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Hi Lucy, let's review what has transpired between us. We both see there is a zeal for what each other believes, but do we both have a zeal based upon knowledge and true understanding? Obviously no, because we have a difference of opinion as to what the Spirit is saying about the Law of Moses. You believe the Spirit is telling you that the Law is a curse and a yoke, and it should be the last thing in the world you would want to follow, because if you did follow it, you would be spitting in the face of Messiah. On the other hand, I believe the Spirit is telling us that we CAN confirm and do ALL that is written in the Book of the Law, through faith. So, why do we have this difference of opinion?
1Co 11:19 For there must also be factions among you, so that those who are approved may become evident among you.
These differences between us Lucy is so that the true understanding and knowledge of Elohim's Word will become apparent to us. We also have Paul telling us that those who are bold, can destroy and cast down "imaginations," and the proud and high thinking of those who exalt their teachings and doctrines against the TRUE knowledge of Elohim:
2Co 10:3-5 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (4) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through Elohim to the pulling down of strong holds
(5) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of Elohim, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Messiah;
Lucy, you have a "stonghold" in your belief that you do not have to follow what Yahweh commanded Moses, and do it. You have presented a number of reasons and arguments as to why you don't have to follow what Yahweh commanded Moses, and in each and every point, the Spirit has demolished your imaginations. Let's review:
1. You argued that Romans 14 allows to you esteem one day above another, so as to say that the Fourth commandment was no longer valid, but what does the Spirit say? The Spirit says that Paul was speaking about "doubtful disputations," and it was about esteeming one day above another to FAST on it (The Sabbath Command is NOT a "doubtful disputation," it is One of the Ten). It was also speaking about whether or not one could eat meat, or just vegetables...another "doubtful disputation" because the Law of Moses does not speak expressly concerning fast days (except ONE) and vegetarianism (except for that you were required to eat the Passover). Those "weak" in faith would only eat vegetables.
2. You argued that Col 2:16-17 did away with the Sabbath, but the Spirit showed you that was not the case. For it is the Body of Messiah who can judge what you eat and drink, and with HOW you observe the Holy Days, New Moon, and the Sabbath, and NOT any individual man. Yeshua gave His Church the authority to bind and loosen, and to remit and retain sin, and this comes from His Spirit. So whatever the Body of Messiah determines concerning these things, it is BINDING, and should be followed.
3. You argued that the Gentiles would not be required to keep the Sabbath based upon a number of passages about the 1st day of the week, and with what is written in Acts 15. But the Spirit showed you that even in Acts 13:42-44 when the Gentiles were coming to the synagogue to hear the Gospel preached by Paul, they had to wait UNTIL the next Sabbath to hear more. The Spirit was showing you that IF the Believers were assembling on the 1st day of the week, WHY didn't Paul invite the Gentiles to meet with them INSTEAD of making them WAIT until the next Sabbath? And this goes hand in hand with what the Spirit has showed you in Acts 15 concerning how the Gentiles would be keeping the Sabbath to hear more of what Moses had to say:
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
4. You argued (with others you quoted from) that the Jews were no longer bound to keep the Law of Moses, the circumcising of children, or the customs. But the Spirit showed you that when Paul returned to Jerusalem 8 years after the Council of Acts 15, James and the elders had Paul enter into the rites of purification to PROVE that Paul was not teaching Jews to forsake Moses, the circumcising of children, or the customs. The Spirit even brought to your attention that James stated, "Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law."
5. You argued that the Law is a curse and a burden/yoke that no one can keep. But the Spirit taught you that the CURSE and BURDEN is your inability to confirm and DO all that is written in the Book of the Law. The Spirit spoke to you about the Grace which is given EVERY sinner. This Grace IS the Free Gift of Righteousness. The Law of Moses IS Elohim's Righteousness, and EVERY sinner who confesses their sin and BELIEVES through FAITH that Yeshua is THEIR sin offering, begins their walk in CONFIRMING and DOING ALL that is written in the Book of the Law, your RIGHTEOUSNESS (Deu 6:25). Your sin is TURNED INTO a DOING of the Law, and you know that the Spirit has told you that "not the hearers of the law are RIGHTEOUS before Elohim, but the DOERS of the Law are RIGHTEOUS."
6. You argued that the Abomination of Desolation is....man made RELIGION of death, but the Spirit has convincingly shown you that the Abomination of Desolation is when The Righteous One was lifted up on the Cross in this PRESENT AGE (the Holy Place), and made to stand where He ought not (in death on the Cross), and a great DESOLATION occurred in that ALL died when He died (2 Cor 5:14). Then you had no argument for why Messiah wanted you to pray your flight was not on the Sabbath, but the Spirit has spoken to you in that you should FLEE from sin (to the Mountains of Righteousness), and DO this BEFORE Yeshua RETURNS on the Day He is Lord of, the Sabbath, so that you will be blessed.
7. You argued that the Law of Moses was destroyed with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 ad, but the Spirit has also spoken to you with the words concerning the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by Babylon hundreds of years eariler, and the Law of Moses was not destroyed with that destruction. The Spirit has taught that the Law of Moses is growing older and will soon vanish away, sort of like what Yeshua spoke when He said Heaven and Earth would pass BEFORE the least stroke of a pen would pass from the Law of Moses.
Do you see Lucy? Point, by point, by point the Spirit is speaking to you and you continue to turn a deaf ear to It. Sort of reminds me of this Scripture in which the Spirit is speaking expressly about those like you:
Pro 28:9 He that turneth away his/her ear from hearing the law, even his/her prayer shall be abomination.
So Lucy, why don't you become like Paul and ALLOW your FAITH to ESTABLISH the Law of Moses?
