from IAH
''Lucy, it is very clear in the Scriptures, the shedding of innocent blood ONLY brings condemnation and judgment, not forgiveness or justification.
So you really need to explain why your views of shedding innocent blood differ so much from what the Word of Elohim says''. ImAHebrew
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hang on.... is my eyes seeing this right?
do i need glasses?
''Lucy, it is very clear in the Scriptures, the shedding of innocent blood ONLY brings condemnation and judgment, not forgiveness or justification.
hang on I'll check what the NT says.....
''Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him''!
(Rom 5:9)
Ephesians 1:7
''In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace''.
Colossians 1:14
''In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:''
''But God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! Romans 5:8–9:
is a holy sample from the NT.
yes I did see this right - just checking.
justified.
"to make righteous, to acquit from sin, to hold guiltless."
so, as i apply the blood of the Lamb - i overcome to be acquitted and guiltess
yes sireee. thats how it works
Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
(Rev 1:5-6 NIV)
2 Corinthians 5:21
Apostle Paul says,
"God made him [Jesus] who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (NIV).
thank you Father for the truth.
see I believe the NT............................................................
''Lucy, it is very clear in the Scriptures, the shedding of innocent blood ONLY brings condemnation and judgment, not forgiveness or justification.
So you really need to explain why your views of shedding innocent blood differ so much from what the Word of Elohim says''. ImAHebrew
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hang on.... is my eyes seeing this right?
do i need glasses?
''Lucy, it is very clear in the Scriptures, the shedding of innocent blood ONLY brings condemnation and judgment, not forgiveness or justification.
hang on I'll check what the NT says.....
''Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him''!
(Rom 5:9)
Ephesians 1:7
''In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace''.
Colossians 1:14
''In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:''
''But God demonstrates his own love for us in this:
While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God’s wrath through him! Romans 5:8–9:
is a holy sample from the NT.
yes I did see this right - just checking.
justified.
"to make righteous, to acquit from sin, to hold guiltless."
so, as i apply the blood of the Lamb - i overcome to be acquitted and guiltess
yes sireee. thats how it works
Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, the firstborn from the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth.
To him who loves us and has freed us from our sins by his blood, and has made us to be a kingdom and priests to serve his God and Father--to him be glory and power for ever and ever! Amen.
(Rev 1:5-6 NIV)
2 Corinthians 5:21
Apostle Paul says,
"God made him [Jesus] who had no sin to be sin for us, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God" (NIV).
thank you Father for the truth.
see I believe the NT............................................................
so now to the crux
why is IAH's belief needed, when scripture proves him totally incorrect - why am i to believe a teaching from armstrong-ism that i have to keep some laws but not all, and believe his twisted views on salvation.?
ummmm?
how does this stop my death?
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now Allen, it seems you too share IAH's view.
yes/no/maybe
shall we look again at his views.
''Lucy, it is very clear in the Scriptures, the shedding of innocent blood ONLY brings condemnation and judgment, not forgiveness or justification.
THIS IS ARMSTRONGISM..... the twisting of NT verses.
now Allen the point is both of you are wrong, sincerely wrong- because LIVING LIFE IN THE SPIRIT - MEANING, BEING TRAINED UP BY THE HOLY SPIRIT, TO OVERCOME THE CARNAL NATURE AS Emmanuel did - then there is NO condemnation.
you see Allen,
death reigns - till Christ appears, the moment the incorruptable seed appears - LIFE APPEARS.
WHEN LIFE APPEARS IN A PERSON - DEATH is ceasing to rule.
I live in this revelation - the blessing of life eternal.
not only by faith do i walk this walk BUT BECAUSE I HEARD IN NO MISTAKEN MANNER.
THEREFORE divine FAITH IS ESTABLISHED IN ME over this whole matter.
SO none of this life realm contains any parts of the law of Moses, for this law did not save.
But you want to bring me back under the law of moses by keeping some laws but not all 613 of them.
I know this is NOT right.
I also know, that merely quoting scriptures and being ''passive in faith as a blind acceptance'' like church pews do - is not the answer either.
Yes, they know of the resurrection - BUT FAIL TO LIVE IN it roday AND UNDERSTAND ITS POWER.
PAUL said '' I long to know the POWER of His resurrection''[phil 3]
this is for Believer's and their walk into the out resurrection from the dead.
meaning -the first fruit company - Father plans for His Believer the temple not made with hands- Zion the city of God.
THE POWER of the resurrection has nothing to do with Moses and law keeping and everything to do with having the ability to withstand the enemy 'death' or put another way = THE DIVINE ABILITY TO OVERCOME DEATH BY THE POWER OF LIFE OF CHRIST.
or
the divine ability to cease using the flesh mind that kills us.
THIS IS HOW A BELIEVER OVERCOMES death and few find its revelation.
pleassssssssssssssssssssssssssssssseeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
- DONT TELL ME about your belief and law keeping it is a hoax from a madman.
true life immortal has nothing to do with lawkeeping and the teachings of armstrong - to overcome death - a believer resists it
how?
''resist the devil'' and he shall flee - the ''murderer-from-the-beginning'' needs to be resisted, when resisted he flees hence his murdering intentions cease.
the truth is HOW TO MAKE THE DEVIL FLEE BY RESISTING?
here is what u need to concentrate upon Allen, -by keeping your 4 self induced laws of Moses AND thinking it is making you holy is NOT LEARNING TO RESIST THE DEVIL.
IT IS NULLIFYING GRACE
SO why would a man who had nullified Grace, [BLASPHEMED THE HOLY SPIRIT acts 15 ] and a sincere person in their own right - be able to teach about LIFE.?
you cheeky devil.
go read ''THERE IS THEREFORE NO COMDENATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE IN [john 15] CHRIST JESUS= FOR THE LAW OF THE SPIRIT IS LIFE IN CHRIST JESUS has set me free from the law of sin and death [law of moses]
allen
BE SET FREE.
DONT ALLOW a proven false teacher to destroy.
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