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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shabbat Shalom Everyone, besides Lucy and her delusional doctrine about the innocent and righteous needing to take their own life just so that a deity's justice could be served, so that all wicked sinners can be forgiven, we have Eliyahu, and his inability to "open" the meaning of the Scriptures. He thinks that any 3rd grader that can read English (KJV) will be able to understand what the Scriptures plainly say. As far as he is concerned there are no hidden or difficult things in the Scriptures that NEED explaining. This is why he will not be able to GRASP how the FREE Gift of Righteousness that Elohim GIVES to ALL sinners, THROUGH and BY their sin KILLING or SACRIFICING Yeshua (sin is the source that Elohim's USES to deliver Righteousness-the Spiritual DOING of the Law). This is beyond his comprehension so that he will be unable to EXPOUND or EXPLAIN this fundamental/foundational doctrine that is called Grace, all that he will be able to do is just quote a couple of Scriptures, and then misunderstand them. Hopefully, some day he will change to where he will start trying to EXPOUND and EXPLAIN what the Scriptures are truly saying, and then we can have a productive and good conversation. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    And then we have Ken, Spying's own little personal taught child of hell.

    Elohim forgives our past sins to show and give us His grace and mercy, you and Spying have a TWISTED view of Yah's grace, and neither of you don't mind BREAKING and CONTRADICTING other texts of scriptures so ye can keep ye own twisted traditions.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImAHebrew View Post
    Shabbat Shalom Everyone, besides Lucy and her delusional doctrine about the innocent and righteous needing to take their own life just so that a deity's justice could be served, so that all wicked sinners can be forgiven, we have Eliyahu, and his inability to "open" the meaning of the Scriptures. He thinks that any 3rd grader that can read English (KJV) will be able to understand what the Scriptures plainly say. As far as he is concerned there are no hidden or difficult things in the Scriptures that NEED explaining. This is why he will not be able to GRASP how the FREE Gift of Righteousness that Elohim GIVES to ALL sinners, THROUGH and BY their sin KILLING or SACRIFICING Yeshua (sin is the source that Elohim's USES to deliver Righteousness-the Spiritual DOING of the Law). This is beyond his comprehension so that he will be unable to EXPOUND or EXPLAIN this fundamental/foundational doctrine that is called Grace, all that he will be able to do is just quote a couple of Scriptures, and then misunderstand them. Hopefully, some day he will change to where he will start trying to EXPOUND and EXPLAIN what the Scriptures are truly saying, and then we can have a productive and good conversation. Blessings in The Name, ImAHebrew/Ken.
    And Ken,

    Shabbat Shalom Everyone, besides Lucy and her delusional doctrine about the innocent and righteous needing to take their own life just so that a deity's justice could be served, so that all wicked sinners can be forgiven, we have Eliyahu, and his inability to "open" the meaning of the Scriptures.
    I allow the prophets, Messiah, and His apostles to interpret their own meanings in their own context, and their own words used so their own proper understanding is revealed to us.

    I don't re-interpret their words into what I THINK, and then dish out to others my own re-interpreted meaning as you and Spying do, that's why Spying is always CONTRADICTING and opposing himself and the scriptures, I speak His word faithfully as He commanded to do.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Your promoting the devil's here and now kingdom.

    Lucy, ye are promoting living forever in the devil's here and now kingdom, and ye don't even believe Messiah's words below.

    Messiah plainly said:, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/sear...=s_primary_0_1

    This world's kingdom belongs to satan the devil, and who in their right mind would really want to live forever in this evil world of nothing but murder and violence, and it keeps getting worse and worse.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    that is because of people like you Elijah

    for centuries the true gospel has been lost and some weird fake nonsense believed from a whole lot of corrupted preachers like yourself.
    JESUS did it all.
    religious man, changed the whole tenet of the goodnews and goodwill to all men and you are part of the real problem and there are billions like you called ''christians''
    no no CALLED...……………. ''IANS''
    because Christ was never formed within them,

