to eddy.[a good peace of advice laddy]

[LucySmith]

DO NOT ALLOW the religious WARLORDS of Judaizerism at Lo ammi to teach you anything PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

simply go to the NT open it up ask the Holy Spirit to guide you into His Belief and take it from there.
THE religious WARLORDS of lo ammi - are not the right teachers Apostle Paul warned the ancients on people like this 2 men.... beware.

[Lord Willmore]

Edmund Dantes' profile is not letting me reply, I am usually kicked off when I start asking about dinosaurs. I don't think this was on purpose, I screw up computers pretty quickly and this new one I stll cant use.

Lucy - you may answer too if you want. If i asked a Jew, they would tell me to open the OT, the LDS, the book or morman, a Muslim, the quran, there's a guy on TV right now telling me to go to his church. And should I not get the answer they thought was the truth? It would be because of satan. And who's to say I haven't done what you ask? But i am not looking for religion, I am looking for answers to questions that normally get everyone pissed off and start envoking supernatural answers as to why some one would dare to question their religious reasoning.

[LucySmith]

well dont look to me for your religion babes

i hate it.



SOLUTION....
what u need is the real teacher CALLED H.O.L.Y.............................Lord Holy Spirit to teach lord willmore.



THATS RIGHT - it is not a man - but a LIFE SPIRIT.


men teach their religion - it is a real puker for sure


- the Holy Spirit teaches THE SAME BELIEF SYSTEM AS THE HIGH PRIEST HAS CALLED YESHUA - THE ORDER OF MELCHEDIZECK. Thats is the one u need to understand.


NOW if u want to mess with religious men and their churchy ways please now consider this AS PROOF of a failed mission.

their system has over 33000 different sects and even more divisions - they pop up so fast no one can keep count - however each one has ''THE TRUTH'' in their eyes - but the main problem is this [true fact]

NOT ONE OF THEM HAS EVER REPRODUCED ANY 1 PERSON IN THE SAME LIKENESS AS THE SAVIOUR IN MINISTRY OR IN DEED - 2000YRS of bible study, preaching, church buildings, tapes and cds aplenty choirs and hymns and missionaries all over this world preachin' their hearts out - but alas - it is all powerless and worthless rhetoric. Yes it does contain 1/2 truth that appeal to the ignorant and yes it mixes paganism too - so it is a melting pot of religious lies but it appeals to the masses.
their hearts swoon over these types of beliefs.

but what is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO AMAZING, is people still go - the brainless sheep never seem to get it. CHURCH FAILS TO REPRODUCE 'CHRIST' in any person.
IT IS A SCAM
IT IS A DECEPTION
IT IS A LIE
IT IS THE CHURCH OF THE LOST AND MAIMED AND A SPIRITUALLY HOSPICE FOR THE DYING THE LAME AND CRIPPLED PEOPLE.

IT IS A JOKE.

these are things u have to consider before ye listen to any man and his belief.
but i do think Lord Willmore - you please yourself - you can be conned as are the masses by ''pimps in the pulpit as religious experts'' or stay simple - just you the bible and the holy Spirit.

''ask No man to teach you for your have an unction with the Holy Spirit''

let me tell u one little secret.
'' you are firstly a spiritual pre-existing being - lowered into vanity unwillingly in a human body [ you were not asked - it simply happened''.

When u came here U entered the Matrix that appears real but it is a dream world ruled over by the prince of the power of the air. all religious beliefs are of a Matrix origin - despite their claims.
tHE WAYS OF THE SAVIOUR OF THE WORLD IS NOT A RELIGION - he did not come to start a new religion HE CAME TO BRING LIFE, TRUE LIFE TO THE WORLD OF DEAD MEN WALKING
its about a new form of relationship that brings back TRUE LIFE.
therefore u have to decide if u want to remain a slave and a lame man in the realm of vanity u were lowered into unwillingly - or - if you actually have to GUTS AND THE COURAGE to rebel at your slavery to a system that is a lie.

only u can decide. think of yourself as NEO
now a good way to see for yourself is to hire the 1st film of the Matrix and sit and watch it [ only the 1st one not the other 2] just the 1st one -till you actually come into an understanding of what this world is and then how to escape from it.
- it is the best living MODERN parable Father God has allowed to expose the realm of satan, the vanity he controls and how to LEARN TO BELIEVE THE SAVIOUR.
u will never find Neo in any world religions no matter their claims as Neo is OUTSIDE OF THE MATRIX

[LucySmith]

again.. and uptodate version - this world...

http://www.davidicke.com/headlines/63134-david-icke-mind-over-matrix

THE DREAM WORLD OF CONTROL needs to be exposed - this guy is carnalminded - but he is good at exposing a lie.


leave the world
leave the thoughts of men
leave them to their religion
leave...................................
exit.....................................
move


GET THE KEY OF LIFE.

and get REAL

LEARN HOW TO LIVE IN REALITY.

