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    Greetings to everyone, in the name of YAH All Mighty.

    Here below are some scriptural questions that everyone should investigate using the scriptures as your guidelines, and the scriptural answers may surprise you.

    Every year, that I observe all the yearly or annual ' feasts' of Yahweh, I study over all the scriptures that pertain to the feasts, and this year Yahweh revealed some startling questions, and some startling scriptural information regarding especially 'the seventh lunar month' and this 'eight day period' of the feast of Tabernacles.

    Below are the questions, the scriptures, the scriptural examples, today's modern weeks examples, and the scriptural answers.

    Question 1. Where in the scriptures, or are scriptural examples, of a 'scriptural annual yearly Sabbath' ever occurring on 'a scriptural workday' in the scriptures?

    Scriptural answer? There are no scriptural examples of this ever happening in the scriptures, as it does in today's week. Search the scriptures for yourself.

    Question 2. During the 'Feast of Tabernacles'( 15th day through the 22nd day-of the seventh lunar month), where are scriptural examples of 3 Sabbaths ever occurring within this 'eight day period' as it does happen in today's week?

    Scriptural answer? There are not 3 Sabbaths during this 'eight day' period. See Leviticus 23:34-36; Leviticus 23:39-41; 2 Chr. 7:9-10; Neh. 8:18. Also, Numbers 29 lists the entire holy days for the 'seventh lunar month, beginning with the new moon' feast of Trumpets.

    Beginning at Numbers 29:12 through verse 35 lists an entire week for the feast of tabernacles, there are not 3 Sabbaths, and certainly not 'back to back Sabbaths', from the 15th day through the 22nd, there are only 2 Sabbaths, one Sabbath on the 15th and one Sabbath on the 22nd days of the seventh lunar month.

    3.Have you ever noticed today, of 3 Sabbaths occurring during 'the Feast of Tabernacles', with the FIRST Sabbath occurring in one week(on a work day), and the THIRD Sabbath occurring in the next week( on another work day)in today's weeks?

    I don't like to do this, but, it's the only way to prove this is indeed happening in today's weeks. Want a real life example of this happening in today's weeks?

    F.O.T. began on 09/21/2013, this corresponds from Saturday evening until Sunday evening, and ends on 09/29/2013,this corresponds from Saturday evening until Sunday evening, the first work day of today's week.

    Is this not a modern 'work day' in today's weeks? Refer to questions 1. and 3. and 5.

    From 09/27/2013 evening until 09/28/2013 evening, this corresponds from Friday evening until Saturday evening.

    Is this not a modern 'weekly seventh day Sabbath'? Refer to questions 2. and 3.

    Compare here:
    http://www.eliyah.com/fot2013archive.html

    With here:
    http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...2013&country=1
    Also, notice in this example above, that the 09/27/2013 evening until 09/28/2013 evening( Friday evening until Saturday evening) date has been strangely 'left out' of this 'eight day' period, and still it counts 'eight days'??.

    Look at the 'dates' again very close. Here:

    http://www.eliyah.com/fot2013archive.html

    How can this of itself be answered or explained by EliYah?

    Notice there are 3 Sabbaths, ONE on 09/21/2013( Saturday evening until Sunday evening), ONE on 09/27/2013(Friday evening until Saturday evening-Weekly Sabbath), and ONE on 09/29/2013,ONE+ONE+ONE=3, and all 3 Sabbaths within this 'eight day' period above, and there are 'back to back Sabbaths' on the last two days of this 'eight day period'.

    Please ask: Is this not 3 Sabbaths occurring within this 'eight day' period of the F.O.T.? Refer to questions 2. and 3.

    Question 4. Where in the scriptures are examples of a scriptural 'new moon day'(first day of every month) ever occurring on 'a scriptural work day' as this does happen in today's week?

    Scriptural answer? There are no scriptural examples of this ever happening as it does in today's week. Search the scriptures for yourself.

    Question 5. Where in the scriptures, is a 'day' ever called 'both' a 'Sabbath day' and a 'work day' at the same time, and within the same week, and in the next week, as is being done in today's weeks?

    Scriptural answer? This does not ever happen in the scriptures, as it is being done in today's weeks. Search the scriptures for yourself.

    Question 6. Where in the scriptures, or scriptural examples, does a scriptural 'seventh day Sabbath' ever occur on 'the scriptural Feast of Trumpets' or any 'new moon day' as will happen in today's week?

