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  • ''STAND FAST'' in the LIBERTY..................

    "Stand fast therefore
    in the liberty by which Christ has made us free, and do not be
    entangled again with a yoke of bondage."
    so
    Spying 'what exactly is this YOKE OF BONDAGE' - CAN U EXPLAIN IT CORRECTLY.

    NO....
    - ye cannot unfortunately.

    the yoke of bondage is shown as this.

    ''my health cannot heal your sickness UNLESS I DWELL IN'' LIFE IN THE SPIRIT'' - that always remains OUTSIDE OF ''THE LAW OF CORRUPTION''.

    THE VEIL THAT HELD CORRUPTION FIRMLY IN PLACE [THE LAW OF THE OT] was RENT BY THE CROSS.


    THEREFORE when ye try to re-introduce corruption and bondage to others I STAND FAST.

    why?

    dire warnings are given out
    about the consequences of seeking to be circumcised and justified by OT law keeping.

    Observing circumcision as a necessity requires keeping the
    whole law
    Attempting to be justified by the Law will separate you from
    Christ and you will thereby fall from grace

  • #2
    to be 'fallen from grace''?

    when Grace and faith are now the MAINSTAYS of the NT - what would happen if you actually fell from these 2 MAINSTAYS OF THE WHOLE NT SYSTEM?

    when some people dabble in altering the NT into 'their version' - what happens to their whole Being?

    would this happen?
    there would be NO life and No blessing and the words ''get away from Me i never knew you'' spoken over your whole being.
    if so.....
    what would ye do?
    where do ye go?
    i do not believe ye can do this and ''get off'' scott free and have a bit of a giggle and an oppppssssss.
    Paul warns and said '' deserters and wait for it ''eternally condemned' to those men who tried to alter the Goodnews for themselves and for their pleasure.

    what is eternally condemned and that a Believer is to have no COMPROMISE for these types of preachers.[ the devil's workers so it seems].

    But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.


    Gal 1:9 As we said before, so say I now again, If any [man] preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed.
    g331 ἀνάθεμα anathema
    a thing devoted to God without hope of being redeemed, and if an animal, to be slain; therefore a person or thing doomed to destruction

    a) a curse

    b) a man accursed, devoted to the direst of woes


    without hope of redemption
    doomed to destruction
    a curse
    devoted to the direst woes.

    = the final judgment of a Judaizer. [not be me, nor my detecting work but by the Apostle Paul]

    a believer is to STAND FIRM against such a one.

    here is the Believer in Christ standards...
    2Cor 3:6
    Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
    3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
    3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
    3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
    3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
    3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
    3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
    3:13 And not as Moses,which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
    3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
    3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
    3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
    3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.

    because i dont know what exactly ''eternally condemned'' means literally i thought i would do some dot joining to search out the truth of this matter for myself.

    Have you ever heard of an anathema?
    It refers to a person who is considered eternally condemned, or cursed.
    In other words, one is doomed to eternal condemnation in hell if he is anathematized.



    The Greek word anathema is used 5 times in the Bible and Paul was the only writer to use it.
    Those are the only anathemas which are binding for us today.
    They are found in
    Romans 9:3;
    1 Cor. 12:3;
    1 Cor.16:22;
    Gal. 1:8 and Gal. 1:9.

    dictionary.....

    Anathema, as used in the NT, comes from the Greek ana’thema, meaning

    “a person or thing accursed or consigned to damnation or destruction.”


    i dont wish to be this accursed person........................................ so i have a choice............................

    the point now is this?

    do i believe a person trying to convert me to their Judaizer theory - namely the mixing of both #1 -of the law to the jews and #2 -the NT new wine for the new creation under the lordship of Life in the Spirit?

    i have CHOOSEN - LIFE IN THE SPIRIT - THE NEW WINE - FOR THE NEW CREATURE - TO BE PROCESSED BY THE LIFE OF THE SPIRIT INTO LIVING STONES FOR HIS EKKLESIA.

