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  • the next move?

    written by bill Britton - for edification.
    The Next Move is Temporary

    What is the next move?
    It is to bring the Fulness of His Glory to a company of Sons on Mt. Zion.
    This is not to be done in glorified bodies.
    For notice that the Ark was placed under a tent. This speaks of a mortal body.
    The Apostles Peter and Paul both speak of laying aside this "tabernacle" or body.
    But in 2 Corinthians 4:11, Paul tells us that the life of Jesus must be manifested in our mortal bodies. He also speaks of the treasure we have in "earthen vessels."
    the life of Messiah must manifest in our mortal body.
    we are to become a ''treasure'' in our body.

    each time a believer overcomers the powers of the Matrix, they increase in knowledge and increase the divine energy so they ARISE AND 'COME UP HITHER' by their spiritual Man inside. they dont go anywhere by stay here like Messiah did.


    we find that before permanent divine order comes to the Church, and before His Glory fills His Temple, there must be a company of Sons, predestinated "brethren," who receive His Glory and His fulness and manifest it in mortal bodies "on Mt. Zion" or in the realm of divine authority.
    For the law went forth from Zion, it was the place of David's throne. And "when God brings again Zion, His watchmen shall see eye to eye." (Isaiah 52:8).
    Through this ministry of the Sons, all creation is loosed from the bondage of death and corruption, and God's Temple is finally built. Then the mortal is swallowed up in immortality, and the Glory of the Ark of God is moved to it's permanent resting place in the Temple made of living stones. This is the House of God that God shall abide in forever. All the nations are going to be blessed because of this House.

    Not only those who are living at this time will enter into this glory, but those who embraced these promises by faith, tho they be dead, shall be resurrected and return with Jesus to become One with those still on the earth. (Ephesians 1:9-11)
    Be ready! He will soon appear! He will come to His Temple. All signs point to the fact that we are ready now to begin the feast of the seventh month. The Feast of Tabernacles finally to be fulfilled in this last day Church! Praise the Lord Jesus! Glory to His Name! You will eat of Hidden Manna. You will never die! The Church will come into a perfect and divine order, a permanent order! The glory of God will come to His Church and abide forever! The Sons of God are about to make their move. A clean and perfect Priesthood is being made ready. Kings and Priests are getting ready for this great day! It is the Day when His glory will be revealed. It is the Day of the Lord!


    THE disguise comes before THE deception
    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

  • #2
    Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
    written by bill Britton
    Hi Lucy, this was written by a "dead" man? Blessings in the Name, ImAHebrew

    P.S. It's so funny that even after this man dies, his family is trying to make profit from his teachings that apparently allow one to die.
    Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

    Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
    Abstain from meats offered to idols
    (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
    So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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    • #3
      yes for once i do agree here IAH

      Originally posted by ImAHebrew View Post
      Hi Lucy, this was written by a "dead" man? Blessings in the Name, ImAHebrew

      P.S. It's so funny that even after this man dies, his family is trying to make profit from his teachings that apparently allow one to die.

      it was a puzzle to me and Allen how a person could know and write about eternal life and still die in sin.
      this man had much knowledge,[ despite his families profiteering] but now i know that LIFE KNOWLEDGE IS NOT ENOUGH because Now i understand it is LIFE BEING going thru the transformational daily process that is necessary

      to sum up

      it is not KNOWING BUT BEING LIFE.

      THE *BEING* MAKES THE DIFFERENCE ONCE YOU KNOW

      we have to PUT ''I AM'' infront of LIFE. like Messiah did.

      yes u do have to know but you also have to BE.

      ITS THE ''BEING'' THAT IS THE HARD YARDS.


      ITS LIKE A CAKE - you can taste a great cake and love it - go home and make it - but something is missing and it does not taste the same as the original cake,'

      the missing part in this case is BEING...........................
      i feel not too many know HOW TO *BE* HIS ETERNAL LIFE here on earth - just as HE WAS here.

      the bible is like my illustration of the cake - so i hunted for the answer till i found it .........
      when Jesus said this ''
      '''to you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it has not been given''. .

      as His workmanship a believer is worked on [BY THE h.o.l.y. SPIRIT] SO THEY MATURE INTO HIS LIFE IMAGE as He matured into Life too.
      It is a disciples daily discipline to BE from what YOU KNOW.
      i do believe Ps 23 sums up HE IS OUR SHEPHERD - then when this is our established truth - He takes care of His sheep.

      how many sheep are in a flock?
      ummm.

      the key to all these things is DISCIPLE-SHIP.
      RELATIONSHIP
      HEART-SHIP.
      LOVER-SHIP.
      A SHIP of LOVERS IN A DIVINE RELATIONSHIP come into an understanding of how to receive HIS ETERNAL LIFE on earth to become ZION the lovers city of brethren Messiah is not ashamed to call His Friends.
      yes, we can have all the doctrine and all the knowledge in heaven and earth = but ONE THING IS LACKING - THAT OF LOVER-SHIP, that is why i stand by my Pal Allen E - he is my brethren and I want him in my divine ship - not because he is perfect, handsome, and wealthy but because Father allowed him to understand HIS OWN LIFE.
      so i go thru being ''abused and called a lawless lucy, - some humongeous sinner and a general clod and idiot,- who now is stabbing my saviour to death by my sin- who doesnt know a hoot about anything biblical................................by a lo ammi.
      [but who cares about ''names'' -i forgive all men cuz i know they dont know what they do - they remain as mere man and have forgotten they are children of God.]

