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  • The coming of the "Son of man"....

    The “Son of man”…the life of Jesus who is to appear in our mortal flesh… is betrayed into the hands of sinners. Many of His people are “asleep” and need to be awakened up to the fact that they are being led astray by the flattering lips of men (the kiss of Judas) who handle the Word of God deceitfully for unjust gain. They prevent His life from appearing in the mortal flesh by their destructive teachings. NO FLESH will not be saved if these days will not be cut short by Him.

    MANY are led astray unto destruction…to the destruction of their flesh…by the flattering lips…the “kiss” of death.

    Mark 14:41-46 KJV
    (41) And he cometh the third time, and saith unto them, Sleep on now, and take your rest: it is enough, the hour is come; behold, the Son of man is betrayed into the hands of sinners.


    If the Lord does not come to “wake” us up from our “sleep”, then NO FLESH would be saved. “Rise up, let us go”. The betrayer is “at hand”….right in our “churches”.

    (42) Rise up, let us go; lo, he that betrayeth me is at hand.

    A “great multitude” have come into our presence in the same way Judas came to betray Jesus. They have come to take His life from appearing in our mortal flesh by deceit.

    (43) And immediately, while he yet spake, cometh Judas, one of the twelve, and with him a great multitude with swords and staves, from the chief priests and the scribes and the elders.
    (44) And he that betrayed him had given them a token, saying, Whomsoever I shall kiss, that same is he; take him, and lead him away safely.
    (45) And as soon as he was come, he goeth straightway to him, and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.
    (46) And they laid their hands on him, and took him.


    His life is prevented from appearing in our mortal flesh by the deceivers….the many antichrists…who deny that Jesus comes in our mortal flesh. They say we have to “die and go to heaven” first as they lead us astray to our own destruction from off this earth.

    2 John 1:7-8 KJV
    (7) For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
    (8) Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.


    This is the law and the prophets…..have love for one another.

    Matthew 7:12-15 KJV
    (12) Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.

    But false prophets come to us in sheep’s clothing and lead the MANY to destruction of the flesh. They come to take away the “daily” sacrifice…which is to have love for one another as He loved us and gave His life for us and they put up the “abomination of desolation”…covetousness. Many live according to the lusts of men in the high places of the churches who suppose that gain is godliness. MANY are led astray unto destruction…as they perish from off the face of the earth. They are “lost sheep”…that is, perishing sheep.

    (13) Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:

    Only the FEW have found the road which leads unto life.

    (14) Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
    (15) Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.


    We are looking for the “Son of man” to appear in our own flesh. But false Christs and false prophets have us looking in all other directions. The life of Christ within us is to appear in our very own flesh…and that is where we are to look for His coming and not where they say He is.

    Matthew 24:24-27 KJV
    (24) For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
    (25) Behold, I have told you before.
    (26) Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.


    The “lightning” comes out of the “east”…which means the “rising of light”.... within the dark place of our own hearts and it shines to the “west”…which means “to SINK into”. We “sink into” Christ as putting on a new outer garment. His life appears within our dark hearts first and shines outwardly to our mortal flesh so that we may glorify Him to the outside world.

    (27) For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

    The Light shines in a dark place as the “day dawn” and the day star arises in our hearts…the “EAST”.

    2 Peter 1:18-21 KJV
    (18) And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount.
    (19) We have also a more sure word of prophecy; whereunto ye do well that ye take heed, as unto a light that shineth in a dark place, until the day dawn, and the day star arise in your hearts:
    (20) Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.
    (21) For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man: but holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.


    Again, the Light shines out of darkness…shining in our hearts….the “east”.

    2 Corinthians 4:5-12 KJV
    (5) For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
    (6) For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
    (7) But we have this treasure in earthen vessels, that the excellency of the power may be of God, and not of us.
    (8) We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed, but not in despair;
    (9) Persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down, but not destroyed;


    And the Light shines to the appearing of the life of Jesus being made “manifest”…that is, SHINING..in our mortal bodies so that we may glorify Him to the outside dark world.

    (10) Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
    (11) For we which live are alway delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our mortal flesh.
    (12) So then death worketh in us, but life in you.

