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  • Lady Liberty, has to live within the framework of the NT facts and promises..........

    she has to be grounded in the REQUIREMENTS OF THE LORD and of His finished work and not go off on religious tangents that lead down rabbit holes and are not worthy of mature thinking.

    The finished work, is past tense.
    There is NO more to be done, that is why it is useless to do the ''works'' of the OT that are outside the advice of the Saviour in His Gospels. Religious people don't seem to be able to separate the Kingdom of Heaven to the 'works of their flesh'.
    There is a blindness there that will kill them.
    John the B came as a forerunner to announce THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS AT HAND, so ''repent'' -
    why did he state this in all his speeches and ministry?

    'repent' He said over and over.
    why?
    because the ''works of the flesh in the law of Moses'' could never take man into the kingdom of heaven.
    IT NEEDED a sacrifice to say'' IT IS FINISHED,'' to receive This kingdom and when the Saviour stated this = His Ekklesia, have been given the Power to move on into the Perfected and Reconciled Dimensions
    you cannot take the baggage of the flesh of religious OT works over into the Kingdom values, despite all those dead clergy telling you too.
    when you pay homage to the law of Moses, you pay the homage to sin.

  • #2
    lady Liberty...abundant life - moving into perfection

    abundant life never ends, but there is a ALTERED STATE of .....coming out from this abundant life and it is moving into perfection - NOTICE - BY COMING UP out from the wilderness, the LEANING ON THE BELOVED IS ESSENTIAL

    Yeshua was sent into the wilderness for 40days of testing, after which He came up out from the wilderness and was filled up with the Holy Spirit at the Jordan - [the death to self- river]
    I wish to focus off abundant life, and move to the WALK INTO PERFECTION
    - HOW?
    BY GAINING the maturity to have authority over all the powers of darkness - + the INFILLING OF THE fullness of the anointing - that is a disciple's goal as THE MIRROR IMAGE of Christ'' [as an attainment].

    THE DYING ON THE CROSS by the disciple ALTERS THE STATE of their being,
    dying to vanity
    dying to the Matrix
    dying to the carnal minset
    dying to the sins
    dying to death
    This, happens daily when our will is brought into full subjection to the will of Our Father[just as the Saviour's will was commanded to obey] - do you not think His will over us is far better than our own?

    so to the roots of our problem.

    Most of us have listened far to long to a deadly miserable and wicked clery, thinking they knew far more than us and being convinced we are all sinners and will always remain in sin and be guilty of sin with all manner of sinfilled experiences effecting us daily like evil monsters let out of a sincloset.

    Ofcourse this ''official church theory'' is very convincing, so death in the pews is never a shock nor a tragic thing for their saying is '' the dead have gone to heaven to be with their lord. [ small l]
    that is the counterfeit way of adding to darkness and not pushing it back........

    consider this......
    to pick up the cross and die daily on this cross and suffer the death of self on this cross, =there would not be too much spare time to rush off and enjoy a mad orgy of sin fests.
    Infact, The cross would stop sin.
    "And He Himself bore our sins in His body on the cross, that we might die to sin'' ...
    ...
    This daily denial of self KILLS SIN within and so sin in us dies + SO DOES THE DARKNESS and our physical death is overcome as we are raised up out from sin into the newness of everlasting power life.

    so The inward cross of self-denial will lead to perfection and perfection means ''made whole, blameless, completed and mature.''
    Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ and go on to maturity, not laying again the foundation of repentance from acts that lead to death, and of faith in God,
    2i-nstruction about baptisms, the laying on of hands, the resurrection of the dead, and eternal judgment," (Heb. 6:1-2
    did you see that advice - not laying again on the foundation of repentance, [ like, get over it and stop it and allow the anointing to break all the yokes within]
    •Spiritual Infancy is lack of growth after the new birth.

    Lady Liberty is ''teleiotes.''
    whats that?
    i.It means "a perfecter"
    * one who has in his own person raised faith to its perfection and so set before us the highest example of faith."


    who is this? is a teleotes
    what is that?
    A DISCIPLE WHO LEANS on the arm of the Saviour [ the well beloved.] - is a person who has been raised up by faith and lives within the highest example of faith. = as a mirror image of their Saviour. amen


    updated...i noticed the time of posting is 12-24am....in bible numerics it related to this.... FROM THE BIBLEWHEEL.
    i
    The Number 1224 - The Covenant Net




    Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the net broken.

    John 21

    The theme of the Number 1224 begins in the prime Number 17 (Sacrifice) which is perfected its triangular form Sum(17) = 153 (The Passover). This then becomes the foundation of the eternal Covenant (B'rit) = 612 = 4 (Blood/Death cf. Genesis 4) x 153 implying the death of the Passover Lamb and His Blood upon the Doorposts. This is the Net () that caught the 153 fish repesenting all "whom thou [The Lord God] hast given me." Of course, we must not forget that the fundamental Hebrew verb "to fish" is also sums to 17. Glory
    Last edited by LucySmith; 11-07-2013, 02:34 AM. Reason: updated [time 12 24]

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    • #3
      The move into perfection, is the move into maturity - well able to be ...............