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Elohim forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Come on Lucy, don't close your ear to the hearing of the Law, but rather, let your FAITH ESTABLISH the Law so that we can extend to each other the Right Hand of fellowship. ImAHebrew
1Co 11:19 For there must also be factions among you, so that those who are approved may become evident among you.
These differences between us Lucy is so that the true understanding and knowledge of Elohim's Word will become apparent to us. We also have Paul telling us that those who are bold, can destroy and cast down "imaginations," and the proud and high thinking of those who exalt their teachings and doctrines against the TRUE knowledge of Elohim:
2Co 10:3-5 For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war after the flesh: (4) (For the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but mighty through Elohim to the pulling down of strong holds
(5) Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of Elohim, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Messiah;Lucy, you have a "stonghold" in your belief that you do not have to follow what Yahweh commanded Moses, and do it. You have presented a number of reasons and arguments as to why you don't have to follow what Yahweh commanded Moses, and in each and every point, the Spirit has demolished your imaginations. Let's review:
1. You argued that Romans 14 allows to you esteem one day above another, so as to say that the Fourth commandment was no longer valid, but what does the Spirit say? The Spirit says that Paul was speaking about "doubtful disputations," and it was about esteeming one day above another to FAST on it (The Sabbath Command is NOT a "doubtful disputation," it is One of the Ten). It was also speaking about whether or not one could eat meat, or just vegetables...another "doubtful disputation" because the Law of Moses does not speak expressly concerning fast days (except ONE) and vegetarianism (except for that you were required to eat the Passover). Those "weak" in faith would only eat vegetables.
2. You argued that Col 2:16-17 did away with the Sabbath, but the Spirit showed you that was not the case. For it is the Body of Messiah who can judge what you eat and drink, and with HOW you observe the Holy Days, New Moon, and the Sabbath, and NOT any individual man. Yeshua gave His Church the authority to bind and loosen, and to remit and retain sin, and this comes from His Spirit. So whatever the Body of Messiah determines concerning these things, it is BINDING, and should be followed.
3. You argued that the Gentiles would not be required to keep the Sabbath based upon a number of passages about the 1st day of the week, and with what is written in Acts 15. But the Spirit showed you that even in Acts 13:42-44 when the Gentiles were coming to the synagogue to hear the Gospel preached by Paul, they had to wait UNTIL the next Sabbath to hear more. The Spirit was showing you that IF the Believers were assembling on the 1st day of the week, WHY didn't Paul invite the Gentiles to meet with them INSTEAD of making them WAIT until the next Sabbath? And this goes hand in hand with what the Spirit has showed you in Acts 15 concerning how the Gentiles would be keeping the Sabbath to hear more of what Moses had to say:
Act 15:21 For Moses of old time hath in every city them that preach him, being read in the synagogues every sabbath day.
4. You argued (with others you quoted from) that the Jews were no longer bound to keep the Law of Moses, the circumcising of children, or the customs. But the Spirit showed you that when Paul returned to Jerusalem 8 years after the Council of Acts 15, James and the elders had Paul enter into the rites of purification to PROVE that Paul was not teaching Jews to forsake Moses, the circumcising of children, or the customs. The Spirit even brought to your attention that James stated, "Thou seest, brother, how many thousands of Jews there are which believe; and they are all zealous of the law."
5. You argued that the Law is a curse and a burden/yoke that no one can keep. But the Spirit taught you that the CURSE and BURDEN is your inability to confirm and DO all that is written in the Book of the Law. The Spirit spoke to you about the Grace which is given EVERY sinner. This Grace IS the Free Gift of Righteousness. The Law of Moses IS Elohim's Righteousness, and EVERY sinner who confesses their sin and BELIEVES through FAITH that Yeshua is THEIR sin offering, begins their walk in CONFIRMING and DOING ALL that is written in the Book of the Law, your RIGHTEOUSNESS (Deu 6:25). Your sin is TURNED INTO a DOING of the Law, and you know that the Spirit has told you that "not the hearers of the law are RIGHTEOUS before Elohim, but the DOERS of the Law are RIGHTEOUS."
6. You argued that the Abomination of Desolation is....man made RELIGION of death, but the Spirit has convincingly shown you that the Abomination of Desolation is when The Righteous One was lifted up on the Cross in this PRESENT AGE (the Holy Place), and made to stand where He ought not (in death on the Cross), and a great DESOLATION occurred in that ALL died when He died (2 Cor 5:14). Then you had no argument for why Messiah wanted you to pray your flight was not on the Sabbath, but the Spirit has spoken to you in that you should FLEE from sin (to the Mountains of Righteousness), and DO this BEFORE Yeshua RETURNS on the Day He is Lord of, the Sabbath, so that you will be blessed.
7. You argued that the Law of Moses was destroyed with the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple in 70 ad, but the Spirit has also spoken to you with the words concerning the destruction of Jerusalem and the temple by Babylon hundreds of years eariler, and the Law of Moses was not destroyed with that destruction. The Spirit has taught that the Law of Moses is growing older and will soon vanish away, sort of like what Yeshua spoke when He said Heaven and Earth would pass BEFORE the least stroke of a pen would pass from the Law of Moses.
Do you see Lucy? Point, by point, by point the Spirit is speaking to you and you continue to turn a deaf ear to It. Sort of reminds me of this Scripture in which the Spirit is speaking expressly about those like you:
Pro 28:9 He that turneth away his/her ear from hearing the law, even his/her prayer shall be abomination.
So Lucy, why don't you become like Paul and ALLOW your FAITH to ESTABLISH the Law of Moses?
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? Elohim forbid: yea, we establish the law.
Come on Lucy, don't close your ear to the hearing of the Law, but rather, let your FAITH ESTABLISH the Law so that we can extend to each other the Right Hand of fellowship. ImAHebrew
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