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    • #3
      hold fast/stand firm

      to the LIBERTY..............................

      satan will try to put a person back under his slavery and he uses tricks on the ignorant to undermine the Gospel that abolishes death - his angels of light appear and woo the crowds back to satan's slave like belief so they die.
      The keys to the house of Knowledge are removed by his angels of light - this is what has happened to Spying when armstrong convinced him to observe sabbath etcs as a jewish works he must do to be saved - a lie of a judaizer. alas.

      you see the Ekklesia belong to the Order of Melchidezek - the High Priest is Yeshua - this order is righteousness , peace and justice - and it is found in the drama of the prodigal son - the sinning son, the father sadness, the drama of the son and the return of the son and the father's reaction are the truths of the Gospel message.
      The call to salvation and to enter into the Order of Melchidezek - shown by the shoes, the ring the robe and the fatted calf banquet.
      in the order of Melchidezek is found Righteousness and justice. the 2 go together.
      for there is NO righteousness without Justice and No justice without righteousness - therefore to be just is to be righteous and the just shall live by faith and faith is the basic element of kingdom foundations and what is not of faith is sin and sin causes death and death is the persons active untamed carnal mind that satan uses to accomplish his needs and further his death like kingdom of murder and chaos.

      Paul had establish this kingdom knowledge within the people but now these Judaizers came in and altered the Gospel saying be circumsised and follow the law of Moses + added to faith and grace.

      the spiritual man needs faith and grace - the natural man needs the law of Moses to the jew.

      so what had happened is satan had used these men to dilute the gospel and return it back to his religion that killed people from their sins.

      the works they did were no based upon grace and faith - kingdom values.
      therefore a believer has to stand firm in His righteousness so justice will be served.

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      • #4
        so - what is not of faith is sin and sin kills all men despite their religion -

        sin makes dead people despite their own personal belief and thinking for most personal thinking is satanically injected over all stratas of society and satan is a master tactician at social engineeing people - to show the worse of human degradations.
        -----------------------------------------

        However- the Ekklesia is a group of living stones who are trained up in faith and justice - being the ''just shall live by faith'' and the faith is of the just.

        what is not of faith is sin.
        few can fathom such a truth.

        the same faith in Christ is to be found in Ekklesia - the assembly of the 1st born from the dead.
        nothing of any works or self effort is related to their army like disciplines.

        they are in a divine army of overcomers who have absolutely nothing to do with any creed, pastors or religious affilliations of man - that is a NO go zone that belongs to satan and his apostates.

        they all have their own methods of salvation and think they have 'the truth' just as the judaizers and pharisee had in ancient times - nothing has changed only their faces.

        Messiah rules His army - the sons and the first born, from the out resurrection.



        so back to His faith-walk.
        to have NO sin and be under NO condemnation is not of works of any jews but of faith -or- an anointing mind that will not be moved over any situation that debases the Word and Promises to the Ekklesia from the NT word.

        the just shall live by faith is - typed like Caleb - who had a different spirit so He was no moved by his giants nor the giants of fear eminating out from the hebrews who only wanted to go back to their slavery of the Egyptians and the brickpits.
        the brickpits can be likened to the law of moses - the works of slavish man and the monotony of such works = this is so opposite to the faith of the son of God.

        that is 1 thing i noticed about the sabbath keeping armstrongites - the monotony and the DEMEANING way that stiffled all divine revelation of life abundant and divine living john 10 v 10- it killed it as it was from the realm of death and death is a boring realm. The people were made to live by roat - the same old same old system that killed off the jews in a terrible retribution unknown to man for its horror and venegence.

        the day of vengence.
        no other day was like it nor will be again,
        Luke 21:21
        Then let them which are in Judaea flee to the mountains; and let them which are in the midst of it depart out; and let not them that are in the countries enter thereinto.
        22 For these be the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled;
        23 But woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck, in those days! for there shall be great distress in the land, and wrath upon this people.
        when Father allowed the door to the law to the Jews only to be closed in 70ad - for ''the day of vengence'' to come - this day needs a CRIME TO BE COMMITTED....
        what crime did the jews commit?