      ABOUT THE FATHER'S BUSINESS WITHOUT NEEDING CONTINUAL CORRECTION.

      THIS IS THE TRANSITION INTO THE AGE OF aquarius THE MAN WITH THE WATER JAR.
      the wedding at Cana in John 2, has water jars in the drama, 6 infact [ 6 is the # of man] that needed filling up with water, spoken as the NT last words of Mother Mary, ''DO AS HE SAYS FILL UP THOSE JARS'' so there 6 water jars got filled but the water turned into wine - all very amazing not only good wine but the best wine, that is served last. [the 1st NT miracle recorded of the Saviours - there are 37 in all] and was done in response to Mary's intercession.
      intercession Move the divine.
      Mary is NO fool and knows her son and her bible. -so does Lady Liberty who comes up out from the wilderness/vanity/Matrix conditions by LEANING upon the strength of the well Beloved. - i.e. by being fully dependant upon the Beloved for His strength - who has said ''COME UNTO ME'' and the spirit has said ''COME'' and lady liberty heard and made herself ready by leaning...........leaning.......leaning upon His strength.
      THAT IS HOW IT IS ALL DONE FOR THE ''WE WHO ARE ALIVE AND REMAIN' disciples = no other way... just simply TRAINED TO LEAN without any support from vanity.

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      • #4
        TO unlearn, all you have learnt and to GET WISDOM to become WISE

        why unlearn vanity?
        why is there a need to BECOME WISE?
        so that.....
        For the earth shall be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the Lord, as the waters cover the sea. Hab.2:14
        now we have to ask this?
        Has this world been filled with the knowledge and the Glory of the Lord, by the Christian church movement?
        ofcourse not.

        so-WHAT IS THE KNOWLEDGE AND THE GLORY exactly?

        ''the knowledge of Glory''- comes to remove our adamic humanity + to release us from all prison planet abominations and return us to divine normal.
        It is the highway of knowledge into OUR FULL redemption as the Glory comes to burn away all a disciple's previous perspectives, giving them a greater insight into the REALITY OF ETERNAL Life.
        our growth IN the Spirit of Life is not by what we contain BUT BY WHAT WE LOSE. ALL of us need to decrease.
        By having the power of Christ to overcome, the OVERC*a*MERS are loosing all their former strongholds and burdens that bring physical death.
        By the daily overcoming of sin and rebellion, the Overc*A*mers retain the great ''I Am'' spirit within themselves and death cannot be activated where Christ is therefore The Baptism of Fire, [suffered in the wilderness] is to BURN OUT the substance of satanic influence and replace it with the substance of TRUTH AND WISDOM= how? by eating from the tree of Life called the hidden manna.
        what is hidden manna?
        the instructions on how to overcome and lean ON THE ARM of the well Beloved.

        Yeshua said to some people in the Gospels '' Go and sin No more'' = well, the majority go ''ha ha ROTFL ha ha ha'' - and cannot even cope with this advice and line up other verses to say it is not possible to stop sinning...rather contradictory for the babes who die IN SIN
        DIE IN SIN.
        DIE TO SIN.
        2 ways to die.
        The BEAUTY OF LIFE is exposed to a disciple as their flesh is burnt away [as a living sacrifice.]

        when Yeshua said '' go and sin no more'' to some - He introduced His SHEPHERDING power over them, to guide them, to steer them and to keep them AWAY from all evil, by giving them His wisdom that He personally used when hearing from His Father. [pray to be delivered from evil - His advice]

        as a disciple MOVES INTO PERFECTING, they understand that 'their sins don't tag along as baggage to hinder their walk''
        some edifying words from Larry............
        The Lord for His Sons.



        “Have no allegiance to the world. Do not seek or follow its ways, or its riches. Do not follow after its pleasures, its systems, or its sign posts directing to its attractions. Do not seek its counsel or apply its wisdom. Do not be settled in its security so called. Look only for that which carries the tag “made in the Heavens”, rather than “made on the earth”.

        You are going to have to do things in the natural realms which will disturb your earthly security which give natural worldly comfort, but cause a spiritual unease. I will break these worldly securities and bring change to your circumstances in order that you serve only Me, for that which you serve will be your master. You will no longer serve houses, jobs, investments, family, friends and religion. Expose yourselves to insecurity in the world system and then you will see how Great and Faithful I am. Test My Faithfulness. Some have stood in worldly security and never tested Me. I will change this. You will actually come to know that I am Faithful to my word, rather than just speaking it without experience. Do not fear this for I will never leave or forsake you, but you will be brought to the extremities where your trust will be only in Me. Do not set your future in worldly plans, or toil for their acclaim.

        Trust no man other than one who “trembles at My Word”, for they hear only Me. The world hates you and will plot to deceive you and involve you in its purposes. The religious will poison you with rejection and jealousy. They will smile nicely and say they understand, whilst their hand will work mischief against you. Beware of any person who confesses Me but hedges around the Word.