    and you are about as apostate as one can be,
    sigh
    a walking religious disaster bearing the fruits of the devil.
    people using whatever portrait of God they can find on the biblical smorgasbord of divine portraits to excuse whatever kind of violent and unloving attitude they have against people they hate or disagree with.
    The Bible has been used throughout history to excuse slavery, war, genocide, torture, vengeance, capital punishment, and the superiority complex of the “chosen”.
    The reality is that all of this can be found in the Bible.
    And yet, these things are the opposite of Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    for centuries the true gospel has been lost and some weird fake nonsense believed from a whole lot of corrupted preachers like yourself.
    JESUS did it all.
    religious man, changed the whole tenet of the goodnews and goodwill to all men and you are part of the real problem and there are billions like you called ''christians''
    no no CALLED...……………. ''IANS''
    because Christ was never formed within them,

    and you are about as apostate as one can be,
    sigh
    a walking religious disaster bearing the fruits of the devil.
    Lucy, you do bear the fruits of the devil, remember the thread I created of your character?

    You promote the devil's kingdom now, and call it Christ's kingdom, when Christ said that His Kingdom is not of this world.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    And Lucy,

    It's those like you that are the problem, ye teach people to kill, steal, and murder, which is breaking the commandments of Elohim and sin, and ye promote lawlessness to divine law.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    And Lucy,

    It's those like you that are the problem, ye teach people to kill, steal, and murder, which is breaking the commandments of Elohim and sin, and ye promote lawlessness to divine law.
    Lucy,

    Messiah when He returns His angels are going to remove the lawless like ye out of His Kingdom Matthew 13:30-43 He says so.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/13/41/s_942041
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Really

    So where does He put the lawless ones ?
    Considering the whole sheeebang was destroyed in 70ad and the new covenant people have His Sayings to keep them alive here
    John 8 V 51

    Maybe there is a big Jesus concentration camp
    hmmm
    now where would a Loving father put this camp?
    Elijah
    you are all into brutality and worship cruelty from Yhwh
    You tell us where this cruel camp would be
    Surprise us with your powerful mind and think powerful cruel thoughts of an eye for an eye act your G-d specialised in
    people using whatever portrait of God they can find on the biblical smorgasbord of divine portraits to excuse whatever kind of violent and unloving attitude they have against people they hate or disagree with.
    The Bible has been used throughout history to excuse slavery, war, genocide, torture, vengeance, capital punishment, and the superiority complex of the “chosen”.
    The reality is that all of this can be found in the Bible.
    And yet, these things are the opposite of Jesus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    So where does He put the lawless ones ?
    Considering the whole sheeebang was destroyed in 70ad and the new covenant people have His Sayings to keep them alive here
    John 8 V 51

    Maybe there is a big Jesus concentration camp
    hmmm
    now where would a Loving father put this camp?
    Elijah
    you are all into brutality and worship cruelty from Yhwh
    You tell us where this cruel camp would be
    Surprise us with your powerful mind and think powerful cruel thoughts of an eye for an eye act your G-d specialised in
    Lucy,

    ]So where does He put the lawless ones ?
    Where do the dead go, is it not in the ground? Ye ought to know since ye profit off the dead. And why do ye THINK that Messiah said:let the dead bury the dead.

    His Sayings to keep them alive here
    John 8 V 51
    And where does Messiah say that, He keeps them alive here as ye say?

    Messiah only promises that ye shall not be hurt of the SECOND DEATH Rev.2:21, and not the first death as the apostles did die the first death too.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    So where does He put the lawless ones ?
    Considering the whole sheeebang was destroyed in 70ad and the new covenant people have His Sayings to keep them alive here
    John 8 V 51


    Maybe there is a big Jesus concentration camp
    hmmm
    now where would a Loving father put this camp?
    Elijah
    you are all into brutality and worship cruelty from Yhwh
    You tell us where this cruel camp would be
    Surprise us with your powerful mind and think powerful cruel thoughts of an eye for an eye act your G-d specialised in
    Lucyfer,

    It's the devil and his demons that are alive and remain here now, and it's his now kingdom that ye are promoting, and your lawless jezzus is none other than the devil whom ye call your savior.

    His Sayings to keep them alive here
    John 8 V 51
    You also read into the texts of scriptures your own false words and ideas, and then falsely proclaim to others who read your own false words and ideas.