    We “put on”..that is, SINK INTO (the meaning of “west”) the armor of Light. We “sink into” the Lord Jesus Christ…as His life is made “manifest”…shining…in our mortal flesh so that we may glorify Him. He did not come to take us OUT of the world but to keep us from its evil.

    Romans 13:12-14 KJV
    (12) The night is far spent, the day is at hand: let us therefore cast off the works of darkness, and let us put on the armour of light.
    (13) Let us walk honestly, as in the day; not in rioting and drunkenness, not in chambering and wantonness, not in strife and envying.
    (14) But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to fulfil the lusts thereof.

  • #2
    yes that is the truth u have posted 2013 amen and thank you.

    those who love each other as brethren, have the truth for this divine truth enables LOVE TO FLORISH and love florishes WHEN IT IS IN UNITY.

    and Yes, we are to sink into the Saviour and be swallowed up by His presence.
    and Yes, when we do this we become as He is for He devours our spots and wrinkles by the light of His appearing.

    whosoever you are 2013
    i am glad u have appeared here to post, as a witness TO THE POWER OF DIVINE LIFE over the angel of death and its covenant and whatismore delightful -1 puts 1000 to fight and 2 puts 10000 to flight - indeed the power of 2 LIFE witnesses is awesome.

    THE WITNESSES of ETERNAL life carry many blessings namely His treasures of His promise of GIVING of ABUNDANT LIFE.




    ----------------------------updated-
    on a personal level i find the #2013 chosen by yourself rather interesting................


    http://studybible.info/strongs/G2013

    http://studybible.info/search/KJV_Strongs/G2013

    [ as you aka 2013 responds to my post today on ''ATTAINING'',[post # 94]
    This NEW LIFE that Paul speaks about in Phil 3 is a LIFE he wishes to ATTAIN to, here not when he is dead
    why would Paul say “...IF by any means...” he wanted to ATTAIN it?
    Last edited by LucySmith; 09-07-2013, 08:14 PM.

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    • #3
      very interesting

      Thanks for showing that synchronicity with the #2013. Very interesting!

      I like to share thoughts that run through my mind. So please forgive me of the length of the next post and I don’t want you to think that I am “preaching” to you. Just like to put the info out there for consideration and it also helps me to see it more clearly when I type it out.

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      • #4
        the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.....

        Indeed, how pleasant it is for brothers to dwell together in unity…..for in that spot Jehovah has commanded the blessing: “life for evermore”….in the here and now. When we have love for one another, life covers us as the precious ointment .

        Psalms 133:1-3 KJV
        (1) A Song of degrees of David. Behold, how good and how pleasant it is for brethren to dwell together in unity!
        (2) It is like the precious ointment upon the head, that ran down upon the beard, even Aaron's beard: that went down to the skirts of his garments;
        (3) As the dew of Hermon, and as the dew that descended upon the mountains of Zion: for there the LORD commanded the blessing, even life for evermore.


        Which is echoed by Peter: we are to have “one mind” having compassion one of another……for we shall inherit a blessing: “eternal life”. That life is NOW…not after we “die and go to heaven” as others preach their “covenant with death” and keep their agreement with the grave.

        1 Peter 3:8-10 KJV
        (8) Finally, be ye all of one mind, having compassion one of another, love as brethren, be pitiful, be courteous:
        (9) Not rendering evil for evil, or railing for railing: but contrariwise blessing; knowing that ye are thereunto called, that ye should inherit a blessing.


        It is all about what comes out of the mouth that defiles the whole body. The “tongue” is likened to the “woman” to the “hidden man” of the heart. Lusts starts within the heart and the tongue (which speaks what is in the heart) gives birth to evil speaking…sin…and when sin is finished, it gives birth to the death of the mortal body. We decay…we perish away to the grave…because of the tongue.

        (10) For he that will love life, and see good days, let him refrain his tongue from evil, and his lips that they speak no guile:


        The tongue gives the body “fruit” to eat whether it be life or death. A man’s belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth.

        Proverbs 18:20-23 KJV
        (20) A man's belly shall be satisfied with the fruit of his mouth; and with the increase of his lips shall he be filled.