      all for my pal, who has veered off the path and into a ditch.
      LIFE NOW is a spiritual life very few find , where our doubting carnal mind is reprogrammed into the mind of christ.

      putting on the same mind that Emmanuel had= is giving up our own life and all destroying opinions and starting to ''see'' our lives, our world, our situations and problems thru OUR REAL FATHER'S EYES.
      WE ''SEE'' who the real BEAST IS - THE CARNAL MIND OF MAN.
      ------------------------PS
      the law to the jew lacked something vital
      the church system - also lacks something vital.


      they DONT FALL IN LOVE with the real Father.
      FATHER WANTS LOVERS NOT DOCTRINES OF THE LAW OR THE CHURCH = but vital alive well groomed lovers,
      He does not want people to QUOTE SCRIPTURE VERSES - BUT LIVE in NT SCRIPTURE VERSES - meaning HIS WORD THAT SHOWS HIS GLORY..
      Last edited by LucySmith; 12-07-2011, 04:06 AM. Reason: PS
      THE disguise comes before THE deception
      What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
      THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
      - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
      - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
      This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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      • #4
        the NT teaches a believer is a blessed WITH EVERY SPIRITUAL BLESSING....

        how wonderfull is that? also the NT speaks of ''ruling and reigning with Christ'' + of releasing all of creation from futility by the glorious liberty of the Sons of God.
        The scriptures go on and on, presenting promise after promise, reality according to God's viewpoint.
        So when i read these verses i have to turn my eye inwards to see my SPIRITUAL REALITY AT WORK in my life.

        am i blessed
        am i seeing the promises coming to pass
        IF I TRUST IN MY SAVIOUR - DOES HE STAND UPON HIS WORD TO ME AND SHEPHERD ME into his caring and sharing.

        now i do confess i can say YES by His grace to me Yes it is so by grace alone amen.
        so when others try to re-covert me into their belief - why should I be re-converted when i am walking in the promises just as the word says - I experience the spiritual blessings in reality.

        do you think i need to change to what others believe?
        ummmmmm

        --------------------

        a Believer has come into a time of a great responsibility and honor - meaning - the of breaking the tape in this race, or- breaking the mortality barrier and proceeding into the High calling.

        this is not some ''pretend hyped up'' myth NOR A RELIGIOUS lying standard- because inside a believer's life- they are in the process of learning how to ''WAX STRONG IN THE SPIRIT AND IN THE POWER OF HIS MIGHT.''
        the strength comes from ''a quickened INNER spiritual man'' who has been made alive in Christ - a BEING OF LIFE.

        WE can know of life
        BUT A BELIEVER IS A BEING who BECOMES ''THE POWER OF THE RESURRECTION AND ARISES INTO LIFE'' as Messiah is life.

        how is this done?
        by overcoming satan.
        our former ways of thinking and
        learning how to live in the truth of His word correctly.

        when u practice the NT word you become THE WORD under THE DIVINE WORD.
        MESSIAH'S WIFE shall be Mrs Word not Madam Harlot.

        when Eve was deceived by the serpent, her mind trapped THE TRUTH INSIDE IT and so she died.
        She put TRUTH into a carnal flesh box called her carnal mind and this truth laid trapped there and never opened so she died.

        all people do this, but Father does draw some out and separates them unto Himself and tells them how to unleash the truth trapped in their minds so they can THINK FREEDOM - THINK LIBERTY - THINK UNLIMITED and no longer be filled with deceived thoughts.

        Messiah did not allow His ''eve'' type of mind to dominate over HIM - so He was without sin for He did not submit to the ''eve'' in His life but to HIS POWERFULL ARISEN CHRIST MAN WITHIN - THE CHILD OF GOD.

        eve traped the truth with a lie and she never knew FREEDOM from the lie
        Messiah knew how to release the truth as He became the truth of His word for all believers so they would not believe the lie and be murdered by the deceptive murderer. [satan]

        By her [eve's] deception eve believed a lie - an illustion that appeared real - a trick based upon a lie so her 5 senses became her ''God'' rather than her inner spiritual man.
        Her spiritual man [the truth] could not arise because lies held him down.
        And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what the will of God is, that which is good and acceptable and perfect. – Romans 12:2
        do not be conformed by what you see, what you hear = dont allow your 5 senses to be your Lord.
        renew your mind into The Word. dont imprison the truth.
        today be delivered from the domain of Satan and his lying reality.

