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    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    At heart, I am a rebel. I do not like anyone telling me what to do, and for that reason, I do not like the making of law. If one makes a law, then one has to enforce that law. I would rather spend my time on other things than enforcing law; therefore, why make law?

    Law must be made and enforced to generate peace. Of course, those who make law can turn a blind eye towards those who break the law whenever they wish. Here is a good example! Guyguy made a post on page 29 on "The Righteousness Of Yah" thread in which he quoted my previous post and accused me of being partial in my application of law.

    Here is his/her post:

    http://lo-ammi.org/forum/showthread....ah/page29/#428

    I made no response to this post. I completely ignored your - his/her incomplete quote of my remarks. All those who are in charge of the Law can ignore for a time any transgression of law.

    When Guyguy chose to again misquote me, it has now become time for me to respond.

    Please, Guyguy, consider this your first and only warning arising from a second offense.

    In quoting me again you deliberately deleted from my original post this quote of EliYah:
    PS: Spying, I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else thinks of me.
    These words of EliYah were quoted from his post right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...s-Of-Yah&p=#10

    And those very words were found in my original post to you right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...Yah/page29#423

    Guyguy, you then misquoted my post to you again right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...Yah/page32#469

    So, it is permissible on this forum to quote each other, and we all the time quote from the posts of others not quoting the whole post, but it is not permissible to remove or change from a post the words of that post in either a partial or whole quote. It is also not permissible to fabricate a quote of yourself or of another member of this forum in order to make a statement or attempt to prove a point. I desire to see only totally honest quotes on this forum when a quote is made.

    If either you or EliYah do not understand my requirements concerning honestly quoting the words of members of this forum, then let me know, and I will give you more examples of your dishonest quoting.

    Thanking you both in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    At heart, I am a rebel. I do not like anyone telling me what to do, and for that reason, I do not like the making of law. If one makes a law, then one has to enforce that law. I would rather spend my time on other things than enforcing law; therefore, why make law?

    Law must be made and enforced to generate peace. Of course, those who make law can turn a blind eye towards those who break the law whenever they wish. Here is a good example! Guyguy made a post on page 29 on "The Righteousness Of Yah" thread in which he quoted my previous post and accused me of being partial in my application of law.

    Here is his/her post:

    http://lo-ammi.org/forum/showthread....ah/page29/#428

    I made no response to this post. I completely ignored your - his/her incomplete quote of my remarks. All those who are in charge of the Law can ignore for a time any transgression of law.

    When Guyguy chose to again misquote me, it has now become time for me to respond.

    Please, Guyguy, consider this your first and only warning arising from a second offense.

    In quoting me again you deliberately deleted from my original post this quote of EliYah:These words of EliYah were quoted from his post right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...s-Of-Yah&p=#10

    And those very words were found in my original post to you right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...Yah/page29#423

    Guyguy, you then misquoted my post to you again right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...Yah/page32#469

    So, it is permissible on this forum to quote each other, and we all the time quote from the posts of others not quoting the whole post, but it is not permissible to remove or change from a post the words of that post in either a partial or whole quote. It is also not permissible to fabricate a quote of yourself or of another member of this forum in order to make a statement or attempt to prove a point. I desire to see only totally honest quotes on this forum when a quote is made.

    If either you or EliYah do not understand my requirements concerning honestly quoting the words of members of this forum, then let me know, and I will give you more examples of your dishonest quoting.

    Thanking you both in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying, since we are talking about honest quotes, the reply with quote option on this forum will automatically leave out a quote within a quote, such as this quote of you above leaves out this quote of me-
    PS: Spying, I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else thinks of me.
    So Guyguy never left this quote of me out on purpose, it was left out automatically because of your forum's reply with quote option, so you will either have to fix your forum's reply with quote to include a quote within a quote, or everyone will have to copy and paste the quote to add it in a quoted post, or you will end up banning everyone including yourself because of your forum's glitch in this option.

    This below is the same post of yours above with my copy and pasted quote within your quote.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    At heart, I am a rebel. I do not like anyone telling me what to do, and for that reason, I do not like the making of law. If one makes a law, then one has to enforce that law. I would rather spend my time on other things than enforcing law; therefore, why make law?

    Law must be made and enforced to generate peace. Of course, those who make law can turn a blind eye towards those who break the law whenever they wish. Here is a good example! Guyguy made a post on page 29 on "The Righteousness Of Yah" thread in which he quoted my previous post and accused me of being partial in my application of law.

    Here is his/her post:

    http://lo-ammi.org/forum/showthread....ah/page29/#428

    I made no response to this post. I completely ignored your - his/her incomplete quote of my remarks. All those who are in charge of the Law can ignore for a time any transgression of law.