        Death and life are in the power (Hebrew: hand) of the tongue and they that love it shall eat the fruit of it.

        (21) Death and life are in the power of the tongue: and they that love it shall eat the fruit thereof.

        Finding a “wife” is choosing life with the tongue….refraining the tongue from evil and the lips from speaking deceit. A tongue can be a “tree of life”.

        (22) Whoso findeth a wife findeth a good thing, and obtaineth favour of the LORD.

        All of this goes back to the garden.Of every tree of the garden we may freely eat.

        Genesis 2:16-17 KJV
        (16) And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, Of every tree of the garden thou mayest freely eat:


        We many eat of the fruit of the Spirit which is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, etc. Against such there is no law for we are free to eat of every tree of the garden.

        Galatians 5:22-23 KJV
        (22) But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
        (23) Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.


        And again, wisdom from above if full of mercy and good fruits….that we are free to eat.

        James 3:17-18 KJV
        (17) But the wisdom that is from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, and easy to be intreated, full of mercy and good fruits, without partiality, and without hypocrisy.
        (18) And the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace of them that make peace.


        But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, we shall not eat of it….

        Genesis 2:17 KJV
        (17) But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die.


        This “tree of the knowledge of good and evil” is found paraphrased in everyday language by James. The tree is the using of the same mouth to bless God (knowledge of good) and curse men (evil). Out of the same mouth proceeds blessing and cursing. Men are as trees which bear fruit. Either we bear good fruit or bad.

        James 3:8-12 KJV
        (8) But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
        (9) Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.


        These things should not be….

        (10) Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be.
        (11) Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
        (12) Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.


        When we continue to use our tongues likewise, the mortal body decays and brings us sorrow until the body returns back to the ground from which we were taken. We let our tongues...the weaker vessel... rule over us. But it is the hidden man of the heart that is to rule over the tongue. Christ within us gives us the power to rule over sin that so easily comes out of our mouths.

        Genesis 3:17-19 KJV
        (17) And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;
        (18) Thorns also and thistles shall it bring forth to thee; and thou shalt eat the herb of the field;
        (19) In the sweat of thy face shalt thou eat bread, till thou return unto the ground; for out of it wast thou taken: for dust thou art, and unto dust shalt thou return.


        This is the problem with the MANY in the “churches”….they have been deceived away from the simplicity that is found in Christ as they follow false prophets who speak deceit and lead many astray from having love for one another and into their denominations of envying and strife. They judge each other over carnal commandments as they seek to keep the traditions of religious-sounding men rather than the doctrine of Christ: have love for one another.

        It all starts with adding to the simplicity found in Christ. They complicate His commandment to have love for one another and put it aside in order to keep the traditions of men. They preach another Jesus.

        The woman adds a carnal ordinance to what God said: “neither shall you touch it” which God did not say. Now with that kind of thinking, the false prophets have a foothold into deceiving others.

        Genesis 3:1-6 KJV
        (1) Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
        (2) And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden:
        (3) But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.


        “Ye shall not surely die” should be translated: “Dying, you shall not die”. In other words, we can “kill” another with our tongues by speaking evil of them and have peace and safety. False prophets encourage the misuse of the tongue as they judge others for not following their particular denominational doctrine or commandment of man. They lay aside His commandment to have love for each other in order to keep their doctrines and commandments of men which lead us away from the Truth. "Ye shall not surely die" = "Dying, you shall not die"....by "killing" another, you shall not die. Because sentence against an evil work is not executed speedily, the heart of the sons of men is fully set in them to do evil (Ecclesiastes 8:11).

        (4) And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die:

        “For God does know”….the false prophets teach that by judging others they are doing God “service” . The time comes when those who will “kill” you think that they are doing God service. “You shall be as gods knowing good and evil”. “Gods” = elohim = JUDGES. Then see themselves as wise knowing good and evil and act as judges speaking evil of others. In a sense, they become judge, jury and executioner of another. This should not be: blessing God and cursing men with the same mouth.

        (5) For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

        Again, in James we find this paraphrased. Those who speak evil of another are being “judges”…elohim…. “gods”. Speaking evil of another is not doing the law of Christ….having love for each other. “You shall be as gods knowing good and evil”….being judges of others and of the law of Christ as they do not do it and think as being above it. “Gods” = elohim = JUDGES.