        The cry which comes from the Spirit in this day is.................................
        "Come Out of Her My People".
        We have usually associated that scripture with our perception of "religious Babylon, and the deliverance Father is undertaking to separate His sons, however, there is another plane of deliverance that should be considered as a deeper fulfillment which is coming forth at this time; a deliverance from a dimension that we have known since our birth.
        before we were all born we were spiritual beings.
        now we are lowered into vanity unwillingly our spiritual man encased in a human body - in other words - we are not our ''former selves'' so to speak and we had to learn how to work thru a human body and be visible.'
        satan the devil and the murderer took an advantage of eve that day by moving her out from a spiritual lowered into vanity being into a female human being with 5 senses. he showed her the outer and she forgot her inner [child of God] part.
        the outer man in vanity took over.

        it is the be remembered we all are a spiritual being [1st] having a earthly human walk [2nd] AND we were lowered UNWILLINGLY into vanity.
        why were we UNWILLINGLY lowered - no one knows. vanity is a wilderness experience just like Moses and the nation wandered around and round never going NO place in this dessert.

        UNBELIEF kept them there and they died.

        it is not a ''good standard nor a good recommendation over us '' to die.

        no one actually wants to die.

        people want to healthy happy and peacefull life..... this is already programmed into them as their desire.
        no one wants to be ugly unhappy sick nor dying.

        PEOPLE WANT GOOD THINGS TO HAPPEN - that is the screaming out little spiritual sleeping man longing for his releasing in all men.

        dont listen to your eve.
        you have to learn to reverse the curse to be freed.
        THE disguise comes before THE deception
        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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        • #5
          itis very hard to get rid of unbelief and believe.

          the soulish mind is so powerfull + sight and this world so strong it takes a new mind to overcome the old one and this new mind in place sets us free.
          because we are so used to sin and corruption in our lives - we need this new mind to cease from the curse of adam.
          We are not told how long Adam lived in the garden of eden with eve - and had everything wonderfull - till they were deceived and fell into ruin - but they regretted their choice of ruin very much.
          Therefore whatever they expereinced prior to their sin and deception was far greater than their ruin.
          We all live in their legacy.
          But we do have a great oportunity to be restored back - that is why the bible has so many ''re'' words = because ''re'' infront of a word means TO RETURN BACK TOO.

          re-deemed
          re-pent
          re-newed
          re-concilliate
          re-generation
          etc = to turn back too.

          Death is swallowed up in victory.
          O death, where is thy sting?
          O grave, where is thy victory?
          The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law; but thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
          if ye look very carefully with your new SOUND MIND [ not the mind that is thinking like a ruined person with an unsound mind] that verse says ''BUT THANKS BE TO GOD, WHICH GIVES US THE VICTORY'' - OVER WHAT?= death and the ruined life of man.

          if you think about this deeply and in truth.
          One man's wrong choice affected you and blighted and ruined our personal life AND GAVE U A DYING life ruled over by a being called ''the murderer-from-the-beginning''.
          again
          if you rethink it was Adam's CHOICE AND HIS RUIN that WAS THRUST UPON YOU and you had NO choice but to accept ruin from a human you never met and you were limited with an UNSOUND MIND thru no fault of your own personal choices.

          wait let us relook here please so we ''see'' our true position.

          if you rethink it was Adam's CHOICE AND HIS RUIN that WAS THRUST UPON YOU and you had NO choice but to accept ruin from a human you never met and you were limited with an UNSOUND MIND thru no fault of your own personal choices.


          you were jailed for a crime you did not personally commit -or- your choices were already CHOOSEN FOR YOU - YOU DID NOT PERSONALLY CHOOSE others CHOICES
          you had NO choice at all.

          now you have been given A GET OUT OF JAIL CARD FREE by the above verse - but most people DONT BELIEVE IT.


          NO MATTER what 'doctrine' you believe in - is it the divine doctrine that NOW GIVES YOU A CHOICE.
          - this PERSONAL CHOICE CAN BE YOURS to exercise in YOUR FAVOUR - you now have to exercise YOUR CHOICE over the matter and learn how to escape for yourself.
          none shall help you but christ THE REDEEMER WHO LIVETH TO MAKE HIS INTERCESSION OVER YOU TO the UTTERMOST.

          remember a prisoner is used to jail, many re-offend to go back to a life they were used too.

          Also remember the Israelites wanted to TURN BACK TO THEIR FORMER SLAVERY when they saw their giants...
          so for you TO CHOOSE YOUR CHOICE AND HAVE YOUR OWN CHOOSING GRANTED - U also will see the giants too - the giants called DOUBT AND UNBELIEF - turn people back.

          the 5 sense stronghold is far to powerfull a giant to overcome - but- this now becomes your choice - ''courage Neo courage.''

          when reading this verse most all people say 'it doesn't mean that, that is future''
          Death is swallowed up in victory.
          O death, where is thy sting?
          O grave, where is thy victory? The sting of death is sin, and the strength of sin is the law; but thanks be to God which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ."
          i want you to think this also.............