        Do not spend your time in pursuit of activity bearing religious titles for the sake of being seen. This is pride and self-exaltation and I will strip you of it. It matters only that you are seen and known of Me, and I look on the heart. Better that you invest your time before My Face. Do not strive to reveal the Glorious secrets of My Third Day to the religious, for the day of their hearing is not yet at hand. Bridle your natural enthusiasm, and speak only when I tell you to speak, for you will be stoned as the prophets of old. I will birth My Kingdom Day and I will make known to you My times and movings in due course”.






        ALL GLORY TO JESUS



        LARRY WILSON [Australia ]

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        • #5
          ....one day in vanity, an OLD MAN MELTDOWN HAPPENS - as a disciples ''gets the call''

          to move into PERFECTION comes.

          A decisive battle will rage between spirit and flesh and the Meltdown continues as the disciple, choses Masters and who shall be their LORD. ALL the children of God face this same meltdown experience, and come into the mindset of '' I AM PERSUADED'' - meaning - the foundation that all never be shaken.

          ''I am persuaded'' IS A NEW MINDSET, imparted into the Ekklesia [after all the Ekklesia is the Lord's handiwork] that no longer is wavering or shaken and cannot be moved

          why not?
          It is Yeshua who does HIS PERUSADING and opens up the destiny for each of His living stones and then shepherds them into their position in the temple He is building....
          Those living stones, are then hewn and cut to fit in their correct position.....just perfectly.
          Each stone is a mirror image of the Head corner stone.
          So, the old man Meltdown happens once a disciple realises the revolutionary possibilities ahead for them as the Saviour reveals their destiny with a testimony, that OVERCOMES satan.
          Once the revelation comes, the disciple does not continue to eat the same stale manna, but is spoken to each day with a Rhema word that builds up a holy faith WITH the re-assurance and confidence that their Saviour abounded in as He walked earth. NONE are left in the dark or neglected from hearing the 'voice of the turtle dove'.
          This ''coming into perfection'' in essence is to BE MADE WHOLE or TO BE REDEEMED, and redemption is a HERE AND NOW word, that spells our total freedom from our captivity to vanity.
          a DISCIPLE HAS THIS ASSURANCE this is so
          how come?
          '' I am persuaded'' = is a bible statement that has a REALITY /EXPERIENCE to it for it is not just 3 words but a living reality with living results to it.
          you see '' I AM PERSUADED'' no longer has any DOUBT attached to it. All doubts have been removed and ''doubting Thomas'' can successfully say ''MY LORD AND MY GOD'' and mean it.

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          • #6
            this ''OLD MAN'' meltdown, causes a change of heart,....

            and this 'change of heart'' becomes a disciple's new reality - as the incorruptible seed takes root and begins to grow. The move is on, like a plant pushing it's way up thru a crack in concrete, the seed, IS bursting out with ETERNAL LIFE.
            what happened?
            The Faithful Ones, [as sons and daughters] become singular and total in their commitment to their calling. WHY?
            THEY HAVE BEEN PERSUADED...and will not be moved as they are no longer 'hungry for man made religious food'.
            what is a disciple PERSUADED OF?
            That immortality shall be THEIR life, and this will glow from them, bringing the knowledge of the Saviour's Glory, as they stand in the cloud of His Presence.
            so why are the Ekklesia trained up..............for what?
            The ministry of restoration and peace.
            Plus to break the spirit of bondage over creation.
            that is why the call ''come'' is heard, to move into the School of Perfecting. - as the bride made herself ready.

            PERSUADED... hidden inside is 2 words ''super dead''.

            ''to be HOLY, AS I AM HOLY'' [is the divine NT command] So a disciple has to be PERSUADED, of the vision set before them, and become SUPER DEAD, to the law of sin and death.[their old man]

            ''To be holy'' - is not keeping the OT Sabbath today, thinking it is all ''spiritual'' to do so. Unfortunately Sabbath keepers are far from holy and die as do all pew people.

            ''to be Holy'' means...
            No!!! part of death can make a disciple a slave, therefore the fire of baptism, shall burn off the dross of their former nature that kills them.
            what is ''baptised by fire'' mean.?
            To overcome all bondages and slavish adamic ways,+ to overcome the pathetic Matrix and its deadly standards of accepting the food from the Tree of Knowledge of good and evil.
            To be anointed to STAND in the evil day [refusing all temptations] and win the victory over the world, the flesh and satan.
            No one shall live and remain unless this goal is accomplished for Yeshua will have NO deformity sitting upon His throne as Co-Heirs In christ.
            *He will never have an UNHOLY WAVERER messing up His rulership.
            *He will never have men and women with secret sins, telling HIM how to run the show.
            *He will never have cowardly weaklings, nor Judas types who run when satan calls.
            In the school of Perfecting, the Saviour says =''Fear no enemy for you are in My Hand''.

            Yeshua needs ''BELIEVERS'', not a passive belief but A REALITY BELIEF, that is practiced daily - to OUTRAY His glory within His Ekklesia.
            Believe is never passive.
            Believe is a confident trust of allow His will to overtake our life no matter what situation we find ourselves in.
            Believe is a word that means FULL COMMITTMENT.
            Believe is a word that cannot contain a little of UNBELIEF within it.

