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    Legalism is Rampant in the Christian Church

    Few churches escape the temptation to use legalism to control the members. This problem has existed from the beginning of the church when the Apostle Paul struggled to keep believers from falling back under the Old Testament laws. Judaizers, legalists of the day, tried to make the Gentile believers keep the Jewish commandments of circumcision, the law (Ten Commandments), dietary commandments, and the observance of special days; but the Apostle Paul taught that we are no longer under the law but under grace. Churches, pastors, and "Torah Keepers" who preach justification by keeping the law are blaspheming God. Their justification by legalism and works is a statement to God that Jesus Christ died in vain.

    Galatians 2:21 "I do not set aside the grace of God; for if righteousness [comes] through the law, then Christ died in vain."

    Galatians 3:1 O foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you that you should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed among you as crucified? 2 This only I want to learn from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith? 3 Are you so foolish? Having begun in the Spirit, are you now being made perfect by the flesh?

    Galatians 5:2 Indeed I, Paul, say to you that if you become circumcised, Christ will profit you nothing. 3 And I testify again to every man who becomes circumcised that he is a debtor to keep the whole law.

    Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you, for you are not under law but under grace.

    Scripture clearly tells us to live our lives by the leading of the indwelling Holy Spirit, not by keeping our eyes on the law (Ten Commandments) or on a list of rules. We are to walk in the Spirit, not in the flesh.

    Galatians 5:16 I say then: Walk in the Spirit, and you shall not fulfill the lust of the flesh. 17 For the flesh lusts against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh; and these are contrary to one another, so that you do not do the things that you wish.

    Legalism failed to make the Pharisees righteous.
    Judaism 101: List of the 613 Mitzvotl, Commandments in the Torah.


    a good site that exposes false bible ''truths'' of spiritual inbreeding - passing down from generation to generation.
    http://www.biblelife.org/bondage.htm


    spying - this word of advice is especially for you and IAH.
    Churches, pastors, and "Torah Keepers" who preach justification by keeping the law are blaspheming God. Their justification by legalism and works is a statement to God that Jesus Christ died in vain

    again so you will not miss it.

    Churches, pastors, and "Torah Keepers" who preach justification by keeping the law are blaspheming God. Their justification by legalism and works is a statement to God that Jesus Christ died in vain

    look at yourself
    look at yourself
    BLASPHEMING GOD
    O man are u in big trouble.

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    there is this little town called Nimbin.....

    it was such a really pretty town and in the 1970's a heap of young ''flower power'' people and the '' i love Jesus'' crowds left home and went to live there in this pretty place. it was a 'love in' and all the young people lived outside the bondaries of righteousness. So this pretty place turned into a nest of vipers.

    Today 40yrs later all the young flower powers are old goats who are drugged up to their eye balls and actually cannot string 2 words together they are so ''out there'' as are their offspring - who one COULD label ''weird'' - but the word ''weird'' is an understatement as their brain has been fried and simply gone away - to never never land.
    people without any form of sensible thought processes.

    is it possible for a person to loose their mind so badly they become a non-human?
    is it possible for a person to be so be-witched - that person actually goes someplace else and the witchy spirit takes over humans?


    today this town is so gross and spaced out, to even drive thru is scary.

    to be so BE-witched is to be BEYOND reason - i do believe THE TOWN OF NIMBIN and its scary people is a place that can be found all over this world.
    Places where people have simply lost their minds.
    People without the human ability to reason correctly.



    ummm.......................
    the word deliverance springs to mind....................

    when Apostle Paul was plagued by the Judaizers whom he called Be-witched - the only comment would have to be THEIR MINDS HAD BEEN OVERTAKEN by a witch-spirit - WHICH IS the spirit of rebellion.

    so is a Judiazer ''a rebel against the Gospel''?
    yes.
    a Judaizer is an enemy of the cross.

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    • #3
      No, you're and enemy of the cross.

      nah uh, you are

      So synapses that don't fire like yours cause people to go to hell. They're not up to your standards, the high and lofty standards of perfection. Talk about blasphemy, judging evryone as you drive through their town, only part of the brain you have left working is fear. Fear of hell, fear of being like them. Empathy doesn't even come to mind does it? I wish I could go to heaven like you, and sit and scoff at all those who's brains didn't work like mine. Spying might be nuts, but I've yet to see him condem you to hell. Though I'm sure with a little time and religion you'll both find a way to exlude everyone from your personal heavan. amazing that God hates everything you do. Surely aren't changing the facts now are we? Two people trying two pull eachother into their own sinking ship. Interesting forum though, The Jew and the Christian battle it out for ultimate supremacy of the universe. I'm sorry, the muslims were right!
      The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge.

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      • #4
        what is wrong with PERFECTION eddy?

        ummm.