          the church doctrines and man made up doctrines of men added together with their traditions plus mixtures of 1/2 truth reproduces a hybrid religion.
          You have to walk away and ''CLEAR YOUR MIND NEO'' to escape the Matrix.

          remember you will be on your own for most folk live in a lie and in the choices of others.
          DONT LIVE ON THE BOTTOM OF THE BIRD CAGE.

          you have a chance to escape and to allow CHRIST'S CHOICES TO BECOME YOUR CHOICES - again please notice - you will have NO personal choice - how weird is this... you can choose 2 ways to rule over you
          THE adam choice
          THE Christ choice

          to return back USE THE CHOICES OF THE S.A.V.I.O.U.R.
          THE disguise comes before THE deception
          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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          • #6
            it is so good to get out from the mirey clay of unbelief and into divine revelation..

            the Overcomers in Christ are to have a change of clothes from wool to linen.
            This becomes a divine reality when their lives on earth can switch realms and enter the spiritual - the pass over to cross over meaning - into and out from and out from and into realm switching just as Messiah did.
            This action is termed as the harpazo, or "the catching away''.
            at no time do these overcoming believers leave earth to go someplace else. NO.
            the ''someplace else is here'' but the realm of the kingdom is where evil has been sucked out'' so to speak.
            for the overcomer this adventure is now coming into focus for them as they mature into the image of Christ.
            THE disguise comes before THE deception
            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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            • #7
              zion......

              this brings me to zion



              “zion is a spiritual realm where the gospel and government of jesus christ outwork for the restoration and sanctification of all things unto himself. Zion is the kingdom of heaven on earth. It is where the spiritual operation of the word is in the inhabitants of zion. It is under the truth of the key of david. David’s tabernacle paved the spiritual way for godly authority and governmental control. The praise and worship of zion is that which is acceptable unto the lord for it is a sacrifice of praise which can only come from the broken spirit and contrite heart”.



              When jesus taught them to pray, and included “thy kingdom come, thy will be done on earth”

              he was releasing the key of david for those who will hear. His kingdom on this earth will be the realm of david’s zion again in operation on this earth under the ministry of the new priesthood which david saw and spoke of in psalm110.






              So i reveal to you this glorious realm of zion. When your heart truly seeks the face of jesus, his spirit will light in you the truth of zion, and the light will never go out, and you will dwell there in safety.



              Ask jesus to lead you there.



              If you are not born-again, you can accept jesus as your saviour right now. Confess that you believe that he is the son of god, that he died for you and that he was raised from the dead. Ask him to come into your heart, and you will be born-again. The lord bless you. Then seek his face and he will reveal truth to you.



              What to expect



              when the lord moved in his people israel in the earth, things happened. In exodus34:10 we read that he made covenant with his inheritance people. When this happened, it extended into the earth. The lord has a covenant people in his sons and he has promised “the heathen for their inheritance”. In v10 we read that the nations would see the work of the lord, for it is an awesome thing that he would do with his people.



              Again in his kingdom day, jesus will work an awesome work through his priesthood, and the nations will see the work of the lord.



              Naturally david saw all this:

              Psalm64:9 “all men shall fear and declare the work of the lord for they shall wisely consider of his doing”

              psalm46:8-11 “behold the works of the lord. Wars will cease to the ends of the earth. He will be exalted among the heathen and he will be exalted in the earth”.

              Psalm114 this psalm reveals glorious truth. When he raises up a people, they become his sanctuary and his rule. All of creation responds and behold his power. The earth will tremble at the presence of the lord.





              In the kingdom day of jesus on this earth, the earth will tremble at his presence as they see his mighty works in his priests. The sons of god will appear as the lord calls them from the far reaches of the earth. They shall perform creative wonders through the power of jesus, never seen before in the earth. He will go beyond his church-day miracles and shake the powers of creation to draw the heathen nations to himself. This earth will see his awesome acts shake the very foundations of the earth. Peace which has evaded the earth for 6000 years will become a reality. Evil will cease and the will of god will be done in the earth.





              I could go on and on in this message, but i want to end by exalting jesus christ. He has been so faithful to me. I can look back and se him working in my life through circumstances which of course i didn’t always see. When i cried to him in 1979 he put me on the highway to zion, and began a revelation of truth to me. I have sought him for many years concerning these truths on which i write and i praise him.



              I can recommend him to you. Most people if they are truthful will admit to some void or need in their life. Jesus will fill that void and meet that need. He doesn’t look at you and judge nor condemn. He looks on the heart and hears the cry. He forgives and washes you whiter than snow through his blood which flowed at the cross.