    When Guyguy chose to again misquote me, it has now become time for me to respond.

    Please, Guyguy, consider this your first and only warning arising from a second offense.

    In quoting me again you deliberately deleted from my original post this quote of EliYah:These words of EliYah were quoted from his post right here:

    E.C.: This is the copy and pasted quote:
    PS: Spying, I don't give a rats ass what you or anyone else thinks of me.
    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...s-Of-Yah&p=#10

    And those very words were found in my original post to you right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...Yah/page29#423

    Guyguy, you then misquoted my post to you again right here:

    http://www.lo-ammi.org/forum/showthr...Yah/page32#469

    So, it is permissible on this forum to quote each other, and we all the time quote from the posts of others not quoting the whole post, but it is not permissible to remove or change from a post the words of that post in either a partial or whole quote. It is also not permissible to fabricate a quote of yourself or of another member of this forum in order to make a statement or attempt to prove a point. I desire to see only totally honest quotes on this forum when a quote is made.

    If either you or EliYah do not understand my requirements concerning honestly quoting the words of members of this forum, then let me know, and I will give you more examples of your dishonest quoting.

    Thanking you both in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr

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    And Spying,

    Maybe you can show me your own post # number where you warned me: You are not allowed to make up quotes on this forum, BEFORE you banned me??

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    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Almost immediately after I started this thread, ImAHebrew called me from the Washington, D.C. area to inform me about the reply with quote issue that you have just brought up to me. Both you and ImAHebrew are correct about the manner in which the forum works, and I have been quite wrong in my accusation that Guyguy deliberately left out your remarks in his/her quote of my post. I have been very wrong in my accusation, and I do humbly ask Guyguy to forgive me for this sin against him/her.

    ImAHebrew suggested that I ask Hyssop to change the software with respect to "reply with quote". I spoke with Hyssop and that basically is not going to happen. What we have here at this forum is what we have.

    So, the issue remains that I require that quotes of the words of members on this forum be complete. Now that you are aware of the the problem with the forum software, I will hold you and Guyguy responsible for incomplete quotes. It is now your responsibility to comply with my law.

    Thanking you advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Almost immediately after I started this thread, ImAHebrew called me from the Washington, D.C. area to inform me about the reply with quote issue that you have just brought up to me. Both you and ImAHebrew are correct about the manner in which the forum works, and I have been quite wrong in my accusation that Guyguy deliberately left out your remarks in his/her quote of my post. I have been very wrong in my accusation, and I do humbly ask Guyguy to forgive me for this sin against him/her.

    ImAHebrew suggested that I ask Hyssop to change the software with respect to "reply with quote". I spoke with Hyssop and that basically is not going to happen. What we have here at this forum is what we have.

    So, the issue remains that I require that quotes of the words of members on this forum be complete. Now that you are aware of the the problem with the forum software, I will hold you and Guyguy responsible for incomplete quotes. It is now your responsibility to comply with my law.

    Thanking you advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying, I cannot speak for Guyguy, but I do forgive you, and your also guilty of incomplete quotes, and time will tell if you yourself will comply with your own law.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Almost immediately after I started this thread, ImAHebrew called me from the Washington, D.C. area to inform me about the reply with quote issue that you have just brought up to me. Both you and ImAHebrew are correct about the manner in which the forum works, and I have been quite wrong in my accusation that Guyguy deliberately left out your remarks in his/her quote of my post. I have been very wrong in my accusation, and I do humbly ask Guyguy to forgive me for this sin against him/her.

    ImAHebrew suggested that I ask Hyssop to change the software with respect to "reply with quote". I spoke with Hyssop and that basically is not going to happen. What we have here at this forum is what we have.

    So, the issue remains that I require that quotes of the words of members on this forum be complete. Now that you are aware of the the problem with the forum software, I will hold you and Guyguy responsible for incomplete quotes. It is now your responsibility to comply with my law.

    Thanking you advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying,

    I would suggest that you exclude the reply with quotes option, because it does leave out a quote within a quote, and no one not even you can help that, however, this is different from someone that flat out leaves out or makes up partial false quotes of another person, and sooner or later you or others may forget to copy and paste the added quotes, and this will absolutely exclude you as the administrator from making a mistake in doing the same.

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    Hi EliYah,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Your post above is actually a rather good post. The reason I was not away of the problem with a quote within a quote is that I do not often make use of that feature. When I quote someone, I generally cope and paste their words or sentences or paragraph within quotation marks and then I color code their words blue just as if their words were on the same level as New Testament Scripture. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in that regard.