[Lord Willmore]

So Lucy, let me ask you this...what is the purpose of death? Why would god create humans if they had a pre-existing spirit....sounds like a pre-exixtance was in heavan and probably pretty good., why bother creating this play only to have those spirits wind up in hell? If you answer 'I dont know' that is a perfectly acceptable answer, as long as you want to know. Those who know everything arent real quizical people. Agents smith's answer was the human brain couldn't live in a perfect world,but I would assume a god would have a better reason.

[LucySmith]

go find out for yourself like i did Lord willmore...

dont rely upon 2nd handed information.....[unless it is anointed and edifying]

if u want the reality of the truth you have to seek for it - seek and search is an activity like a detective who hunts for clues.
Neo was looking for the truth and after a few false starts found it.
whatever THE truth he found shattered Mr Smith to pieces and Neo was able to stop all the bullets from harming him
he had been reprogrammed into a NEW CREATION.

however..........................
the truth never falls into your lap like a ripe cherry..
good luck and goodbye

[ImAHebrew]

So Lucy, let me ask you this...what is the purpose of death? Why would god create humans if they had a pre-existing spirit....sounds like a pre-exixtance was in heavan and probably pretty good., why bother creating this play only to have those spirits wind up in hell? If you answer 'I dont know' that is a perfectly acceptable answer, as long as you want to know. Those who know everything arent real quizical people. Agents smith's answer was the human brain couldn't live in a perfect world,but I would assume a god would have a better reason.

Shalom LW, Sweet Lucy has certain teachings she feels are important, but most questions like the one you present isn't something she is capable of answering correctly, and she really isn't interested in answering. This is why she brushed you off with "go find out for yourself like I did." She pretends as if she knows how to answer the question with that response, but she really can't. Those who believe in a false gospel, as she does, are at a complete loss in answering your question correctly. She and they think that some "voodoo" gospel of having someone die in your place, keeps you from going to hell...such nonsense. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

[LucySmith]

Shalom LW, Sweet Lucy has certain teachings she feels are important, but most questions like the one you present isn't something she is capable of answering correctly, and she really isn't interested in answering. This is why she brushed you off with "go find out for yourself like I did." She pretends as if she knows how to answer the question with that response, but she really can't. Those who believe in a false gospel, as she does, are at a complete loss in answering your question correctly. She and they think that some "voodoo" gospel of having someone die in your place, keeps you from going to hell...such nonsense. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

so IAH - the deluded mod who rides the beast of Judaizerism - WHAT IS WRONG ADVISING A PERSON TO ASK THE HOLY SPIRIT TO TEACH THEM PERSONALLY?
I GAVE HIM VITAL INFORMATION YOU KNOW NOTHING OF AS YOUR'E MAN TAUGHT AND NOT God wrought.
YOU TEACH THIS MAN and he becomes accursed.


1 john. 2 v 27

'But you have received the Holy Spirit, and he lives within you, so you don't need anyone to teach you what is true. For the Spirit teaches you everything you need to know, and what he teaches is true--it is not a lie. So just as he has taught you, remain in fellowship with Christ.

John 6:45
It is written in the Prophets
: 'They will all be taught by God.'
Everyone who listens to the Father and learns from him comes to me.

John 14:16
And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Counselor to be with you forever--

John 14:26
But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.

well Judaizer.... see how your lies expose your ignorance.

Hebrews 8:11
''No longer will a man teach his neighbor, or a man his brother, saying, 'Know the Lord,' because they will all know me, from the least of them to the greatest''.

it is a shame you MISSED THE HOLY TEACHER IAH - and taught yourself your own lawkeeping gospel and then listened to other corrupted theories from your phony teachers - for you see nothing you teach ever originates from His holy teacher Mr Judaizer [ a person who wants to mix the law to the jews with the new covenant of Christ the law of life]

perhaps you should promote yourself as ''IAH a splinter group teacher of Judaizers''.