              There is a beautiful old hymn:



              “at the cross, at the cross

              where i first saw the light

              and the burden of my heart rolled away,

              it was there by faith i received my sight

              and now i am happy all the day”



              the kingdom day is imminent. Jesus will be worshipped and crowned with glory and honour.




              all glory to jesus



              larry wilson



              february 2006

              the best way to ''prove'' Jesus is to do as He said.
              He said ''you will know who i come from.''
              THE disguise comes before THE deception
              What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
              THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
              - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
              - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
              This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

              Comment


              • #8
                the believer is trained up to live IN ''LIFE IN THE SPIRIT''

                and this new life form is not living with the same mind and 5 senses and traditions of the past.
                It is a NEW WAY of viewing everything - not thru the lenses of the Matrix but by getting 'eye-salve' and to be able to ''see'' in the spiritual world which is our normal true kingdom world.

                we all live with abnormal reactions - suggested by evil and we are subjected to evil domination without a way of escaping. However if we become as a wise virgin, we find we escape into the spirit,true, normal real - by understanding how Jesus went thru the veil and lived there in His kingdom yet remained here on prison Planet called the Matrix.

                it is rather hard to go spiritual when the matrix abnormal is so grounded and appreciated in our lives and there is NO man gone before us today, who can tell about viewing from the spiritual side of things But Messiah.
                Father decided to form a NEW creation not like all past creations - He is forming them as His dear Son unlimited, unshackled and filled with divine wisdom.

                my prayer and gift to readers is STOP THINKING EVIL AND PANIC AND TROUBLES - REVERSE HOW YOU THINK - THINK '' I KNOW THE END RESULTS AND I DONT CARE IF IT APPEARS I AM LOSING IT 1/2 TIME''.
                THE disguise comes before THE deception
                What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                Comment


                • #9
                  Moses' Law is SPIRITUAL!

                  Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                  and this new life form is not living with the same mind and 5 senses and traditions of the past.
                  It is a NEW WAY of viewing everything - not thru the lenses of the Matrix but by getting 'eye-salve' and to be able to ''see'' in the spiritual world which is our normal true kingdom world.

                  we all live with abnormal reactions - suggested by evil and we are subjected to evil domination without a way of escaping. However if we become as a wise virgin, we find we escape into the spirit,true, normal real - by understanding how Jesus went thru the veil and lived there in His kingdom yet remained here on prison Planet called the Matrix.

                  it is rather hard to go spiritual when the matrix abnormal is so grounded and appreciated in our lives and there is NO man gone before us today, who can tell about viewing from the spiritual side of things But Messiah.
                  Father decided to form a NEW creation not like all past creations - He is forming them as His dear Son unlimited, unshackled and filled with divine wisdom.

                  my prayer and gift to readers is STOP THINKING EVIL AND PANIC AND TROUBLES - REVERSE HOW YOU THINK - THINK '' I KNOW THE END RESULTS AND I DONT CARE IF IT APPEARS I AM LOSING IT 1/2 TIME''.
                  Hi Lucy, if you want to "go spiritual," you need to start looking toward Moses and the Spiritual side of his Law. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew
                  Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                  Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                  Abstain from meats offered to idols
                  (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                  So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

                  Comment


                  • #10
                    the spiritual side.....

                    why not show and tell IAH......

                    let us see the success rate?
                    let us see the new wine?
                    and the hidden manna
                    THE disguise comes before THE deception
                    What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                    THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                    - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                    - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                    This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

                    Comment


                    • #11
                      Show and Tell

                      Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                      why not show and tell IAH......

                      let us see the success rate?
                      let us see the new wine?
                      and the hidden manna
                      Hi Lucy, it's pretty hard to try to "show and tell" something to someone who is like these folks:

                      Jon 4:11 And should not I spare Nineveh, that great city, wherein are more than sixscore thousand persons that cannot discern between their right hand and their left hand; and also much cattle?

                      You see Lucy, being able to discern between the right hand and the left is something that you are totally incapable of doing, so it really doesn't do much good to "show and tell" you about the Spiritual Hand of Moses' Law. If the Left Hand makes you so sick that you vomit and diaarhea all over yourself, how do you expect to learn about the Right Hand? Ah, but there is Grace, and through it, the Right Hand is revealed. And those who can discern will see Messiah Yeshua at the Right Hand of Elohim. Just exactly what does that mean, Yeshua being at the Right Hand of Elohim? And who is at the Left Hand, was Messiah Yeshua ever on the Left Hand of Elohim? Can you discern these things? I'm sure that with the new wine and hidden manna you are eating and drinking from, surely these things are not hidden from you. But if they are, maybe this Scripture will help:

                      2Co 6:7 By the word of truth, by the power of Elohim, by the armour of righteousness in the right hand and in the left,

                      Or maybe this one:

                      Jdg 7:20 And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The sword of Yahweh, and of Gideon.

                      Or even possibly this one:

                      1Ch 12:2 They were armed with bows, and could use both the right hand and the left in hurling stones and shooting arrows out of a bow, even of Saul's brethren of Benjamin.

                      So Lucy, why don't you learn how to use BOTH hands, the Right and the Left (together), instead of trying to make yourself an invalid, by amputating the Left Hand. Lucy, if your Left Hand is missing, how will you ever have success in holding up your Lamp to this world? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew
                      Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                      Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                      Abstain from meats offered to idols
                      (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                      So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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                      • #12
                        Iah...

                        you know IAH religious people love their pious chatter - they become puffed up and when u ask them for a practical demo they become evasive.
                        you see the thing is IAH Father does not come in talk BUT IN POWER.