            He that believeth on the Son hath eternal life, but he that believeth not on the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God shall abide upon him (John 3:36).
            look at the comparison.
            * believe is eternal life here and now
            * not believe is wrath and death.


            to believe is to be practiced and this practicing of all He believes develops a disciple into His Image.
            let it be noted even devils believe.
            Therefore the Ekklesia is to be PERFECTED IN THEIR BELIEF.
            I rather like what Larry Wilson writes for edification.
            My eye is upon you day and night.
            My Spirit is sent with a ministry to perfect you.
            Some of you My Sons are in difficult circumstances.
            I will move on your finances do not be troubled over this.
            I will move on your circumstances and change will come in areas that trouble you. The wilderness will soon be behind you, and the joys of your calling will lift you up. Trust me as you have done for surely these things will come to pass.
            I watch you, I protect you, and I will complete my plans for you, for I know the plans I have for you, says The Lord, they are plans for good and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope”
            .

            always there is a prophetic word for His Ekklesia amen.

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            • #7
              to cross the Rubicon, has a meaning of..... a point of NO return

              where it is NO longer possible to turn back from destiny.
              divine destiny that is. [ a destiny with a testimony rev 11 v 12]

              THIS POINT HAS BEEN REACHED for those disciples found enchristed....yes, it happened some time back, but now a whole new revelation/knowledge/vista has been opened up as those who are called and chosen into His eternal life move out from His abundant life and into perfection - [completed into maturity] where there is NO turning back as the path has be committed and set in the heavenlies as the bride makes herself ready.

              Yes.....
              His abundant life is still manifesting but at the same time, side by side is the opening up of EKKLESIA PERFECTION = ''I will have MY church, without spot wrinkle or unclean thing'' = that is now happening on a far grander scale.

              as the cross works its way into a disciples life, they see the divine work as progress in themselves and how much satan, the flesh, the world can be WITHSTOOD within their lives - not because the disciple is strong and mighty NO NO NO - but the disciple has surrendered up their last vestages of their will and adamic humanity to the cross.
              THEY ARE DYING TO SIN within, their soul surrendering up her last ''rites/rights'' and her full redemption now becoming visible, amen.
              where they place their feet is holy ground....
              A disciple KNOWS of their metamorphoo and the teaching it takes and the training that is given to be as AN ARMY, of ''WHO IS THIS?''
              i.e.
              an army,who is terrible yet,'' MIGHTY WITH BANNERS''
              a terrible army a mighty army = not as the armies of this world but WITH THE POWER AND MIGHT imparted into their lives as 'saviours' who roar out from Zion.
              None shall stand before them. why?
              because of the overcoming strength of enchristed power within to reconcile the world back to the Father.

              each disciple knows their stage, their rank, and are not misinformed on progress.[ i.e a report card] as of today, the rubicon is crossed and you know what....DEATH IS BEING SWALLOWED UP by the glory of Christ and His power in His Ekkelsia. amen.
              THE POWER OF THE RESURRECTION IS WORKING amen.
              it always did, but ignorance and wrong teaching and all manner of misinformation hid its might and transforming power.,

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              • #8
                why does a disciple have to tune out from their wavering Unbelief....

                into the-- divine command and ADVICE TO ''BELIEVE'' as an active ingredient of re-formation......believing in Yeshua RE-FORMS into a NEW CREATION.
                if you passively believe your'e dead.
                re-form is to UNDO a form and RE DO it.

                if you actively Believe you live as a RE-FORMED new being that is why Yeshua continually said ''BELIEVE IN ME''. [these 3 words are for re-form-ation]

                Most people believe in the Matrix/vanity value realm and Yes, they may say ''i believe Jesus'' BUT SERIOUSLY FAIL to abide in such a belief, and so ''cover it up'' with their religious works, thinking they have to ''win god over'' to their point of view, and their religious works somehow win His APPROVAL.
                ummm
                so this whole religious vomit, kills off the pews,
                why?
                because unbelief is unacceptable and wavering in unacceptable
                why?
                what is so wrong about being religious and remaining in vanity - after all 99.9% of the pews do.
                What is wrong WITH THE BROADWAY and all manner of church divisions and church theories from the dead clergy....the majority love it.

                but you see IF WE LOOK very carefull there is a reward FOR BELIEVERS ie THAT active belief - the same kind Yeshua has with the Father,
                "the exceeding greatness of His power towards us who believe''

                did Yeshua have ''exceeding greatness of His power'' = ofcourse....

                have you ever seen this same quality of ''exceeding greatness'' in the church system for the past 2000yrs
                - ofcourse not...
                SO WHAT'S THE PROBLEM.
                un-belief and wavering between 2 options...[wanting to have a foot in both camps]

                why?