    Scriptural answer? This does not ever happen in the scriptures, as it will happen in today's week. Search the scriptures for yourself.

    Question 7. Where in the scriptures, does a 'Holy Convocation' day ever occur on a' scriptural work day' as it does in today's work week?

    Scriptural answer? This does not ever happen in scriptures nor scriptural examples exist either. Here below are all the B.L.B. entries on 'holy convocations'.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...vocation&t=KJV

    Question 8. Where in the scriptures, or scriptural examples, does a scriptural 'seventh day Sabbath' ever occur on the 10th day and the 14th day of 'the first lunar month Abib' as this will happen in today's week?

    Scriptural answer? This could never happen, and neither did it ever happen in the scriptures. Why? Because the 10th and 14th days in the first month Abib were commanded days of work by Yahweh Himself, and in every year.

    Once the 'new moon' day is established for each particular month given in scriptures, all days forward in that particular month given, is calculated from 'the new moon' day, and in every year.

    Scriptural example you may ask? N.M. stands for 'new moon'.

    N.M.
    1(first day of month) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10th( lambs put up)11 12 13 14th(Passover)15 16 17

    Exodus 12:2-6.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?b=Exd&c=12&t=KJV#16

    This month H2320 shall be unto you the beginning H7218 of months: H2320 it shall be the first H7223 month H2320 of the year H8141 to you.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...a=months&t=KJV

    Speak H1696 ye unto all the congregation H5712 of Israel, H3478 saying, H559 In the tenth H6218 day of this month H2320 they shall take H3947 to them every man H376 a lamb, H7716 according to the house H1004 of their fathers, H1 a lamb H7716 for an house: H1004

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...he+month&t=KJV

    And in the 'second year' Numbers 9:1-6.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/Bible.cfm?...&v=1&t=KJV#top

    These lunar calendar days are 'set or fixed' from the established 'new moon' day, or 'the first day of the first month'.

    As I said, a scriptural 'seventh day Sabbath' could never occur on the 10th and the 14th days of the first lunar month Abib, because these were specific work days by command of Yahweh All Mighty.

    Please refer back to question 7.?

    The Apostle Paul most assuredly observed the 'new moon' day every month as all these scriptures below will prove.

    Let G2919 G0 no G3361 man G5100 therefore G3767 judge G2919 you G5209 in G1722 meat, G1035 or G2228 in G1722 drink, G4213 or G2228 in G1722 respect G3313 of an holyday, G1859 or G2228 of the new moon, G3561 or G2228 of the sabbath G4521 days: Colossians 2:16.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...new+moon&t=KJV

    First, let's look at Greek word 3561 neomēnia 1.new moon 1.of the Jewish festival of the new moon

    From of a compound of νέος (G3501) and μήν (G3376) (as noun by implication of ἡμέρα (G2250))

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G3561&t=KJV

    Second, let's look at G.3501, neos A primary word 1.recently born, young, youthful
    2.new

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G3501&t=KJV

    Third, let's look at G.3376, mēn A primary word
    1.a month
    2.the time of the new moon, new moon (the first day of each month, when the new moon appeared was a festival among the Hebrews)

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=G3376&t=KJV

    Here below are all the scriptures on 'new moon'.
    http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...new+moon&t=KJV

    Blow up H8628 the trumpet H7782 in the new moon, H2320 in the time appointed, H3677 on our solemn feast H2282 day. H3117 Psalms 81:3.

    First, let's look at H2320, chodesh From חָדַשׁ (H2318)
    1.the new moon, month, monthly 1.the first day of the month
    2.the lunar month.

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H2320&t=KJV

    Now, H2318, chadash A primitive root
    1.to be new, renew, repair1.(Piel)1.to renew, make anew
    2.to repair

    2.(Hithpael) to renew oneself

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H2318&t=KJV

    Now the word 'moon'.

    In his days H3117 shall the righteous H6662 flourish; H6524 and abundance H7230 of peace H7965 so long as the moon H3394 endureth. Psalms 72:7.

    First, let's look at H3394, yareach From the same as יֶרַח (H3391)
    1.moon

    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H3394&t=KJV

    Now, H3391, yerach From a unused root of uncertain signification
    1.month (lunar cycle), moon 1.month
    2.calendar month


    http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H3391&t=KJV

    Shalom,

    Eliyahuw C.
    Last edited by Eliyah; 12-07-2013, 11:47 PM.