        WHAT IS WRONG WITH BEAUTIFULL
        WHAT IS WRONG WITH GREATNESS AND LOVELINESS?
        WHAT IS WRONG WITH LOVE AND KINDNESS?
        WHAT IS WRONG WITH WEALTH AND HAPPINESS?
        SO WHAT IS WRONG WITH perfection.


        so WHY IS perfection a dirty word.

        what is so wonderfull about imperfection.
        what is so wonderfull about sickness
        what is so wonderfull about poverty and want
        what is so wonderfull about death and murder and false people

        ummm.

        what is so wonderfull about vanity - a system ruled over by darkness.
        why make an effort to agree with imperfection, chaos, sickness and want as you have just done Eddy?.

        eddy you are a part of imperfection and view PERFECTION AS something that is not very desireable.
        thats is how u want it.

        ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
        i am not a part of imperfection - i found i did not like it i begged to be removed from it.


        - i did not like death, pity and want,
        - i did not like chaos and dirty lives and lusts and poverty,
        - i did not like war and murder and drugs and false religions,
        - i did not like scams that robbed people,
        - i did not like wretchedness and hospitals and funerals.
        no these things did not suit me at all

        so I decided to be changed.

        to come out from the Matrix and to STOP BEING A BRAINLESS CLONE OF DARKNESS - and be made into the perfection of Christ
        that is a choice i made.

        i feel sorry for u eddy.
        and your hatred of PERFECTION - FOR MY SAVIOUR IS PERFECT AND HE ASKS ''BE PERFECT AS I AM PERFECT''

        that is why I stand against brainless decissions that satan introduces to the ignorant.
        I love wisdom
        I hate lies and deceptions
        I love my friends and fight for them when they cannot help themselves
        I love helping others and making them happy
        I love having people happy around me
        I love good health and right choices
        I love eternal life.
        I love living in abundance of Christ
        so I BEG FOR WISDOM to get me thru each day - and to help others and make others as happy as I am in Christ.

        do u find something wrong with this eddy?

        and I judge ugliness and unhappiness people bring upon themselves by wrong choices.
        i dont wish to live this way
        so...................................
        I judge this and ask My Saviour = ''dont let me make wrong choices outside of your Kingdom realm'

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        • #5
          Look! He is not perfect, not like me! I could never be brainwashed, that's every other church, not mine. Nah uh, you're brain washed. Pleeeease. Im not ignant, you are! Hahaha. Whats so wonderful about poverty? Please, there you go again, thinking you're better. Those synapses firing in just such a way to get you to heavan miss perfect? You have money so that's proof God loves you? What's it like knowing you're better than everyone?
          Do you have rational coversations? What's the pizza guy say when you answer the door like a banshee? I'd never believe in exercisms but in your case I'll make an exception. What were the middle ages like? Were you being condemned that's why you're so busy condemning and being perfect...so you never sin...hahaha, low and behold the perfect christian! What's so wonderful about death? Christians die everyday, sorry to break it to you. But you're going to fluffy land with all your relatives, and dogs, because it just wouldn't be heavan with out snickers. Point and condemn lucy! Point and condemn! Reminds me of Ted Hagart, now there was christian who was sure of himself.
          The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Edmund Dantes View Post
            Look! He is not perfect, not like me! I could never be brainwashed, that's every other church, not mine. Nah uh, you're brain washed. Pleeeease. Im not ignant, you are! Hahaha. Whats so wonderful about poverty? Please, there you go again, thinking you're better. Those synapses firing in just such a way to get you to heavan miss perfect? You have money so that's proof God loves you? What's it like knowing you're better than everyone?
            Do you have rational coversations? What's the pizza guy say when you answer the door like a banshee? I'd never believe in exercisms but in your case I'll make an exception. What were the middle ages like? Were you being condemned that's why you're so busy condemning and being perfect...so you never sin...hahaha, low and behold the perfect christian! What's so wonderful about death? Christians die everyday, sorry to break it to you. But you're going to fluffy land with all your relatives, and dogs, because it just wouldn't be heavan with out snickers. Point and condemn lucy! Point and condemn! Reminds me of Ted Hagart, now there was christian who was sure of himself.


            from you post....
            Im not ignant

            perhaps if u pursued PERFECTION u could spell ignorant.... eddy

            why is PERFECTION a dirty word.
            EXIT lucy....................

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            • #7
              Really Lucy? Do you understand the irony of misspelling the word 'ignorant?'

              Let us admire your statement for a moment.

              Now let us analyse it. You quoted me, saying that I am not perfect because I spelled the word 'ignorant' as 'ignant.' i did this of course for the purpose of irony. Though you say if I was pursuing perfection I would have spelled the word correctly.

              Therefore 'proper spelling' = 'perfection'

              Now let's take Lucy who believes she is perfect. Is there evidence of her being imperfect on these forums? What formula should we use...hers that states 'perfection' = 'proper spelling'?

              We have a large...very large sample size of posts on these forums to choose from. I'm sure in one of your posts you ...gasp...misspelled something!

              Perfection is something only you believe you have Lucy. I'm not perfect, unless you ask my mother, I'm her child. Let me defer to Albert: "A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy?" but you don't ask that because you're superior to Einstien.
              The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it's the illusion of knowledge.

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