                FALLEN MAN WAVERS between 2 masters, loving the Matrix and hating the command to BELIEVE.
                why?
                because true belief and true believing puts a person to the test, and these tests BECOME THEIR TESTIMONY of
                #! how they overcame satan
                or
                #2 how they were unable to overcome satan,


                it is your responsibility to put satan, the world and your flesh UNDER the feet of the Saviour...........[''it is finished'' means - the work has been successful now its your turn to submit, just as the Saviour did]
                and most people haven't a clue how this is done.
                why?
                their ears have been stuffed full with sickening theories and evil misreprestation from vile unanointed dead men....
                there is a clue
                if a church, a theory, a doctrine, A LEADER, becomes popular to the masses AVOIDED LIKE THE PLAGUE IT IS.
                the ''most popular'' things/people, is the ''eyes gate'' activated to the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.
                after satan seduced Eve she was delighted to be a faithless admirer and her SOULISH eyes loved what she saw,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

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                • #9
                  THE MAJORITY love their religion, they ''do'' all the ''right'' things .....

                  in their own eyes.
                  They have been trained well, by all those dead clergy, the unanointed and the unappointed = therefore there is a convincing counterfeit system, actively at work dishing out deception.
                  one clue is - when you see the beggin bowl, saying, '''give me ya love offering of money,honey'' you see Judas and his Ministry.
                  however, because of tradition few notice the counterfeit and are more than happy to be duped.

                  why is this so?

                  because none love the spirit of truth to be saved and were very contented to be ''playing church'' with the best intentions.

                  the law of sin and death still prevails over the christian church system yet so few even notice this abomination.
                  who ever stops to think............

                  ummm ''that is kinda strange, i wonder why this is''?
                  so few receive HIS EXCEEDING GREATNESS, and to me it all seems such a terrible waste - all that EXCEEDING GREATNESS lost, by gross religious deception.
                  what does this EXCEEDING GREATNESS mean?
                  Eph.1 v 17-23 explains.
                  therefore if you had this exceeding greatness, would you physically die [ called death and perishing] from IGNORANCE
                  because people PERISH from LACK of knowledge, according to the bible.

                  get wisdom...
                  say for instance a person said to me ''why dont you keep a saturday sabbath, like a large number of folk do, after all God told the OT jews to do this forever''.
                  i would say '' I have been blessed with wisdom on this issue, and as I follow My Saviour's sayings, so i will not die....[ His sayings obeyed, are divine Life reproducing]
                  Notice
                  He did not include saturday sabbath keeping IN His sayings- this has been added as ''works'' by the dead unanointed clergy, and founders of u,s.a. creeds - of which i despise as religious frauds and religious profiteerers who sell the gospel for personal gain and then hire hirelings to convince the deceived - that, ''they are the true church'' etc.
                  Ofcourse, these are likened to the Jannes and Jambres Ministry - pimps in the pulpit - who seduce away ''the perishing ''.

                  None understand ''GOING ON INTO PERFECTION'',
                  The RELIGIOUS ''They'' have been around long enough to have reproduced maturity and wholeness in the pews - so that CHRIST APPEARS - alas - a waste of time, for none of this exceeding greatness is ever seen.

                  What is lacking is the advent of the Holy Spirit into people's lives - notice this word HOLY - can anyone tell me where DEATH = UNCLEAN-NESS, IS FOUND IN HOLINESS.
                  was Yeshua HOLY?
                  Is Father Yahweh HOLY?
                  Is death found in them?
                  THE SPIRIT WITHIN , as AN ALL ENCOMPASSING spirit, IS.................................... HOLY, HOLY, HOLY
                  - angels even sing of this fact.

                  now If you had this HOLY SPIRIT that moved you into perfection, wholeness and completeness - HOW WOULD YOU DIE IN SIN AND DECEPTION.?

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                  • #10
                    Lady Liberty is DIFFERENT. why?

                    she no longer holds onto those miserable and wretched tenets of the unanointed preachers and their lifestyle of gain and profit.

                    yes ~~~ the gulliable will cheer and clap and respond to their preacher's nakedness, but those who are moving onto perfection have nothing in common with such religious frauds.
                    why?
                    it is a sad sick joke being played upon those who are just as naked.
                    After all, kind dwells with kind + the perversion in the unanointed clergy is found in the pews.
                    why? it is called ''bonds and soul ties''
                    The soul ties, groom each other and are very content with the attraction.
                    as an example,
                    the RC masses [of adorning religious fans] follow the pope, never understanding he is an actor commissioned to play the ''roll of a pope'' and his 'stage name' is Jonathan Pryce.
                    ummm= and the pews BOND to such 'popular' cult figures.. [bond to bondages]

                    again, anyone or anything that becomes ''POPULAR'' know it is deception.

                    however, for some there is goodnews...........
                    Yeshua, set the pattern from His childhood, that of ''being launched into a NEW ADVENTURE and the Ministry for His new creation''.............. that is why J the B went ahead as a proclaimer '' repent for the Kingdom of Heaven is at hand''.
                    The age of Aquarius has been entered into and the Man [water bearer] has water to fill the Jars - water is the rhema revelation, on how to move into perfection.
                    *HOW to overcome satan, so a disciple is NO longer affiliated with this being
                    * HOW to overcome the flesh, but BEING NO LONGER TEMPTED and submitting to such temptations
                    * HOW to be realsed from the world of vanity/Matrix and no longer have its values or wisdom.