        James 4:11-12 KJV
        (11) Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge.
        (12) There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgest another?


        continued in next post....

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        • #5
          the tree of the knowledge of good and evil.....continued...

          continued from previous post....




          And so desiring to be seen as wise, religious-sounding men open their mouths to speak evil of another. They bless God and then with the same mouth curse men who have been made in His image….partaking of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. Death and life are in the power of the tongue and those who love it shall eat the fruit thereof. Men are perishing away to the grave because of the spirit of error.

          Genesis 3:6 KJV
          (6) And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.


          We are to show ourselves wise and endued with knowledge instead by behaving with the meekness of wisdom.

          James 3:11-14 KJV
          (11) Doth a fountain send forth at the same place sweet water and bitter?
          (12) Can the fig tree, my brethren, bear olive berries? either a vine, figs? so can no fountain both yield salt water and fresh.
          (13) Who is a wise man and endued with knowledge among you? let him shew out of a good conversation his works with meekness of wisdom.
          (14) But if ye have bitter envying and strife in your hearts, glory not, and lie not against the truth.

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          • #6
            Babylon....the flattering tongue of men....

            “Babylon” is the flattering tongue of religious-sounding men who lead many to the destruction of their flesh. They take away the life of Jesus from appearing in our mortal flesh. The flattering tongue of men speak good words and fair speeches in order to lead the simple…the MANY…astray.

            Romans 16:17-18 KJV
            (17) Now I beseech you, brethren, mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which ye have learned; and avoid them.
            (18) For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ, but their own belly; and by good words and fair speeches deceive the hearts of the simple
            .

            “Babylon”….the flattering tongue of religious-sounding men…is the “strange woman” who leads the simple to the death of their mortal bodies. Her “house” inclines unto death and her paths unto the dead. None that go unto her return neither do they take hold of the paths of life. Once many join a “church”, they never leave until they carry you out in a casket and bury you in a church graveyard. MANY are being led astray down the broad way to destruction.

            Proverbs 2:12-22 KJV
            (12) To deliver thee from the way of the evil man, from the man that speaketh froward things;
            (13) Who leave the paths of uprightness, to walk in the ways of darkness;
            (14) Who rejoice to do evil, and delight in the frowardness of the wicked;
            (15) Whose ways are crooked, and they froward in their paths:
            (16) To deliver thee from the strange woman, even from the stranger which flattereth with her words;
            (17) Which forsaketh the guide of her youth, and forgetteth the covenant of her God.
            (18) For her house inclineth unto death, and her paths unto the dead.
            (19) None that go unto her return again, neither take they hold of the paths of life.
            (20) That thou mayest walk in the way of good men, and keep the paths of the righteous.
            (21) For the upright shall dwell in the land, and the perfect shall remain in it.
            (22) But the wicked shall be cut off from the earth, and the transgressors shall be rooted out of it.


            The “evil woman” is the flattering tongue of men who preach strange doctrines….leading many astray. The “adulteress” will hunt for the precious life….the life of Jesus… who “she” takes away from those who listen to them.

            Proverbs 6:23-26 KJV
            (23) For the commandment is a lamp; and the law is light; and reproofs of instruction are the way of life:
            (24) To keep thee from the evil woman, from the flattery of the tongue of a strange woman.
            (25) Lust not after her beauty in thine heart; neither let her take thee with her eyelids.
            (26) For by means of a whorish woman a man is brought to a piece of bread: and the adulteress will hunt for the precious life.


            Their mouths are used for deceit. The “strange woman”…the flattering tongue of deceitful men… is a narrow pit….a deceitful grave.

            Proverbs 23:26-28 KJV
            (26) My son, give me thine heart, and let thine eyes observe my ways.
            (27) For a whore is a deep ditch; and a strange woman is a narrow pit.
            (28) She also lieth in wait as for a prey, and increaseth the transgressors among men.


            Those who serve the own bellies (covetousness) do not serve our Lord Jesus Christ. They use their tongues to hide their deceit as they preach “good words and fair speeches” to deceive the simple. They employ “Babylon”…the flattering tongue…to enrich themselves as they take away the life of Jesus from appearing in their listeners. The “stranger” flatters with words and seduce the “simple ones”….those who are void of understanding.