                        PAUL SAID ''' I DONT COME IN TALK BUT IN POWER''.
                        NOW POWER IS A PRACTICAL DEMO OF the kingdom OF GOD AT WORK IN YOUR LIFE - THEREFORE I ASKED FOR A SHOW AND TELL.


                        I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR OR SEE HOW U MINISTER OUT LIKE ABRAHAM?
                        THE KINGDOM OF GOD IS FOR PEOPLE WHO PRACTICE KINGDOM VALUES.


                        you cannot do it can you for if you did - you would post of exploits however small and febble.
                        why? because the holy spirit shall only boast of Yeshua and no other for its His glory not our own.
                        We are only a vessel.

                        your religion and belief is a waste of space and your remain talk and not walk.

                        i dont blame you IAH, and i do understand because to have such healing faith is impossible unless Messiah INCREASES OUR FAITH and He does this for His sons.

                        what u believe IAH is an idol of serving 2 masters but the master you hate is Yeshua.
                        i know u will not believe me but it is true.
                        you hate the truth and the truth is a person.
                        what has happened IAH is you have made up a doctrine from man's instructions and have become right in your own eyes.
                        when others tell u the truth you immediately close up and run back into your darkness.
                        you have a form of godliness but not the real deal.
                        look around you IAH and see the curse your belief has wrought within your relationships.

                        all those years of believing a lie that cause great losses in your family and huge rifts and upset.
                        that is because THE LORD HAS NOT BEEN YOUR SHEPHERD OR THE TRUTH HAS NOT BEEN YOUR SHEPHERD
                        why not read Ps 23 for the benefits of His shepherding over us and how His people are KEPT.

                        healing faith - the work of the TEACHER to remove our fears and illusions of vanity - that thick veil of abnormality that surrounds all people except the sons of His workmanship.
                        see IAH a believer is to be delivered first before they can deliver others.
                        We get this example of cleansing from the world in Moses and his 40 yes cleanup to become a deliverer.


                        as for your ? to me
                        i do believe IAH you discern this things by the power the Lord shall give you to flow out to all men in need.
                        i love the divine practical IAH and i despise pious chatter without fruit. YOU SEE CHANGES HAPPEN and a restoration of the blind and dead into knowledge of the truth and life.

                        just for 1 min - allow me to paint u a portrate...
                        if you sat with Father on His right/left hand - you would argue with Him and cause strife and when He pointed out to you His word - you would argue again and again.
                        there would be disharmony in the rulership of the divine kingdom = Father cannot have men who serve 2 masters on His throne IAH.
                        why?
                        throne sitting is not for the fainthearted talkers but those who have DIED TO ALL former beliefs and have been RE PROGRAMMED INTO THINKING THE SAME AS YESHUA ON ALL THINGS - SO SATAN HAS NO HOLD UPON THEM EVER AGAIN.

                        THEY ARE CALLED THE DELIVERERS WHO COME OUT FROM ZION.
                        SO IN THIS WALK TO ZiON, BELIEVERS learn how to demonstrate His power and might.[not themselves
                        who work but as they die daily on their crosses - the holy spirit has been given the ability to flow out thru them into others in need.]
                        all their hinderances are being removed so the Holy Spirit has a cleared Right of way thru them.
                        serving 2 masters stops this flowing.

                        another example - white and armstrong had your values and belief - show me in practical ways how the pervert herbert delivered men into the divine kingdom. why would a pervert be allowed to enter into the divine kingdom?
                        show me this mans fruitfilled life as he kept the sabbath the feats and other jewish laws.
                        show me how his edification made others into the image of Yeshua
                        u will fail - for you cannot deliver 1 person - so now i ask - why do i wish to believe you? ummmm.

                        I am being freed by believing the Holy Spirit's direction and being delivered so beautifully from all former ways i hated and despised in myself the faults satan introduced me too are withering and dying and now in some small ways i meet others needs, prayers are answered and the blessed hope of glory is arising in my heart.

                        so why am i to change back to strife destruction and all manner of discontent and lacking.
                        i am practical and have become alive and entered into His divine kingdom.

                        you know IAH Yeshua Belief and how He operated, how He ministered was by the virtue flowing out from Himself.

                        VIRTUE.
                        VIRTUE
                        VIRTUE

                        what an amazing word.
                        a power word - you feel the rev up inside you when this 'virtue' flows - like a charge of super energy.
                        like a lift off from the ground, in a plane.
                        yeshua was in a continual super changed MODE - SWITCHED ON to meet the needs of fallen desperate men.

                        sabbath keeping and other assorted law keeping has failed the VIRTUE MINISTRY.
                        ummm
                        perhaps a change on mind towards virtue would help you IAH.

                        BTW
                        Jdg 7:20 And the three companies blew the trumpets, and brake the pitchers, and held the lamps in their left hands, and the trumpets in their right hands to blow withal: and they cried, The sword of Yahweh, and of Gideon.