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                    • #11
                      MOVING INTO PERFECTION, ''then that which is perfect is come''

                      as the Bride makes herself ready.
                      One fact is the fading away of 'our regrets'' - as vanity/matrix fades from view SO DO ALL our REGRETS,
                      how come?
                      those spots and wrinkles are all removed, as well as uncleanness so! as this happens, a disciple, takes personal responsibility for their walk and ceases to use '' the blame game'' [from their former nature] .
                      "Fear, shame CAUSE the blame game,"
                      Yeshua was always personally responsible to do the will of the Father- so does a disciple, and making excuses is a '' NO show''.
                      Living in vanity, there Is a CULTURE OF BLAMING another, YET Yeshua never did. By moving into perfection, the blame game ceases.
                      why?
                      because a disciple learns NOT TO BE HARD-HEADED from carnal minded thinking.
                      A New resistance occurs and just as a tree can bend in the wind because of its sinews, so a disciple can now bend to the Word.

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                      • #12
                        living in the Newness of Life..................................gaining liberty

                        and divine strength, divine courage and walking in a divine Kingdom zeal.
                        There does not seem to be very many 'companions' to walk with, as most religious people are very contented with their religious broadway and discuss the old ways that bring death.
                        None seem too interested in the New way and seemed blocked and hindered by their traditions.

                        For those disciples walking on the narrow way, Father eyes is constantly upon them and He tells them '' LOOK WITH NEW EYES, dont look with your old eyes.''
                        Plus eat the hidden manna and open your eyes to see into the spiritual world of ''thy Kingdom come''.
                        Close your natural eyes and ears and open your Spiritual ones and you will see all things.

                        Forget Egypt, forget Babylon.
                        but.........
                        what is Egypt and what is Babylon?
                        confused religious theories that kill
                        a counterfeit is in place of the Saviour's advice and yes, this counterfeit does look very attractive....but it is dead from dead men's teachings.
                        forget......
                        how, Mary Baker Eddy taught you
                        how, Ellen White taught you
                        how, the RC church taught you
                        how, Armstrongism taught you
                        how, Pentecostalism taught you,
                        how ,the Lutherian teaching infected you
                        And, the JW teaching corrupted you
                        How the Baptist teaching is stale manna,
                        Forget how all those 33,000 branches of confused 1/2 truths THAT murder the pews daily from lack of knowledge.
                        the whole group is the dead unanointed, the profiteers and the angels of light = posing- to the ignorant as ''JOIN US- we are the truth''

                        these religious SHOWS will never advance anyone into PERFECTING IN HIGHER DIMENSIONS.

                        Yeshua speaks to His Ekklesia to say
                        ''The religious system will divide and diminish in turmoil and confusion, but you my Sons will rescue them in due time but not at this moment.
                        I have you protected from the tongues of the scorners.''

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                        • #13
                          to be, the Father's plumbline...when our obedience is perfected.....

                          our heart is reaching out to find Him.
                          So this reality becomes our life experience,
                          how?
                          our father continues to draw his disciples, higher and higher upwards into Himself,
                          it is called ''drawing.''
                          HE DRAWS His disciple who actually is driven to find Him
                          why?

                          Because our soul, has ''fallen in love''

                          So a disciple's walk is from hilltop to hilltop ie. to grow higher and higher and we never settled now in any 'ism' but are drawn forwards into perfecting.
                          whats that mean?
                          We dont settle down on an ism and stay there eating stale manna, but become very close to Him so He moves us forwards as He woos us to live on the highest plain.
                          Our life is to be lived on the highest plain.

                          Father will not expect us to be defeated but DEMANDS us to surrender up everything that is flawed and imperfect.
                          an example...
                          Elijah is a Man WHO STANDS IN THE PRESENCE OF THE LORD = the same for the Ekklesia.
                          His Ekklesia is patterned like Elijah of old.
                          how?
                          THEIR FOCUS IS FIXED UPON THE HIGH CALLING [ the walk into perfection]
                          how does this happen?.
                          Father, SEPARATES the disciples from phony/deceived christians who have settled for less than Father's best, and the finished work of the cross.
                          so the result for the Ekklesia is................

                          They become the divine executives of THE DIVINE ESTATE, the heralds who bring forth the Kingdom.
                          how?
                          They are taught to know His ways, to know what He is doing
                          and what's that?
                          He is calling His royal Family up into a higher level = called the perfecting the saints.

                          ''come up higher'' He calls -
                          what happens then?
                          This call brings enormous change - real change
                          how?
                          Our vibrations = a change of energy - everything about a disciple is changing into divine energy,
                          and when this happens...
                          Our weights that have held us down are cast off, as His people ASCEND INTO HIS incorruptable LIFE...