    Like this verse below of Messiah in Matthew 11:28, you FALSELY read in the word "Sabbath" into this text, and then tell others that Jesus is your seventh day Sabbath that replaces the 4th commandment.

    Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/sear...=s_primary_0_1
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Matthew 13:30-43.

    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    Lucy,

    Messiah when He returns His angels are going to remove the lawless like ye out of His Kingdom Matthew 13:30-43 He says so.

    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/13/41/s_942041
    And Lucy,

    It was NOT I that wrote this above, it was Matthew as Messiah said.

    The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

    As therefore the tares/wicked lawless are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

    The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity/lawlessness/unrighteousness;

    And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    Then shall the righteous/law keeping shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.

    Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/13/41/s_942041

    It's ONLY the righteous law keeping that will remain in His Kingdom, and NOT the lawless and unrighteous.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    where is the big lawless concentration camp of Jesus Elijah

    you should know as you are all into brutality worship
    ''lets destroy 'em '' is your 2nd name,


    .... come on Mr verse quoter
    …. get out your religious big guns and put '''fear into all them thar lawless ones''',...
    question
    where is the brutal regime with all its sadistic tortures for them thar lawless ones.
    put your powerful mind to work and give us all your poweful thoughts on powerful religious nonsense and powerful fear tactics as ''perfect love that casts out all fears'' reality doesn't live in you,.

    think Elijah
    with your foul mouth, and twisted mind and apostate whoring - you could be first in the door to the ''Jesus brutal and torture camp ''
    people using whatever portrait of God they can find on the biblical smorgasbord of divine portraits to excuse whatever kind of violent and unloving attitude they have against people they hate or disagree with.
    The Bible has been used throughout history to excuse slavery, war, genocide, torture, vengeance, capital punishment, and the superiority complex of the “chosen”.
    The reality is that all of this can be found in the Bible.
    And yet, these things are the opposite of Jesus.

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    Smile There isn't going to be one Lucyfer.

    Quote Originally Posted by LucySmith View Post
    you are all into brutality worship ''lets destroyem '' is your 2nd name,


    .... come on Mr verse quoter
    …. get out your religious big guns and put '''fear into all them thar lawless ones''',...

    where is the brutal regime with all its sadistic tortures for them thar lawless ones....
    Quote Originally Posted by Eliyah View Post
    And Lucy,

    It was NOT I that wrote this above, it was Matthew as Messiah said.

    The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

    As therefore the tares/wicked lawless are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.

    The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity/lawlessness/unrighteousness;

    And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.

    Then shall the righteous/law keeping shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father.

    Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.


    https://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/mat/13/41/s_942041

    It's ONLY the righteous law keeping that will remain in His Kingdom, and NOT the lawless and unrighteous.
    Is this not clear to ye Mrs death profiteer?
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    Lucy,

    Ye worship death, as ye make ye livelihood off the dead.
    A bit of revelation for ye.

    Messiah is the I AM He YAH of Scriptures, and He says so in John 8:58, and they would NOT believe Him either, will ye believe Him, and Messiah said to them- I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I AM HE/YAH, ye shall die in your sins. John 8:24; See also Exodus 3:13-15.

    Ye neither know me, nor my Father: if ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also. John 8:19.

    By His name YAH Psalms 68:4 N.K.J.V

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    no no Elijah

    you are all into THE BRUTAL GOD AND HIS ''LETS TORTURE THE LAWLESS ONES''
    SO WHERE IS JESUS CONCENTRATION CAMP FOR THEM THAR SINNERS.


    BTW
    YOU repeatedly SAID''' I DID NOT HAVE A FLORIST SHOP '''
    explain how I make the dead pay for something you repeatedly said I don't have?
    put your powerful mind to work to powerfully tell us all how the dead pay me for something you said I didn't have,
    inmates of a mental home have more sense.
    people using whatever portrait of God they can find on the biblical smorgasbord of divine portraits to excuse whatever kind of violent and unloving attitude they have against people they hate or disagree with.
    The Bible has been used throughout history to excuse slavery, war, genocide, torture, vengeance, capital punishment, and the superiority complex of the “chosen”.
    The reality is that all of this can be found in the Bible.
    And yet, these things are the opposite of Jesus.

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