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    Thee Above Post Is up on www.eliyah.com

    Thee above post is up on...

    http://www.eliyah.com/Forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post115298

    No kidding!! I posted it there!

    You can stand me up at the gates of hades, but I want back down!!! Hey YAH, YAH, there aint no easy way out, hey YAH YAH, I stand my ground, and I want back down!!

    Eliyahu C. still on the net!
    Last edited by Eliyah; 12-07-2013, 11:51 PM.

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    • #3
      Me wonder, will I get 'banned' by Tom M.(A.K.A. EliYah) on his forum?

      If I do, it want be the first time I was 'banned' on a forum for reproving with scriptures, and it probably want be the last time either.

      I have a feeling Tom M.(A.K.A. EliYah) will have a hard time answering all those questions with scriptures. Or, will they be ignored, or will he ban me?

      Eliyahu C. still on the net, and still cutting to bits and pieces unscriptural doctrines with my two edged sword-the scriptures within my mind. I thank YAH for all the scriptural knowledge that He has given me, and I thank YAH for the BROTHERS and the SISTERS, and for this HERE FORUM, may it stay running until the net goes dead, or Messiah returns-HalleluYAH!

      PS. You better thank YAH and the two BROTHERS for this forum, that you can post your scriptural ideas, and not be banned for doing so! I submit this forum ONLY to all the search engines, when I submit my own website to them, and at any cost will I do it.

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      • #4
        The post above.

        The post above at http://www.eliyah.com/Forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post115298
        has had 49 views so far, and one person has tried to reply, and cannot even understand the questions, nor, the scriptural answers in the post, I wonder if he will ever decipher the post, let alone answering it correctly.

        The post above is meant for a certain caliber of persons, and I will know, when that certain person or persons will understand it.

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        • #5
          Here is the rest of thee above post.

          Also, many people have assumed, since the moon was made on ‘day four’ that the moon is not to be used also in determining YAH'S ‘moeds or moedim’ (appointed times), this is not correct. Why? Because ‘both’ the ‘sun’ and ‘moon’ were made on day four, as scriptures in Genesis will prove.

          Quote: ‘ And Elohim said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them( the sun and moon) be for signs(H226), and for seasons(H4150-appointed times), and for days, and years( Gen.1:14). And let them (sun and moon and stars) be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.(Gen.1:15).

          And Elohim made two great lights(sun and moon); the greater light to rule the day(sun), and the lesser light to rule the night(moon): he made the stars also.(Gen.1:16). And Elohim set them (sun and moon and stars) in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,(Gen.1:17). And to rule over the day(sun) and over the night(moon and stars), and to divide the light from the darkness: and Elohim saw that it was good. (Gen.1:18).

          And the evening and the morning were the' fourth day'. Genesis 1:14-19.

          Both the sun and moon were made on day four, so if anyone rules out the moon as not being used with the sun to determine YAH'S ‘appointed times’ days, and years, because it was made on day four, then, of course the sun would also have to be ruled out too, because the sun was also made on day four, as these verses plainly show and prove 1 Thess.5:21.

          Of course ‘both’ the sun and moon are used in determining the moeds-appointed times, days, and years, as these scriptures plainly say so. This means Yahweh’s calendar is both lunar/solar, and not ‘one or the other‘ as many people have assumed.

          It is also interesting to note, that, the same Hebrew word number H 226(owth) is used in Genesis 1:14 speaking of the sun and moon for determining His ‘moeds’ as ‘signs’ and in Exodus 13:9; Exodus 31:13; Exodus 31:17; Deut.6:8; Deut.11:18; and Deut.28:46 as Yahweh‘s commands and Sabbaths are a ‘sign’ forever.

          When the ‘new moon’ day is established for ‘any particular month given in the scriptures’, then, all the other days numbered forward in that particular month are calculated or numbered from that ‘first day’(lunar new moon), and this is a scriptural fact of any date given in the scriptures.

          If anyone tries to tell me, that' the scriptural seventh day Sabbath' is not within all these lunar months, and is not a ‘day’ or ‘days’ in all the lunar months, the scriptures will prove such to be a lie, because all days, including the Sabbaths, are indeed calculated within the lunar months in scriptures.

          Will any try to argue, that 'the scriptural seventh day Sabbath' is separate or detached from the monthly lunar cycle of days in scriptures?