                          updated
                          the phrase is ''called and chosen''........................
                          what is that?
                          an enlightenment comes, suddenly a whole new thinking happens in a twinkling of an eye, a new enlightenment comes in and this LIGHT has divine energy within IT... as per a 'light shining in a dark place''.
                          A divine connection happens of incorruptible life, [a quickening from mortal into immortal]
                          The dark place being our carnal vanity mindset full of misinformation and flaws that kill.
                          Unless this happens to a person [called apprehending] no amount of the ''telling of it'' will work on someone else. They will simply gap or laugh at such a ''ridiculous idea''.
                          The REVELATION OF ETERNAL LIFE NOW, holds within it the ''POWER'' of His resurrection = a spark of energy that births out divine power-life. [The POWER is the energy, that raises up OUT FROM THE DEAD]
                          it is like a light switch turned on to light up a bulb.
                          but
                          THIS IS ONLY THE BEGINNING of a walk into perfection.
                          the ''knowing'' has to be walked out in THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN reality. i.e. Yeshua KNEW but HE WALKED too.
                          So...because of this ''apprehending'' THE HOLY SPIRIT, will not allow sin the reign within.
                          IT IS SIMPLY zero tolerance, yet, grace and mercy do abound. The Holy Spirit begins His fire-storm within and the 'baptism of fire' does the clean up as He explains ''the washing of the word'', perfectly and what is EXPECTED of a novice and how they are to MATURE and become ADULT deliverers who come out from Zion.[ as living stones in the temple of God]
                          The first instruction is upon overcoming as overcAmers, and this is their dying upon their crosses and YES, Yeshua did fulfil the law but His people still need to die to sin within on the cross so that all their adamic baggage and wreckage is removed.[these are called burdens and weights]
                          As time passes, the overcoming tests are hard upon the ego of the disciple = this is the narrow walk into salvation, so that nothing of vanity remains but is BURNT UP and its ashes removed.[The Holy Spirit is a little like a dentist who jabs at rotten teeth and pulls them out as we scream] As this divine workmanship is going on, the overcoming is successful so that a disciple becomes FILLED UP WITH THE DIVINE ENERGY, THE SAME ENERGY AND POWER, YESHUA had/has.
                          LIFE POWER.......
                          AS THIS LIFE POWER INCREASES, the dark matter of the fallen ego decreases meaning- the darkness comes into the light.
                          It is like a voltage entering into the body and the body become as light.
                          so changes occur.
                          As the ''weights and burdens are removed'' a lightness appears. [ like a hot air balloon rising]
                          a disciple will notice this change but not immediately, and also a change of diet shall happen too.... namely... the king's dainties shall not longer appeal''
                          why not?
                          well as the soul submits to her spiritual true man of the heart, the body ceases to be demanding.
                          now here is something to think on so you will understand.
                          everything IN vanity is made for the pleasure of the body, in same way, the body is god, and must be obeyed,. Vanity is in charge of the body.

                          transformation begins to happen.
                          how?

                          The new way of eating rids the body of toxins and helps self healing the body is made to do.
                          Let us not forget, that our body is a self maintaining machine, wonderful made.

                          With the new diet, and the input of a ''higher power energy' the body is restored back to its full health, and eternal life can ripen into greater power.[raising the dead]
                          Last edited by LucySmith; 11-11-2013, 09:06 PM. Reason: updated..............further info....

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                          • #14
                            OVERCOMING - THE CHANGES that bring freedom......

                            liberty is true bible salvation.

                            slavery is vanity/matrix values we are all born into - and this vanity realm, is a fear based trauma reality + walking ALONG SIDE is the spirit of fleshly lusts
                            * trauma based fears
                            * all manner of lust, [the sexual one is the most effective for satanic control.]
                            infact a good example of these 2 flaws, is the school bully, as few can come to terms with such a person

                            Therefore, the HOLY spirit has to re-programme a disciple's mind, from the power of lust and fears.
                            this infact takes a while for changes to be noticed, but, after much overcoming these 2 great evil apostles of satan are removed and PERFECT LOVE, is replaced from fears.
                            f,e,a,r, = is ''false evidence appearing real,''

                            abstinance from all lusts becomes normal, as per, the walk of the Saviour.
                            Ofcourse for sexual desires, both husband and wife shall agree and unmarried people no longer fornicate nor bear any children of fornication.

                            notice, a fear based trauma is all around people of the Matrix are fear ridden, as fears are broadcastout 24/7 and then are implanted into the mind as a controlling technique so very few will notice.

                            So, now with freedom to progress, a disciple, can move further up the ladder into perfection as these 2 great hinderances fade away and become no longer a stronghold of satan.
                            how is this possible?
                            because a DISCIPLE HAS BEEN PERSUADED.........that's how.
                            this is how it works....
                            The Spirit of love, power, and a sound mind, is manifested within a disciple.
                            how?
                            As a result of being fully persuaded in the Father and His Word. [ this is a wisdom impartation]

                            When when a disciple is fully persuaded, "the spirit of fear becomes afraid, and runs away from our presence!"
                            did you see this truth?

                            freedom comes as the anointing grows....
                            perfection comes as sin is removed........
                            the walk into perfection is bit by bit - a person being is released from flaws and sins and a mind of madness

                            being fully persuaded is the begining - of RESTORATION into a sound mind.
                            being fully persuaded is the begining - becoming comfortable with Abba's will and intentions. [This is how Yeshua walked here]

                            When a person is not fully comfortable with the Will of Father, they remain obsessed with their own will.
                            so, because of this sin of retaining their own personal soulish Eve mind and will =what happens?

