th day) according to the commandment. Luke 24:1 Now upon the first day of the week( The 16th day), very early in the morning, they came unto the sepulchre, bringing the spices which they had prepared, and certain others with them.

John 19:31 The Jews therefore, because it was the preparation(=The 14th day), that the bodies should not remain upon the cross on the sabbath day( The 15th day), (for that sabbath day(15th day) was an high day,) besought Pilate that their legs might be broken, and that they might be taken away. John 20:1 The first day of the week( The 16th day) cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

Matthew 27:62 Now the next day( The 15th day), that followed the day of the preparation(=The 14th day), the chief priests and Pharisees came together unto Pilate, Matthew 28:1 In the end of the Sabbath( The 15th day), as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week( The 16th day), came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.

The "days" involved here, are the preparation=Passover=the 14th day, and the 15th day=Both first day of U.B. and seventh day Sabbath, and the first day of the week= The 16th day of the first lunar month Abib.

And, if you compare the monthly days above to what Messiah said of Himself, and you will see the third day He was referring to.

Quote of Messiah:

And he said unto them, Go ye, and tell that fox, Behold, I cast out devils, and I do cures to day( 1st day=14th day) and to morrow( 2nd day=15th day), and the third day(3rd day=16th day) I shall be perfected.

Luke 13:32.

Can you imagine the women coming to anoint a dead body that is four days old?? Buuuuuuuuu! This is exactly what the 3 days and 3 nights teaching would have you believe! Who in their right mind could believe such stupidity??

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-08-2014, 06:45 AM

Compare this post of the 15th day to the post above.

If you compare this post of the 15th day being a seventh day Sabbath, to the post above where the Disciples call the 15th day the Sabbath, you will see they harmonize with the Torah.

IMAHEBREW said....

all one needs to do is look at Exodus 13:6 and use just a little common sense to see that Eliyahu is most assuredly wrong.

Oh really?? IMAHEBREW don't even know what common sense is, yesterday, he said we are to eat unleavened bread for six days, and the scriptures say SEVEN DAYS!! I asked IMAHEBREW yesterday, to show us where the scriptures say the 21st day is a CHAG=H2282=FEAST, and he has failed to show us this.

Exodus 13:6 says nothing about the 21st day, in scriptural fact, Exodus 13:6 is speaking of the 15th day, and these scriptures before it, will indeed prove its speaking of the 15th day, and as Numbers 33:3-4 will prove this too. Please, keep your eyes on the words Remember this day, and This day, the fifteenth day(15th day) and CHAG=H2282=FEASTin all these texts of scriptures.

Behold, the scriptures quote..

And YAH spake unto Moses, saying, Sanctify unto me all the firstborn, whatsoever openeth the womb among the children of Israel, both of man and of beast: it is mine. And Moses said unto the people, Remember this day (15th day), in which ye came out from Egypt, out of the house of bondage; for by strength of hand YAH brought you out from this place: there shall no leavened bread be eaten. This day-(15th day) came ye out in the month Abib. Exodus 13:1-5

Now this scripture says quote...

And they departed from Rameses in the first month, on the fifteenth day (15th day) of the first month; on the morrow after the Passover( 14th day) the children of Israel went out with an high hand in the sight of all the Egyptians. Numbers 33:3

Now notice these next scriptures where Moses ties the 15th day =the seventh day-Exodus 13:6 as the CHAG=H2282=FEAST to the seventh day Sabbath commandment here quote..

Keep the sabbath day to sanctify it, as YAH thy ELOHIM hath commanded thee. But the seventh day is the sabbath of YAH thy ELOHIM: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thine ox, nor thine ass, nor any of thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates; that thy manservant and thy maidservant may rest as well as thou. And remember( this day the 15th) that thou wast a servant in the land of Egypt, and that YAH thy ELOHIM brought thee out thence through a mighty hand and by a stretched out arm: therefore YAH thy ELOHIM commanded thee to keep the sabbath day. Deuteronomy 5:12-15

Deuteronomy 5:12-15.

Now quote scripture..

And this day (15th day) H3117 shall be unto you for a memorial; H2146 and ye shall keep H2287 it a feast H2282=CHAG to the LORD (YAH) H3068 throughout your generations; H1755 ye shall keep it a feast H2287 by an ordinance H2708 for ever. H5769 Exodus 12:14

Exodus 12:14. http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ia=feast&t=KJV

Now quote..

Seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the 21st day at evening) thou shalt eat H398 unleavened bread, H4682 and in the seventh H7637 day(15th day of first month) H3117 shall be a feast H2282 CHAG to YAH. H3068 Exodus 13:6.

Exodus 13:6 http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ia=feast&t=KJV

Now quote..

And on the fifteenth H2568 H6240 day(15th day) H3117 of the same month H2320 is the feast H2282=CHAG of unleavened bread H4682 unto YAH: H3068 seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the-21st day at evening) ye must eat H398 unleavened bread. H4682 Leviticus 23:6

Leviticus 23:6 http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...enth+day&t=KJV

Also quote..