          If any such statement is argued, then, such will also be found a lie, because 'any day or date ' that can be found in the scriptures is calculated or numbered from the established 'new moon day' of every scriptural given month, and of every scriptural date that can be found in the scriptures.

          Shalom to everyone,

          Eliyahuw C.

          This is the rest of the scriptural truth on the post above.

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          • #6
            The next post, posted on www.eliyah.com forum

            Greetings to everyone in the name of YAH ALL MIGHTY.

            The first post I gave above regarding questions of the ‘eight days’ of the Feast of Tabernacles, has had 177 views so far, and no one has even noticed that ‘people today are observing 3 Sabbaths ‘ during the Feast of Tabernacles in ‘ today’s weeks ‘ which is unscriptural.

            Question: Did you ever wonder WHY most Assemblies will ONLY use ‘the new moon’ to determine ‘the first lunar month Abib’ and ‘the new moon to determine the seventh lunar month’, and all the other ‘new moon-lunar months’ in between are ignored, as if they don’t exist?

            Also, it seems if no one is even interested in ‘following or believing’ the truth shown in all the scriptural questions, the scriptural examples, and the scriptural answers to the questions.

            So, let’s point out some of these ‘ 3 Sabbaths being observed in today’s weeks‘, the scriptural examples, and the scriptures answers, and let’s see if we can spark some interest in ‘ the first article post’ above.

            Question 2. During the 'Feast of Tabernacles'( 15th day through the 22nd day-of the scriptural seventh lunar month), where are scriptural examples of 3 Sabbaths ever occurring(happening) within this 'eight day period' of the Feast of Tabernacles as it does happen in' today's weeks', and as is being done in ' today's weeks'?

            I don't like to do this, but, it's the only way to prove this is indeed happening in 'today's weeks'. Do you want a real life example of this happening in' today's weeks'?

            Example Number 1. Feast of Tabernacles began on 09/21/2013, this corresponds from Saturday evening until Sunday evening, and ends on 09/29/2013,this corresponds from Saturday evening until Sunday evening, the first work day of ‘today's weeks‘.

            Is this date above not a modern 'work day' in 'today's weeks'? Refer to questions 1. and 3. and 5. In the ‘first article post’.

            From 09/27/2013 evening until 09/28/2013 evening, this corresponds from Friday evening until Saturday evening.

            Is this not a modern 'weekly seventh day Sabbath' occurring in between, or, ( back to back Sabbaths) two other yearly Sabbaths? Refer to questions 2. and 3. In the ‘first article post’.

            Compare here:
            http://www.eliyah.com/fot2013archive.html

            With here:
            http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...2013&country=1

            Please ask: Is this not 3 Sabbaths occurring(happening) within this 'eight day' period of the Feast of Tabernacles in ‘today's weeks‘?

            Refer to questions 2. and 3. In the ‘first article post’.

            Also, notice in this example above, that the 09/27/2013 evening until 09/28/2013 evening( Friday evening until Saturday evening) date has been strangely 'left out' of this 'eight day' period of the F.O.T., and still it strangely counts 'eight days'??

            Look at the 'dates' again very close. Here:

            http://www.eliyah.com/fot2013archive.html

            Compare with here below again:

            http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/...2013&country=1

            How can this of itself be answered or explained by EliYah?

            Notice there are 3 Sabbaths, ONE on 09/21/2013( Saturday evening until Sunday evening), ONE on 09/27/2013(Friday evening until Saturday evening-Weekly Sabbath), and ONE on 09/29/2013,ONE+ONE+ONE=3, and all 3 Sabbaths within this 'eight day' period above, and there are 'back to back Sabbaths' on the last two days of this 'eight day period'.

            Here below are all the scriptures pertaining to ‘ the seventh month’ at this address in the Blue Letter Bible Strong‘s concordance for you to verify them for yourself.

            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...th+month&t=KJV

            Here below are all the scriptures pertaining to ‘the fifteenth day’ of the seventh month, and the B.L.B. Strong’s concordance address for you to verify them for yourself.

            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...th+month&t=KJV

            Here below are all the scriptures pertaining to the tenth day of the seventh month for you to verify them for yourself.

            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...th+month&t=KJV

            Here below are all the scriptures pertaining to the’ first day of the seventh month ‘for you to verify for yourself.

            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...th+month&t=KJV

            Here below are all the scriptures pertaining to the ‘eighth day’ referenced to in the seventh month for you to verify for yourself.

            http://www.blbclassic.org/search/tra...ghth+day&t=KJV

            Can we reconstruct ‘these calendar days’ of the ‘seventh lunar month’ that fit all these scriptural examples? Yes, we most certainly can.