    You know full well that it is not ordinarily my practice to quote the whole post of anyone in my replies to any poster. Each reply that I make to anyone is tailor made to that individual. I feel that I owe everyone who posts to me an original response should I make a response as I am able.

    Time restraints often prohibit me from making a response to all the questions that are asked of me.

    If I quote you or anyone else, please be aware that I strive to be accurate in duplicating the words of the poster that I am quoting. I myself will accept a partial quote. I do not expect that anyone should quote all the words of any post, but if you should quote me or someone else, I fully expect that your quote should be completely accurate concerning the word or sentence or paragraph or whole post which you do quote.

    Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi EliYah,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Your post above is actually a rather good post. The reason I was not away of the problem with a quote within a quote is that I do not often make use of that feature. When I quote someone, I generally cope and paste their words or sentences or paragraph within quotation marks and then I color code their words blue just as if their words were on the same level as New Testament Scripture. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in that regard.

    You know full well that it is not ordinarily my practice to quote the whole post of anyone in my replies to any poster. Each reply that I make to anyone is tailor made to that individual. I feel that I owe everyone who posts to me an original response should I make a response as I am able.

    Time restraints often prohibit me from making a response to all the questions that are asked of me.

    If I quote you or anyone else, please be aware that I strive to be accurate in duplicating the words of the poster that I am quoting. I myself will accept a partial quote. I do not expect that anyone should quote all the words of any post, but if you should quote me or someone else, I fully expect that your quote should be completely accurate concerning the word or sentence or paragraph or whole post which you do quote.

    Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying,

    I know that you do not if ever use the reply with quotes forum option, but others do, and what I was saying, since you, I or anyone else cannot help it that the forum's reply with quote option leaves out a quote within a quote, it would be best to allow for that option, and no one can blame you as the administrator for this, because it is a function of the forum itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi Guyguy and EliYah,

    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Almost immediately after I started this thread, ImAHebrew called me from the Washington, D.C. area to inform me about the reply with quote issue that you have just brought up to me. Both you and ImAHebrew are correct about the manner in which the forum works, and I have been quite wrong in my accusation that Guyguy deliberately left out your remarks in his/her quote of my post. I have been very wrong in my accusation, and I do humbly ask Guyguy to forgive me for this sin against him/her.

    ImAHebrew suggested that I ask Hyssop to change the software with respect to "reply with quote". I spoke with Hyssop and that basically is not going to happen. What we have here at this forum is what we have.

    So, the issue remains that I require that quotes of the words of members on this forum be complete. Now that you are aware of the the problem with the forum software, I will hold you and Guyguy responsible for incomplete quotes. It is now your responsibility to comply with my law.

    Thanking you advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Spying: I do forgive you; and thanks for admitting your error, because not many people would do so, and this proves your honesty too.

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    What's the difference?

    Spying: What is the difference between someone who fabricates/lies/bearing false witness a statement in a quote; than someone who fabricates/a lie in a none quote? There is no difference whether it is in a quote or not; it's still lying and bearing a false witness either way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spying View Post
    Hi EliYah,
    Blessings to you through Messiah Yahushua, My YAHWEH and My ELOHIM!

    Your post above is actually a rather good post. The reason I was not away of the problem with a quote within a quote is that I do not often make use of that feature. When I quote someone, I generally cope and paste their words or sentences or paragraph within quotation marks and then I color code their words blue just as if their words were on the same level as New Testament Scripture. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt in that regard.

    You know full well that it is not ordinarily my practice to quote the whole post of anyone in my replies to any poster. Each reply that I make to anyone is tailor made to that individual. I feel that I owe everyone who posts to me an original response should I make a response as I am able.

    Time restraints often prohibit me from making a response to all the questions that are asked of me.

    If I quote you or anyone else, please be aware that I strive to be accurate in duplicating the words of the poster that I am quoting. I myself will accept a partial quote. I do not expect that anyone should quote all the words of any post, but if you should quote me or someone else, I fully expect that your quote should be completely accurate concerning the word or sentence or paragraph or whole post which you do quote.

    Thanking you in advance should you be moved to reply, I am,
    Sincerely, Latuwr
    Then what was the sense in telling me quote" I myself will accept a partial quote. I do not expect that anyone should quote all the words of any post, but if you should quote me or someone else, I fully expect that your quote should be completely accurate concerning the word or sentence or paragraph or whole post which you do quote..

    So in other words, you will only accept your own words quoted of yourself, but no one else can partial quote you, even though you said, I do not expect that anyone should quote all the words of any post??

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    Spying: Your allowing others to defile this place; and only you can stop that from happening.

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