And in the fifteenth H2568 H6240 day(15th day) H3117 of this month H2320 is the feast: H2282=CHAG seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the -21st day at evening) shall unleavened bread H4682 be eaten. H398 Numbers 28:17 .

Numbers 28:17.http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...enth+day&t=KJV

Seven H7651 days H3117(15th day through the 21st day at evening) thou shalt eat H398 unleavened bread, H4682 and in the seventh H7637 day(15th day of first month) H3117 shall be a feast H2282 CHAG to YAH. H3068 Exodus 13:6.

Exodus 13:6. http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...enth+day&t=KJV The 15th day is the seventh day Sabbath.

Now, where do these scriptures say, the 21st day is a CHAG=H2282=FEAST?????????????? It just don't exist in the scriptures at all! But IMAHEBREW says it does??? He is asking you and me to believe something, that don't even exist in the scriptures at all!! Where???

Do a search here below for yourself! Search for the word "FEAST". http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ia=feast&t=KJV Or, search for twenty first day or one and twentieth day here..http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ieth+day&t=KJV

Man, I have to laugh, again!

Shalom,
Eliyahu C.

**Eliyah** · 08-08-2014, 07:40 AM

The "six days" in Deuteronomy 16.

IMAHEBREW is misunderstanding this verse in Deuteronomy 16:8, and I will show you this from the scriptures, and the pictorial calendar days.

First, we are told to eat unleavened bread for seven days here.. Thou shalt eat no leavened bread with it; seven days shalt thou eat unleavened bread therewith, even the bread of affliction; for thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt in haste: that thou mayest remember the day when thou camest forth out of the land of Egypt all the days of thy life. Deuteronomy 16:3

Then it says, And there shall be no leavened bread seen with thee in all thy coast seven days; neither shall there any thing of the flesh, which thou sacrificedst the first day at even, remain all night until the morning. Deuteronomy 16:4

Then it says, Six days thou shalt eat unleavened bread: and on the seventh day shall be a solemn assembly to YAH thy Elohim: thou shalt do no work therein. Deuteronomy 16:8

Did Moses contradict himself in the same breath?? No! Moses is talking about the six work days between the 15th day, and the 22nd day, and here are those six days on a pictorial calendar below.

15th day=seventh day Sabbath=first day of F.U.B. 16th( 1st day), 17th(2nd day), 18th(3rd day), 19th(4th day), 20th(5th day), 21st(6th day) 22nd=seventh day=holy convocation.

Again, the 21st day-the last day of the feast, which is the sixth day of the week is distinguished from the 22nd day, which is the seventh day, and which is a holy convocation.

IMAHEBREW will also misunderstand this post as well, because he don't want to distinguish between the 21st day and the 22nd day.

**Eliyah** · 08-12-2014, 05:01 PM

A look at YAH'S weeks in the seventh lunar month, and how YAH breaks up HIS seven day week, proving HE commands HIS WEEK of days as determined from the new moon day, and YAH'S week is not a continuous cycle as the Roman calendar week..

N.M.D.
1st day of month( trumpets-day of shouting) 2nd day of month(first workday) 3rd day of month(second workday) 4th day of month(third workday) 5th day of month(fourth workday) 6th day of month(fifth workday) 7th day of month(sixth workday) 8th day of month(seventh day-Sabbath) 9th day of month(first workday of second week) 10th day of month( Atonement-Holy convocation-yearly Sabbath) 11th day of month(second workday of second week) 12th day of month( third workday of second week) 13th day of month(fourth workday of second week) 14th day of month(fifth workday of second week) 15th day of month( Both feast day and seventh day Sabbath)

Question 1. Where in the scriptures, does the 10th day of the seventh lunar month ever fall on the Biblical six workdays? Never!

Question 2. Will the 10th day of the seventh lunar month not fall on the "six workdays" of the Roman/Gregorian week? Yes it will!

Question 3. Where in scriptures, is the 10th day of the seventh lunar month ever called one of the six workdays??? It is never called a "workday"!!

Question 4. Is there six workdays from the 10th day of the seventh lunar month to the 15th day of the seventh lunar month??? No! there are only 4 workdays!

Question 5. Is there six workdays from the 8th day of the seventh lunar month to the 15th day of the seventh lunar month? No! There are 5 workdays!

Question 6. Will the Roman/Gregorian seven day week line up with YAH'S weeks in this seventh lunar month? No!

Now compare this to the Roman/Gregorian continuous seven day week! Do you still think the Roman/Gregorian "seven day week" is the same as YAH'S seven day week in the scriptures?? Impossible!! BOOM! BOMBSHELL ! Again, the Roman/Gregorian seven day week blown to the four winds!

Eliyahu C.

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