            First, let’s give the B.L.B. Strong’s concordance, and the Strong’s Lexicon on the words ‘moon, new moon, and month again, so you will know these ‘days‘ are indeed calculated from ‘the new moon day‘ or ‘the first day of the month‘.

            1.the new moon, month, monthly chodesh
            From חָדַשׁ (H2318)

            1.the first day of the month
            2.the lunar month

            http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H2320&t=KJV

            2320 chodesh kho'-desh from 2318; the new moon; by implication, a month:--month(-ly), new moon.

            http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strong...n&isindex=2320

            Now 2318, chadash 1.to be new, renew, repair
            (Piel)
            1.to renew, make anew
            2.to repair
            2.(Hithpael) to renew oneself

            http://www.blbclassic.org/lang/lexic...gs=H2318&t=KJV

            2318 chadash khaw-dash' a primitive root; to be new; causatively, to rebuild:--renew, repair.

            http://www.eliyah.com/cgi-bin/strong...n&isindex=2318

            Also in the fifteenth day of the seventh month, when ye have gathered in the fruit of the land, ye shall keep a feast unto YAH seven days: on the first day(15th) shall be a sabbath, and on the eighth day(22nd) shall be a sabbath. Leviticus 23:34-36; Leviticus 23:39.

            Here below are the calendar days laid out of the seventh lunar month.

            1st (Feast of Trumpets) 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10th( Day of Atonement) 11 12 13 14 15th( First day Feast of Tabernacles= A Sabbath) 16 17 18 19 20 21st( last day of Feast) 22nd ( eighth day=A Sabbath) 23 24

            Now Numbers 29:1-40. Please refer to the calendar days above for all scriptural examples given.

            Let’s start with Numbers 29:12 for the Feast of Tabernacles. And on the fifteenth day( 1st day) of the seventh month ye shall have an holy convocation; ye shall do no servile work, and ye shall keep a feast unto YAH seven days: ( First day=15th= A Sabbath).

            Numbers 29: 17 And on the second(2nd) day.

            Numbers 29:20 On the third(3rd) day.

            Numbers 29:23 On the fourth(4th) day.

            Numbers 29:26 On the fifth(5th) day.

            Numbers 29:29 On the sixth(6th) day.

            Numbers 29:32 On the seventh(7th) day.

            Numbers 29:35 On the eighth day=22nd day=A Sabbath.

            This is an entire week of the Feast Of Tabernacles, and there are ONLY 2 Sabbaths, ONE on the 15th day of the seventh month, and ONE on the 22nd day of the seventh month.

            There is no mention of a 'Sabbath in between' these two Sabbaths.

            2 Ch. 7:8-10. Solomon’s time.

            Also at the same time Solomon kept the feast seven days(15th through 21st), and all Israel with him, a very great congregation, from the entering in of Hamath unto the river of Egypt. And in the eighth day( 22nd) they made a solemn assembly: for they kept the dedication of the altar seven days, and the feast seven days(15th through the 21st). And on the three and twentieth day(23rd day) of the seventh month he sent the people away into their tents, glad and merry in heart for the goodness that YAH had shewed unto David, and to Solomon, and to Israel his people.

            Now, Neh.8:18.

            Also day by day, from the first day(15th) unto the last day(21st), he read in the book of the law of Elohim. And they kept the feast seven days(15th-21st); and on the eighth day( 22nd) was a solemn assembly, according unto the manner(law).

            All these scriptural examples agree with Leviticus 23:34-41, and there are not 3 Sabbaths during the Feast Of Tabernacles, as is happening in ‘today’s weeks’ and there are certainly not ‘back to back Sabbaths’ during the Feast Of Tabernacles either.

            This merely covers one question asked in the first article post above, everyone should research this, and all the other scriptural questions, scriptural examples, and the scriptural answers given in the first article post above.

            Do you still believe there are 3 Sabbaths during the Feast Of Tabernacles?

            Shalom,

            YAH bless!

            Eliyahuw C.

            PS. Believe it or not, I also posted this today at http://www.eliyah.com/Forum/ubbthrea...tml#Post115311

            No kidding!! I posted it!! These people, especially Tom M.( A.K.A. EliYah) must be having a hard time trying to answer all those questions as I predicted!

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