John 14:26
''But the Counselor, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, will teach you all things and will remind you of everything I have said to you.''

the NT is very clear about you Mr Judaizer - and how you try so hard to destroy the Gospel
that is a heap of bible witnesses against you and proves the lie you are trying so hard to foster...... .
perhaps it is time to put away your man held theories and your adverse opinions against Apostle Paul.
it is nothing to beat up me and my bible held beliefs - but what of beating up a God bought Apostle.
and while i am on a roll IAH - you also BLASPHEME THE HOLY SPIRIT too.

youre in very deep doo doo .

your RELIGIOUS CREDIBILITY HAS TAKEN A HUGE HIT IAH.
THE TRUTH IS STAKED AGAINST YOUR phony teaching ability.

Galatians 4:1-9

New International Version


Galatians 4

1 What I am saying is that as long as the heir is a child, he is no different from a slave, although he owns the whole estate.
2 He is subject to guardians and trustees until the time set by his father.
3 So also, when we were children, we were in slavery under the basic principles of the world.
4 But when the time had fully come, God sent his Son, born of a woman, born under law,
5 to redeem those under law, that we might receive the full rights of sons.
6 Because you are sons, God sent the Spirit of his Son into our hearts, the Spirit who calls out, “Abba,[a] Father.”
7 So you are no longer a slave, but a son; and since you are a son, God has made you also an heir.

Paul’s Concern for the Galatians
8 Formerly, when you did not know God, you were slaves to those who by nature are not gods.
9 But now that you know God—or rather are known by God—how is it that you are turning back to those weak and miserable principles?
Do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?

do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?
do you wish to be enslaved by them all over again?

[Lord Willmore]

Lucy, in all honesty, you did tell me the secret of the pre-existing spirit, i would not have asked if i didn't hear of it. So now that I have i am curious of the proof. hebrew says he agrees that there is a pre-existing spirit, I say it sounds pretty nuts but extradinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

This leads me to say, Hebrew, if you know, can you prove it? Or at least explain it? I will not judge if its nuts, and would be really surprized if i wind up saying your explanation makes sense.

Perhaps Lucy you may find common ground with Hebrew on this....Im not holding my breathe lol, but it never hurts to ask questions. Only hurts not to. Thank you.

[LucySmith]

no i have No common ground with a heretic

go read

http://theresurgence.com/2010/07/28/the-judaizers-know-your-heretics

this poison is what spying [who has confessed his awefull sin] and IAH who remains unrepentant and an enemy of the Gospel.

[ImAHebrew]

LW, you are an interesting person.

Lucy, in all honesty, you did tell me the secret of the pre-existing spirit, i would not have asked if i didn't hear of it. So now that I have i am curious of the proof. hebrew says he agrees that there is a pre-existing spirit, I say it sounds pretty nuts but extradinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

This leads me to say, Hebrew, if you know, can you prove it? Or at least explain it? I will not judge if its nuts, and would be really surprized if i wind up saying your explanation makes sense.

Perhaps Lucy you may find common ground with Hebrew on this....Im not holding my breathe lol, but it never hurts to ask questions. Only hurts not to. Thank you.

Shalom LW, preexistence, an interesting topic. Can it be proven? Not really, but some very logical explanations do exist if you examine the Scriptures closely. Scriptures state that Satan was a murderer from the "beginning," (John 8:44) Who was murdered? Most would say humans, but is that really the truth? Now, here is where you need to think just a little. What if "God" was a unity of spirit beings that existed together before the beginning of this "age," the Adamic age, and that unity was destroyed by revolt or rebellion (led by HaSatan). Wouldn't that rebellion be viewed as a "murder" of the unity that was within the family of those spirits? I truly think it could and that disruption or disharmony within the Sons of Elohim caused the destruction of what "God" was. That was a "death" and after that death a plan was put into place by those who wanted to reestablish the unity of those spirits back into the oneness of Elohim, and that plan entailed that we give up what we were, and become humans in this age so that through the glorious work of our Saviour Yeshua (in living and then dying), a restoration could take place to bring about the unifying of those spirits again into One Body. Those who fail to believe and conform to the restored Body of Elohim and join Him as spirits which agree with His Will, will be cut off and cast into outer darkness. That outer darkness is the 2nd death, and that is the death you truly don't want to be part of (Rev 2:11, 20:6, 20:14, and 21:8). I hope this answer helps you LW. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew.