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        • #5
          Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
          when Grace and faith are now the MAINSTAYS of the NT - what would happen if you actually fell from these 2 MAINSTAYS OF THE WHOLE NT SYSTEM?

          2Cor 3:6
          Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.
          3:7 But if the ministration of death, written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away:
          3:8 How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious?
          3:9 For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.
          3:10 For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth.
          3:11 For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.
          3:12 Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech:
          3:13 And not as Moses,which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished:
          3:14 But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.
          3:15 But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart.
          3:16 Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away.
          3:17 Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty.
          when some people dabble in altering the NT into 'their version' - what happens to their whole Being?

          would this happen?
          there would be NO life and No blessing and the words ''get away from Me i never knew you'' spoken over your whole being.
          if so.....
          what would ye do?
          where do ye go?
          i do not believe ye can do this and ''get off'' scott free and have a bit of a giggle and an oppppssssss.
          Paul warns and said '' deserters and wait for it ''eternally condemned' to those men who tried to alter the Goodnews for themselves and for their pleasure.

          what is eternally condemned and that a Believer is to have no COMPROMISE for these types of preachers.[ the devil's workers so it seems].


          g331 ἀνάθεμα anathema
          a thing devoted to God without hope of being redeemed, and if an animal, to be slain; therefore a person or thing doomed to destruction

          a) a curse

          b) a man accursed, devoted to the direst of woes


          without hope of redemption
          doomed to destruction
          a curse
          devoted to the direst woes.

          = the final judgment of a Judaizer. [not be me, nor my detecting work but by the Apostle Paul]

          a believer is to STAND FIRM against such a one.

          here is the Believer in Christ standards...


          because i dont know what exactly ''eternally condemned'' means literally i thought i would do some dot joining to search out the truth of this matter for myself.

          Have you ever heard of an anathema?
          It refers to a person who is considered eternally condemned, or cursed.
          In other words, one is doomed to eternal condemnation in hell if he is anathematized.



          The Greek word anathema is used 5 times in the Bible and Paul was the only writer to use it.
          Those are the only anathemas which are binding for us today.
          They are found in
          Romans 9:3;
          1 Cor. 12:3;
          1 Cor.16:22;
          Gal. 1:8 and Gal. 1:9.

          dictionary.....

          Anathema, as used in the NT, comes from the Greek ana’thema, meaning

          “a person or thing accursed or consigned to damnation or destruction.”


          i dont wish to be this accursed person........................................ so i have a choice............................

          the point now is this?

          do i believe a person trying to convert me to their Judaizer theory - namely the mixing of both #1 -of the law to the jews and #2 -the NT new wine for the new creation under the lordship of Life in the Spirit?

          i have CHOOSEN - LIFE IN THE SPIRIT - THE NEW WINE - FOR THE NEW CREATURE - TO BE PROCESSED BY THE LIFE OF THE SPIRIT INTO LIVING STONES FOR HIS EKKLESIA.
          Hmm, I wonder what happened to this Lucy??

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          • #6
            What happened to this Lucy?

            ''STAND FAST'' in the LIBERTY
            Well, she did NOT stand fast did she.

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            • #7
              the liberty in vanity, yes it happens,

              When you enter the Sonship realm it is as if you enter the refining fire where all the dross of your natural soul is burnt and consumed in the fire of His perfecting. It is where all perceived fears and weaknesses are cut off. It is where all unknown weaknesses are brought out in order that you might recognise them and seek His overcoming deliverance and strength.

              It is where His Glory burns out of you all the lying false pronouncements of man over you and He speaks into your very soul that you are a Son of the Most High God, and a priest of the highest order of Melchizedek, and every hurt every lie every falsehood of man is lifted from your soul that has kept you bowed down under the spirit of anguish and defeat, and He lifts you to partake of the renewing power of His Spirit to your mind and soul and now you have an awareness that causes you to cry “Abba Father”.

              All of a sudden your earthly shackles of false security are riven. The fetters of death are loosed from your mind and the chains of the Adamic nature are loosed from your mind. The prison doors of man’s dominion are broken open and the Light of His Glory lifts you into the Glory of His presence.