                        So Lucy, why don't you learn how to use BOTH hands, the Right and the Left (together), instead of trying to make yourself an invalid, by amputating the Left Hand. Lucy, if your Left Hand is missing, how will you ever have success in holding up your Lamp to this world? Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew


                        NOW TO BE PRACTICAL.... how did your '' lamp'' hold up and help to heal your very distressed and dysfunctional family and its relationships? i told u before tomatoes in glass houses should not fling stones at the tomatoe pickers.

                        have u begun the reconcilliation processes yet?

                        BTW do you realise how much harm you do IAH by this 2 master serving mixtures you profess is the truth.
                        do you realise the terrible path you have choosen that ends up in death?
                        i say this because Elijah had people calling him to ''come back down'' and return to them and these were killed.
                        you cannot pull down His church and not be aware of reapings that have happened in the past.

                        dont touch the apples [pupils] of His eye.
                        Father does not like sticks shoved in His eyeballs.
                        I give due warning and show great concern for your folly.
                        THE disguise comes before THE deception
                        What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                        THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                        - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                        - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                        This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                        • #13
                          cont... TO BE KEPT IN HIS DIVINE VIRTUE....

                          i love this word .
                          word description.
                          -----------------------------
                          power, mighty work, strength, miracle, might, virtue, mighty
                          mighty work flowed out from Yeshua
                          strength and power flowed out from Yeshua.

                          a believer also is trained up to release this work called virtue - a outflow of His compassion and love.
                          His workmanship never lacks any good thing, and nothing is lacking for their life is now filled with His abundance. [john 10 v 10]

                          there is a daily practical realm of His kingdom where His virtue does outflow from His believer.
                          a small outflow happened for me yesterday - i thought how marvellous it would be to take my family for a ride in a new limo to our hotel on the beach in hawaii.
                          Ofcourse It was very expensive for this journey so i did not worry over it but what hapened- because there was 6 of us we had to get a limo anyways for no cab would hold all the gear we had and us 6 as well - and all it cost was $40 for the trip - Father knew my silly wee desire yet HE ARRANGED IT very cheaply and we arrived at our hotle in style. Thank you Father for your abundance.
                          I did not ask for this treat [ i just thought how sweet it would be as a surprise for my family] but my Father provided it for me. amen
                          ''adundant life in Christ'' covers our whole life not just parts of it - it is like an earthly father providing for his family and pulling out some surprises for his family too.

                          ''giving'' is a huge part of His kingdom of Life. not like darn lemon drops but rather an oversupply of great gifts of His affection.
                          did u know Father arranged for 10 saddle bags filled with jewels and gifts for the Bride for Isaac?

                          Father is never stingy, mean or restrictive with His giving - as a 2nd witness remember He gave David 5 smooth stones when only 1 did the job?

                          if u lack any good thing - there are dark issues in your life that needs help.
                          THE disguise comes before THE deception
                          What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                          THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                          - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                          - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                          This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                          • #14
                            cont... TO BE KEPT IN HIS DIVINE VIRTUE....

                            i love this word .
                            word description.
                            -----------------------------
                            power, mighty work, strength, miracle, might, virtue, mighty
                            mighty work flowed out from Yeshua
                            strength and power flowed out from Yeshua.

                            a believer also is trained up to release this work called virtue - a outflow of His compassion and love.
                            His workmanship never lacks any good thing, and nothing is lacking for their life is now filled with His abundance. [john 10 v 10]

                            there is a daily practical realm of His kingdom where His virtue does outflow from His believer.

                            a small outflow happened for me yesterday - i thought how marvellous it would be to take my family for a ride in a new limo to our hotel on the beach in hawaii.
                            Ofcourse It was very expensive for this journey so i did not worry over it but what happened- because there was 6 of us we had to get a limo anyways for no cab would hold all the gear we had and us 6 as well - and all it cost was $40 for the trip - Father knew my silly wee desire yet HE ARRANGED IT very cheaply and we arrived at our hotel in style. Thank you Father for your abundance.
                            I did not ask for this treat [ i just thought how sweet it would be as a surprise for my family] but my Father provided it for me. amen
                            ''adundant life in Christ'' covers our whole life not just parts of it - it is like an earthly father providing for his family and pulling out some surprises for his family too.

                            ''giving'' is a huge part of His kingdom of Life. not like darn lemon drops but rather an oversupply of great gifts of His affection.
                            did u know Father arranged for 10 saddle bags filled with jewels and gifts for the Bride for Isaac?

                            Father is never stingy, mean or restrictive with His giving - as a 2nd witness remember He gave David 5 smooth stones when only 1 did the job?

                            if u lack any good thing - there are dark issues in your life that needs help.

                            however back to virtue. IT IS A MIGHTY ENERGY - A POWER-FLUSH that moves vanity out from its place and alters the atmosphere into the divine normal.

                            the highest energy [for virtue] is LOVE.
                            next are joy and life of peace.
                            next are patience health and wealth.
                            these are all mentioned in Ps 23.