[Lord Willmore]

The problem I find with this idea is it brings into question Gods intelligence, or foresight, and his power. As though this happened even though he didnt want it to. Lends credence to the idea that satan would have a fighting chance. The idea that everyone is a part of god is a popular one umong umong many religions, and is an enticing one. It gives us the ability to explain the unexplainable, why we feel connected to one another. Though that is human nature, to invoke god when we are unable to explain something. Zues used to throw lighting bolts, now it is static elelectricity.

Assuming what you say is true it would seems this all is god's fault rather than his creation. Whats with the outer darkness? Why this judgement of all mankind for the train wreck that he caused?

[ImAHebrew]

The problem I find with this idea is it brings into question Gods intelligence, or foresight, and his power. As though this happened even though he didnt want it to. Lends credence to the idea that satan would have a fighting chance. The idea that everyone is a part of god is a popular one umong umong many religions, and is an enticing one. It gives us the ability to explain the unexplainable, why we feel connected to one another. Though that is human nature, to invoke god when we are unable to explain something. Zues used to throw lighting bolts, now it is static elelectricity.

Assuming what you say is true it would seems this all is god's fault rather than his creation. Whats with the outer darkness? Why this judgement of all mankind for the train wreck that he caused?

Shalom LW, you are a good thinker. I can tell that by the questions you ask and the way you write. One of the things that Yeshua did was try to use logic and reasoning when He spoke with people. You don't give a son a snake when he asks his father for a fish, or a stone for a piece of bread (Mat 7:9-10). Common sense reasoning. Yeshua also said that you should assess the strength of an enemy before you engage them in battle (Luke 14:31). You don't want to start a fight that you will loose. Elohim was very careful and wise in His battle plan to defeat Satan and the rebellion. He did something that made Satan think he had the upper hand, but in the end, it was the wise thing to do. Elohim created man to be AGAINST Him, and this proved a very important and strategic part of the plan:

Rom 8:20
(20) For the creation was subjected to futility (moral depravity), not willingly, but because of Him who subjected it, in hope

Rom 11:32
(32) For Elohim has shut up all in disobedience so that He may show mercy to all.

You see LW, in defeating Satan and the rebellion, Elohim created FLESHLY man who was LIKE Satan so that He could teach them how Satan's rebellion and ways produce misery and death. It's sort of like our immune system, we need to experience the disease in a less deadly form so that we can build up defenses against it to defeat the actual disease. This is what our Wise and Good Maker is doing. The end result will be the complete defeat of Satan and his evil ways and a building up and restoration of a UNIFIED Body of Eternal Believers that are Living Spirits which can overcome Satan and his ways. Hope this helps. Blessings in the Name, ImAHebrew

[Lord Willmore]

Should I decide the status quo is best I would shun an unfamiliar traine of thought. That is human nature as well, xenophobes do nothing for society. Unfortunatley It seems that religion is guilty of this, or should I say those who use it as a tool to do so. In ancient times, Bahgdad was once the the beacon of light for knowledge. Aribac numerals, algebra and the names of many stars were discovered or created or named by inviting all the greatest thinkers of the day. Xenophobes were not invited, they would bring nothing. The name escapes me, but around 1100ad the teachings of a man were perpetuated that no knowledge of math or the universe does anything for their god. Now we have what we see today in that part of the world. So not following a train of thought is foolish, but that does not mean it has to accepted as truth.

So back to god's Sin Tzu...your idea makes me wish I paid attention in Biology class. It's often best to for teaching to do so on a small scale. No use in building a plane without testing the aerodynamics with a model. The only issue I see is you are explaining what is happening, but not why. As though this would be the best way to teach us satan's ways. The reason for bulding model planes is so the real thing doesnt crash. But you're saying god just tossed us into this plane and said fly, without officially handing us the in instructions. I am sure you'll say, yes, he left us the bible. I will retort with that not everyone was given the instructions, from human beginngings 50,000 years ago to the iliterate of the dark ages. Not only that, but we dont know we're in a plane, the cokpit is locked and the instructions are inside. In other words, I would think there would be a better way, such as a flight simulator where the consequences arent so dire.