              You don’t want to leave it. You can’t leave it. It is a consuming Light.

              You will willingly surrender all things for His perfection.
              You will awaken to new values, a new order. You will be shown the darkness of the world and the bondage of religion in order that you might partake the joy of their deliverance.

              You see only Jesus. You see Him as God. He is your teacher; He is your life, your mercy.
              He is your perfection”.



              ALL GLORY TO JESUS
              LARRY WILSON


              the disciples are never stagnant and dead in sin, but each area of deception especially religious deception are removed.
              the grave clothes of ''accepted religion' are removed and new divine light pours in.
              vanity contains the bible and this work has been corrupted many times, however there still remains some diamonds within and this is why we are not to read it as a library book, but SEEK THE RIGHT ANSWERS to THE REAL GOODNEWS.
              ofcourse the majority will not agree, as vanity is too powerful for them to break out from so only Yeshua can RELEASE THE CAPTIVES TO A SYSTEM THAT HAS FAILED TO REPRODUCE Christ within its people.
              yes the religious Matrix, will remain and all will die from its curses....

              but so few see the danger as only Yeshua gives the true EYE SALVE to see the perils.
              you have to ask WHY?
              THE BIBLE THE PREACHING THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS UTTERLY FAILED TO PRODUCE Christ in anyone for 2000yrs as HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS..
              answer is
              WRONG TEACHING.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                When you enter the Sonship realm it is as if you enter the refining fire where all the dross of your natural soul is burnt and consumed in the fire of His perfecting. It is where all perceived fears and weaknesses are cut off. It is where all unknown weaknesses are brought out in order that you might recognise them and seek His overcoming deliverance and strength.

                It is where His Glory burns out of you all the lying false pronouncements of man over you and He speaks into your very soul that you are a Son of the Most High God, and a priest of the highest order of Melchizedek, and every hurt every lie every falsehood of man is lifted from your soul that has kept you bowed down under the spirit of anguish and defeat, and He lifts you to partake of the renewing power of His Spirit to your mind and soul and now you have an awareness that causes you to cry “Abba Father”.

                All of a sudden your earthly shackles of false security are riven. The fetters of death are loosed from your mind and the chains of the Adamic nature are loosed from your mind. The prison doors of man’s dominion are broken open and the Light of His Glory lifts you into the Glory of His presence.

                You don’t want to leave it. You can’t leave it. It is a consuming Light.

                You will willingly surrender all things for His perfection.
                You will awaken to new values, a new order. You will be shown the darkness of the world and the bondage of religion in order that you might partake the joy of their deliverance.

                You see only Jesus. You see Him as God. He is your teacher; He is your life, your mercy.
                He is your perfection”.



                ALL GLORY TO JESUS
                LARRY WILSON


                the disciples are never stagnant and dead in sin, but each area of deception especially religious deception are removed.
                the grave clothes of ''accepted religion' are removed and new divine light pours in.
                vanity contains the bible and this work has been corrupted many times, however there still remains some diamonds within and this is why we are not to read it as a library book, but SEEK THE RIGHT ANSWERS to THE REAL GOODNEWS.
                ofcourse the majority will not agree, as vanity is too powerful for them to break out from so only Yeshua can RELEASE THE CAPTIVES TO A SYSTEM THAT HAS FAILED TO REPRODUCE Christ within its people.
                yes the religious Matrix, will remain and all will die from its curses....

                but so few see the danger as only Yeshua gives the true EYE SALVE to see the perils.
                you have to ask WHY?
                THE BIBLE THE PREACHING THE WHOLE SYSTEM HAS UTTERLY FAILED TO PRODUCE Christ in anyone for 2000yrs as HIS IMAGE AND LIKENESS..
                answer is
                WRONG TEACHING.
                Lucy,

                Merely because YOU have returned back to your own vomit again, and you have failed to live by the scriptures, does not mean it's the scriptures fault.

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                • #9
                  Backslidden.

                  Lucy,

                  Other people who read all of your posts from the past can see how far you have fallen and backslidden over the past 2 years, and all people have to do is read your back posts like is in this thread to see this is so.

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