                            words that oppose Ps 23 - the Good Shepherd's poem- are sickness death, discord, want, depression and pain, shame distrust.

                            in the MIDDLE of these two master conditions lays ANGER.
                            IT IS A PIVOT.
                            anger can take one into the lowest low.... or the highest heaven.
                            i will let u go figure how this works....................................................................

                            Yeshua contained the fullness of Love.
                            His believer becomes His love's fullness too - a help-meet lover.
                            His love flows and makes His believer to be LOVE AS HE IS LOVE.
                            Father is Love the creation is based of a love theme and only this theme works.

                            When i see contention in religious families I know they are not saved nor have the agape needed for true salvation...yes.. the talk is sometimes there but the walk is far cry from perfect love.
                            you see unless His perfect Love is perfected within you = you cannot flow out in His divine virtue that heals and helps others in need. why? for you are as needy as the lost.

                            people need deliverence by His mighty virtue of Love and so unless His love rules your life you cannot help others.

                            Yeshua came as a wonderous gift to mankind - are you a Gift too- an amazing divine reality of fellowship and help?
                            or just a crabby old lemon drop of religious self righteousness. there are zillions of them.
                            THE disguise comes before THE deception
                            What would happen if we hired Agatha Christie character to investigate the CRIMES of the O.T Yahweh?
                            THE TRUTH comes to His people from Jesus - it is revealed knowledge
                            - Just as His Father revealed THE TRUTH TO HIM daily in prayer
                            - FAITH COMES from hearing not reading.[the bible is corrupted]
                            This revealed daily Knowledge 2 the Ekklesia changes us into HIS WORKMANSHIP here - there is NO other way~~

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                            • #15
                              True Wealth

                              Originally posted by LucySmith View Post
                              if u lack any good thing - there are dark issues in your life that needs help.
                              Hi Lucy, you appear to have a gospel that is similar to those "weath and prosperity" preachers from the USA which preach a message of worldly goods for those who believe. What you fail to recognize is the TRUE WEALTH that is found in the Law of Moses...that is the Spiritual Side of the Law...Elohim's Right Hand. You are like a poor person who can't recognize a fake jewel from the real thing and you parade yourself around in your cosmetic jewels thinking you are something special. If the Power and Truth of the Gospel was in flaunting your worldly wealth as a means to "appear" righteous, then this link will show you how poor, miserable, blind, and naked you are in comparision to these 25 (http://www.businessinsider.com/most-...street-2011-10). Lucy, even the poorest of the poor (in worldly terms) of those who KNOW the Power and Truth of the Gospel, far exceed your wealth, and the wealth of those 25 "rich" people. You see, you can't fathom this Scripture:

                              Heb 10:31-39 It is a terrifying thing to fall into the hands of the living Elohim. (32) But remember the former days, when, after being enlightened, you endured a great conflict of sufferings, (33) partly by being made a public spectacle through reproaches and tribulations, and partly by becoming sharers with those who were so treated. (34) For you showed sympathy to the prisoners and accepted joyfully the seizure of your property, knowing that you have for yourselves a better possession and a lasting one. (35) Therefore, do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward. (36) For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of Elohim, you may receive what was promised. (37) FOR YET IN A VERY LITTLE WHILE, HE WHO IS COMING WILL COME, AND WILL NOT DELAY. (38) BUT MY RIGHTEOUS ONE SHALL LIVE BY FAITH; AND IF HE SHRINKS BACK, MY SOUL HAS NO PLEASURE IN HIM. (39) But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.

                              The reason why you can't fathom this Scripture is because you feel so deserving to be blessed in your delusional beliefs. Here is a link that speaks about "The Prosperity Gospel" which you seem to profess:

                              http://www.worshipinspiritandtruth.net/page9.htm

                              Why do you follow these charlatans from the USA Lucy? True Wealth comes from the following:

                              Jos 1:7-8 "Only be strong and very courageous; be careful to do according to all the law which Moses My servant commanded you; do not turn from it to the right or to the left, so that you may have success wherever you go. (8) "This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it; for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have success.

                              Lucy, don't you want to have "success and prosperity?" LEARN how you can be careful to do according to all that is written in the Law of Moses, so that you then can have TRUE WEALTH. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew
                              Col 2:16 & 17 Teaches us that no "man" is to determine what we eat or drink, or how the Sabbath, Holy Days, and New Moon should be observed, instead, The Body of Messiah IS to determine those things, just like what happened in Acts 15.

                              Now, The Body of Messiah determined that since Moses is READ every Sabbath in the Synagogues (Acts 15:21), the Gentiles would be able to HEAR (Luke 16:31, John 5:46-47), and then do those things to farewell (Acts 15:29). Those FOUR necessary commands that The Body of Messiah determined for the Gentiles, were FROM the Law of Moses.
                              Abstain from meats offered to idols
                              (Exo 34:15), abstain from blood (Lev 17:14), abstain from things strangled (Deu 12:23), and abstain from fornication (Lev 19:29).
                              So do not let anyone deceive you into believing falsely about the Law of Moses.

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