                            * frustration arises
                            * people do not see Father moving "expeditiously" towards them.
                            a good measuring stick is for our learning is...
                            The Word says "as He is, so are we, in this world!"

                            Is Father Lusty, fleshy and afraid?
                            perhaps it is time to shed the satanic controlling mechanism that murder the ignorant.

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                            • #15
                              a little insight.... ''doubting thomas''????

                              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                              liberty is true bible salvation.

                              slavery is vanity/matrix values we are all born into - and this vanity realm, is a fear based trauma reality + walking ALONG SIDE is the spirit of fleshly lusts
                              * trauma based fears
                              * all manner of lust, [the sexual one is the most effective for satanic control.]
                              infact a good example of these 2 flaws, is the school bully, as few can come to terms with such a person

                              Therefore, the HOLY spirit has to re-programme a disciple's mind, from the power of lust and fears.
                              this infact takes a while for changes to be noticed, but, after much overcoming these 2 great evil apostles of satan are removed and PERFECT LOVE, is replaced from fears.
                              f,e,a,r, = is ''false evidence appearing real,''

                              abstinance from all lusts becomes normal, as per, the walk of the Saviour.
                              Ofcourse for sexual desires, both husband and wife shall agree and unmarried people no longer fornicate nor bear any children of fornication.

                              notice, a fear based trauma is all around people of the Matrix are fear ridden, as fears are broadcastout 24/7 and then are implanted into the mind as a controlling technique so very few will notice.

                              So, now with freedom to progress, a disciple, can move further up the ladder into perfection as these 2 great hinderances fade away and become no longer a stronghold of satan.
                              how is this possible?
                              because a DISCIPLE HAS BEEN PERSUADED.........that's how.
                              this is how it works....
                              The Spirit of love, power, and a sound mind, is manifested within a disciple.
                              how?
                              As a result of being fully persuaded in the Father and His Word. [ this is a wisdom impartation]

                              When when a disciple is fully persuaded, "the spirit of fear becomes afraid, and runs away from our presence!"
                              did you see this truth?

                              freedom comes as the anointing grows....
                              perfection comes as sin is removed........
                              the walk into perfection is bit by bit - a person being is released from flaws and sins and a mind of madness

                              being fully persuaded is the begining - of RESTORATION into a sound mind.
                              being fully persuaded is the begining - becoming comfortable with Abba's will and intentions. [This is how Yeshua walked here]

                              When a person is not fully comfortable with the Will of Father, they remain obsessed with their own will.
                              so, because of this sin of retaining their own personal soulish Eve mind and will =what happens?

                              * frustration arises
                              * people do not see Father moving "expeditiously" towards them.
                              a good measuring stick is for our learning is...
                              The Word says "as He is, so are we, in this world!"

                              Is Father Lusty, fleshy and afraid?
                              perhaps it is time to shed the satanic controlling mechanism that murder the ignorant.

                              moving into perfection.............
                              the Lord's Disciple Thomas, was called Didymus - THE TWIN.
                              generally twins are a total reflection of each other. the NT bible does not mention exactly why Thomas is called THE TWIN.
                              Question?
                              in the perfecting process of re-gene-ration do saints meet their twin? i.e.- the perfected reflection of themselves or their mirror image?
                              In the 'perfect realm' you re-unite with your “twin” who is a total reflection of you.
                              yes/no/maybe?

                              I believe so.[adam and eve were MADE FROM EACH OTHER and for each other - in the ideal world].

                              http://reluctant-messenger.com/gospel-of-thomas.htm
                              The Apostle Thomas was also called Didymus which in the Greek means Twin or Double.
                              AGAIN some info...
                              The Gnostics called Thomas the Twin Brother of Jesus.
                              It turns out that this is also a metaphor for the soul and spirit.
                              The secret information that is hidden in the Gospel in coded form is how the soul and spirit must become one in a special divine marriage to prevent the second death from occurring.
                              The similies of marriage, female into male, and two into one, are coded messages about the secret to eternal life.

                              ummmm..........
                              all rather interesting, as are the mention of ''families in heaven''.
                              we all need our true SPIRITUAL EYES opened and come to understand 'spiritual marriage''.
                              we need to consider ''a marriage made by Father or a mismatched union on earth''.
                              plenty of mismatches....
                              we need to understand Yeshua's words on marriage and they are not as the ''church system'' offers as their misinformation programme.
                              [the whole ''atmosphere of heaven'' is one of marriage and reproduction and life and fruitfulness and abundance of love joy and peace.]
                              delete all church misinformation and carnal minded renderings of the divine scriptures please.
                              Yeshua's words need to be looked at in a far deeper way. [''families in heaven'' does not relate to'' NO marriage in Heaven'' - a very popular misconception]

                              a Father is Head of His Family and the word Family means marriage and reproduction and if we look at this world we will see ''marriage'' is reflected in all of creation
                              .
                              not only that,
                              the Father is the head, the active one, the creator and planner
                              the Mother is the nurturing one of love and compassion and caring,
                              = 2 sides of one coin, but the coin has 2 parts.
                              in DISCIPLES perfecting they come into a correct understanding of this mystery that has been so deformed by man.

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