            Proverbs 7:4-27 KJV
            (4) Say unto wisdom, Thou art my sister; and call understanding thy kinswoman:
            (5) That they may keep thee from the strange woman, from the stranger which flattereth with her words.
            (6) For at the window of my house I looked through my casement,
            (7) And beheld among the simple ones, I discerned among the youths, a young man void of understanding,
            (8) Passing through the street near her corner; and he went the way to her house,
            (9) In the twilight, in the evening, in the black and dark night:

            They use flattering words….good words and fair speeches…to cover up their covetousness as they seduce those who incline their ears to hear them. MANY have been led astray. They seek us out….they compass land and sea to make one twice the son of “hell”…the grave.

            (10) And, behold, there met him a woman with the attire of an harlot, and subtil of heart.
            (11) (She is loud and stubborn; her feet abide not in her house:
            (12) Now is she without, now in the streets, and lieth in wait at every corner.)
            (13) So she caught him, and kissed him, and with an impudent face said unto him,
            (14) I have peace offerings with me; this day have I payed my vows.
            (15) Therefore came I forth to meet thee, diligently to seek thy face, and I have found thee.
            (16) I have decked my bed with coverings of tapestry, with carved works, with fine linen of Egypt.
            (17) I have perfumed my bed with myrrh, aloes, and cinnamon.
            (18) Come, let us take our fill of love until the morning: let us solace ourselves with loves.
            (19) For the goodman is not at home, he is gone a long journey:
            (20) He hath taken a bag of money with him, and will come home at the day appointed.


            With her MUCH “fair speeches” do they cause MANY to yield. With the flattering lips of religious-sounding men do they cause MANY to go astray after them.

            (21) With her much fair speech she caused him to yield, with the flattering of her lips she forced him.

            But they do not know that it is for their life….the life of Jesus…do they take. MANY are “slain” by her…as her house is the way to the grave (hell)…going down to the chambers of death.

            (22) He goeth after her straightway, as an ox goeth to the slaughter, or as a fool to the correction of the stocks;
            (23) Till a dart strike through his liver; as a bird hasteth to the snare, and knoweth not that it is for his life.
            (24) Hearken unto me now therefore, O ye children, and attend to the words of my mouth.
            (25) Let not thine heart decline to her ways, go not astray in her paths.
            (26) For she hath cast down many wounded: yea, many strong men have been slain by her.
            (27) Her house is the way to hell, going down to the chambers of death.


            The lips of a strange woman drop as a honeycomb….her mouth is smoother than oil.

            Proverbs 5:2-13 KJV
            (2) That thou mayest regard discretion, and that thy lips may keep knowledge.
            (3) For the lips of a strange woman drop as an honeycomb, and her mouth is smoother than oil:
            (4) But her end is bitter as wormwood, sharp as a twoedged sword.


            But if we listen to the flattering tongue of religious-sounding men, we do go down to our death….as “eternal life”…the life of Jesus being manifested in our mortal flesh never appears. We die just like the rest of the world….decaying away to the grave…perishing.

            (5) Her feet go down to death; her steps take hold on hell.
            (6) Lest thou shouldest ponder the path of life, her ways are moveable, that thou canst not know them.
            (7) Hear me now therefore, O ye children, and depart not from the words of my mouth.
            (8) Remove thy way far from her, and come not nigh the door of her house:


            We are to remove our way far from “her” and not come near their mouths….the “door of her house”, for if we do, then we might be seduced into joining them in their covenant with death. We will give our wealth to them and our labors in the house of a “stranger” as they take away our lives.

            (9) Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel:
            (10) Lest strangers be filled with thy wealth; and thy labours be in the house of a stranger;


            Our flesh and body will be consumed by them….as we perish..decay…away to the grave…without the life of Jesus being manifested in our mortal flesh.

            (11) And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed,
            (12) And say, How have I hated instruction, and my heart despised reproof;
            (13) And have not obeyed the voice of my teachers, nor inclined mine ear to them that instructed me!

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